EULA Concerns

[TURTLE]

Privacy Data Collection Concerns
1. RAM Scanning — The game automatically scans areas of your device's RAM
while running, collecting details about installed software, full-size
screenshots, and connected DLL files. Even though they claim it's anonymized,
this is a deeper level of system monitoring than usual.

2. Data Sharing with Third Parties — The company reserves the right to send
collected data (including device information) to third-party partners. It's
unclear who these partners are or how they use the data.

3. Deleted Data Isn't Really Deleted — Even if you delete your account or
content, it may remain in caches, archives, search engine results, etc.

4. No Guarantee of Account Security — The company admits that no security
measures are perfect, meaning your personal data could be compromised
despite their efforts.

5. Automatic Updates Without User Control — Game updates can be installed
automatically when your device is connected to the internet, potentially
increasing system requirements or changing gameplay without notice.

6. No Refunds for Purchases — All game, asset, and currency purchases are
final—you can't get a refund, even if the game shuts down or your account is
banned.

7. Account Currency Deletion — The company can remove your in-game items
and currency if they decide to suspend your account—even if you paid for
them.

8. Strict Moderation Policies — The company doesn't have to provide proof
when banning or restricting accounts for violations.

9. Bans Can Apply to All Accounts — If you have multiple accounts, breaking the
rules on one account can lead to restrictions across all of them.

10. Legal Disputes Must Follow Their Rules — Users must first negotiate disputes
privately before taking legal action. If that fails, court cases must be handled
where the company is located, not where the user lives.

[Doko]

I like how this whole EULA scanning through each documents shindig wasn't a thing until 5 years ago, and now every game and their grandma is posting a concern thread.

Please, I urge any of you who are worried over the earth and the moon to just go visit your lawyers and have a nice long cuppa and talking over what they actually mean and do, instead of posting a concern thread here each and every time, without knowing what they actually mean and what actually happens.

If you've got a bite and a valid court case, congrats, take the studio to court, if not, outta here with the threads. I'm just so tired of these lil "uh guys, I read a big bad word in the EULA, we're so screwed!".

Again, talk to your lawyers if the concern was so high that you needed to make a thread, if not it'll amount to fear mongering (seriously, go now, go talk to your lawyers if you're so concerned, please go do it).

[Gray Matter Guerrilla]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Doko:

I like how this whole EULA scanning through each documents shindig wasn't a thing until 5 years ago, and now every game and their grandma is posting a concern thread.

Please, I urge any of you who are worried over the earth and the moon to just go visit your lawyers and have a nice long cuppa and talking over what they actually mean and do, instead of posting a concern thread here each and every time, without knowing what they actually mean and what actually happens.

If you've got a bite and a valid court case, congrats, take the studio to court, if not, outta here with the threads. I'm just so tired of these lil "uh guys, I read a big bad word in the EULA, we're so screwed!".

Again, talk to your lawyers if the concern was so high that you needed to make a thread, if not it'll amount to fear mongering (seriously, go now, go talk to your lawyers if you're so concerned, please go do it).

So since you know, can you please explain for everyone "what they actually mean and do"?

[Caileak]

This is the third or fourth thread about the exact same points. There once was a time when I did this, the whole forum yelled at me USE THE SEARCH!!! and closed my thread. No they slammed it shut. So hard that I still have nightmares today.

These moderators nowadays. So inclusive and tollerant. There, have a safty blanket to your concerns.

[Freya_Bjorn]

I genuinely don't care enough, nothing off this pc is important enough for me to worry about. Maybe don't do illegal stuff online or something?

[schicic]

They sell your data for sure, but I find number 2 funny. "It is unclear who these partners are, or what they use the data for"...but we'll sell it to them anyway! XD

[ドキドキ]

Everyone who is downplaying this has not understood the problem at all. Saying you don't care about privacy because you've got nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you've got nothing to say. I would go a step further and say that those people are the problem and the reason why the IT world has come to the state it is in.

If you are fine installing a game with a rootkit as "anti-cheat" you are an ignorant sheep. And if you're fine with a company charging you full-price for a game and collecting and selling your data on top, you are too.

I was genuinely excited for this game. And while I could block the game from calling home using a firewall / DNS hole, I will not support these business practices. No entertainment in the world is worth it to prostitute yourself. I guess I will see my fellow old school RTS guys on Beyond All Reason.

[Gray Matter Guerrilla]

[Cat]

We don't know for sure if they are actually gonna do all of these. They probably just write in the EULA in case they got into legal trouble or to prepare for unexpected emergency.

At least my company never follows the ridiculous stuffs they write in a EULA and only wrote them in case they got into unexpected trouble that is not their fault.