how is it a mmorpg

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when its not a mmorpg?

[Geothermal1159]

Lest's see... MMORPG stands for:
Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game.

Legends of Idleon has:

• multiplayer.
  
• multiple servers. specifically 16 servers each with 20 channels to change to (so 320 worlds to be in) with people in them all.
  
• you can see the other players within the same channel/server that you are in as well as interact with them via chat.
  
• you can role-play together or by yourself
  
• you can set up guilds with each other.

So it already has 2 of the most important aspects to be a MMORPG via having the ability to communicate to many other players within the world as well as role-play within the world together.
The game also has other things to help facilitate player interaction via guilds so I guess what my question to you is what were you hoping to see in the game?

[TSlice]

Except you and other players cannot actively partake in boss fights together, and you're basically in different dimensions of the same world. For instance, use 2 phones and put your characters next to one another. They will likely appear on opposite sides of the map. Or have one attack something, and on your screen they will be standing in place, doing nothing. It's not actively multiplayer in real time. It's like your avatar is in the game in its current location on the users device, and in the same area on everyone elses device, but does not reflect the current action of the player. Odd way of doing things. Perhaps that will change in time.

[Geothermal1159]

Originally posted by TSlice:

Except you and other players cannot actively partake in boss fights together, and you're basically in different dimensions of the same world. For instance, use 2 phones and put your characters next to one another. They will likely appear on opposite sides of the map. Or have one attack something, and on your screen they will be standing in place, doing nothing. It's not actively multiplayer in real time. It's like your avatar is in the game in its current location on the users device, and in the same area on everyone elses device, but does not reflect the current action of the player. Odd way of doing things. Perhaps that will change in time.

What would you classify a game that has players able to see & talk to each other, join in guilds to gather points that allow the guild to gain skills/gifts that benefit them all?

Also you can see each other in real-time except for when they are in combat.
Try it out in the same set-up you suggested with 2 phones & just walk around each other without attacking things.

You should also remember this game is made by 1 guy as well & is still being improved.

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Well currently the game is closer than a chat with avatar than a mmorpg.
What people are obviously saying is that, the use of the mmorpg word isn't fair as their is no multiplayers actions available now (read "much", I mean dood and guild are all asynchronous multi anyways....)
namely : no pvp (there is a coloseum and mini-game leaderboard tho), no multiplayer combat, no trade, no real world persistence (killing all the mob or collecting all the ore won't have any impact on other peoples game).

All of this could be added later or w/e, what I do think is important tho, is the fact that to prevent hackers and others cheat to ruin the fun of other player, the multiplayer features will never lead to bragging right (guild gp being a good example as being strong do not matter much in collecting them after a bit of time) which will either limit the game or offer pleasant and inovatives gameplay.

That being said I think lava said he will add more "different" mmo mechanics. The game is also great if you see it as a solo idle with a big community.

But yeah a note on the steam page to explain what it is about and the vision of the dev towards multiplayer interactions may help to avoid some comment bombs at the release.

[Zazzypantz]

Originally posted by Paul1159:

What would you classify a game that has players able to see & talk to each other, join in guilds to gather points that allow the guild to gain skills/gifts that benefit them all?

A Discord server, more or less. It has all of those features as well (you can see and hear each other in multiple formats and boost collective server perks with Nitro).

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

The game is only 'mmo' so Larva can troll and kill us in real time.

[bunies]

Originally posted by Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s:

The game is only 'mmo' so Larva can troll and kill us in real time.

well dont forget the dungeons, which are basically herding cats simulator

[alkybird]

Originally posted by Paul1159:

Originally posted by TSlice:

You should also remember this game is made by 1 guy as well & is still being improved.

True, but those that play (esp those that pay) should not feel they should have to stifle feedback to keep feelers intact. Yep, solo person project...by choice. If you add a pay element, expect criticism and to be ignored if you say "hey it's only me" when there are THOUSANDS of programmers out of work. Trade in-game rewards with them for dev help, or must Lava be in complete control? All that is a long way to say that Lava put the game into the public eye and called it what he did. Nobody else forced him to.

Now lastly, a solo developer should also recognize the pitfall of adding more content before the rest was finished...keyword "should"

[Geothermal1159]

Originally posted by alkybird:

True, but those that play (esp those that pay) should not feel they should have to stifle feedback to keep feelers intact. Yep, solo person project...by choice. If you add a pay element, expect criticism and to be ignored if you say "hey it's only me" when there are THOUSANDS of programmers out of work. Trade in-game rewards with them for dev help, or must Lava be in complete control? All that is a long way to say that Lava put the game into the public eye and called it what he did. Nobody else forced him to.

Now lastly, a solo developer should also recognize the pitfall of adding more content before the rest was finished...keyword "should"

3 things....

First you are responding to a comment made 2 years ago...

Second I never said that no one can provide feedback & even said that the game is in constant development.
The only feelers that seem to be hurt are yours by a comment that is again 2 years old that apparently made you feel so bad you just had to necro it.
Also I haven't been following development recently due to real life problems that have sprung up so, I am unsure why you chose a 2 year old comment as your starting point.

Third why & how did you mess up quoting a 2 year old comment?

[bunies]

Originally posted by Paul1159:

Originally posted by alkybird:

True, but those that play (esp those that pay) should not feel they should have to stifle feedback to keep feelers intact. Yep, solo person project...by choice. If you add a pay element, expect criticism and to be ignored if you say "hey it's only me" when there are THOUSANDS of programmers out of work. Trade in-game rewards with them for dev help, or must Lava be in complete control? All that is a long way to say that Lava put the game into the public eye and called it what he did. Nobody else forced him to.

Now lastly, a solo developer should also recognize the pitfall of adding more content before the rest was finished...keyword "should"

3 things....

First you are responding to a comment made 2 years ago...

Second I never said that no one can provide feedback & even said that the game is in constant development.
The only feelers that seem to be hurt are yours by a comment that is again 2 years old that apparently made you feel so bad you just had to necro it.
Also I haven't been following development recently due to real life problems that have sprung up so, I am unsure why you chose a 2 year old comment as your starting point.

Third why & how did you mess up quoting a 2 year old comment?

that isnt the person who did the necro, and they just did not check the dates on the comments

[Geothermal1159]

Originally posted by bunies:

Originally posted by Paul1159:

3 things....

First you are responding to a comment made 2 years ago...

Second I never said that no one can provide feedback & even said that the game is in constant development.
The only feelers that seem to be hurt are yours by a comment that is again 2 years old that apparently made you feel so bad you just had to necro it.
Also I haven't been following development recently due to real life problems that have sprung up so, I am unsure why you chose a 2 year old comment as your starting point.

Third why & how did you mess up quoting a 2 year old comment?

that isnt the person who did the necro, and they just did not check the dates on the comments

Looking at it I see they are one 1 of a few necroing this thread with this guy being 1 of the 2 directly quoting one of my 2 year old comments.

So I still stand by what I said about how they could possibly screw up not just trying to quote a 2 year old comment but, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up somehow in some mind boggling fashion.

I will amend that they are not the first 1 to necro this thread however.

[Zazzypantz]

"Necro" or not (mostly not in a meaningful sense; below):

1) This thread appears near the top of select Google SERPs (specifically, #5 for "idleon is not a mmorpg")

2) The same broader dynamics that applied when this thread was created with regard to the game advertising itself as an MMORPG but not offering key features of the genre (trading even among one's own characters, player-driven economy, real-time observance of others' actual actions, universal relative scarcity, etc) still apply in early 2023, so like it or not, the thread is still as relevant today as it was 2 years ago.