Armor showing? biggest turn off rn.

[Shark Noises]

I think the biggest turn off for me is i cant really see the armor or clothes i make for a character its just hats hopefully it gets fixed in future

[ariba]

Totally agree.

[Blackwolfe]

The problem is that it's just a single dev and there would have to be animations added for every single action for every single armor. Simply not viable.

[LavaFlame2]

Hear me out:

There are 146 unique frames for the player. Because of how armor moves with your arms/legs, I would need to draw 146 frames for EACH armor set.

There are something like 200 pieces of armor -- shirt, pants, and shoes.

That would be 29,000 unique frames just for armor to show up, which is 4x more images than their already are in the entire MMO.

Q: But you show the helmet, can't you just do what you did for that, but for the armor?
A: Since your head doesn't move, I only had to draw 2 frames for each helmet -- 1 for climbing up a rope, and 1 for everything else. Since mining/chopping/catchingfishing/running/fighting with a sword/bow/wand/dying all involve different movement of arms (shirt) and legs (pants/shoes), you can see why that would just be impossible.

Is there a smart way to do this? Maybe, and maybe I'll figure it out, and do it :D
But until then, I cannot :[

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by LavaFlame2:

Hear me out:

There are 146 unique frames for the player. Because of how armor moves with your arms/legs, I would need to draw 146 frames for EACH armor set.

There are something like 200 pieces of armor -- shirt, pants, and shoes.

That would be 29,000 unique frames just for armor to show up, which is 4x more images than their already are in the entire MMO.

Q: But you show the helmet, can't you just do what you did for that, but for the armor?
A: Since your head doesn't move, I only had to draw 2 frames for each helmet -- 1 for climbing up a rope, and 1 for everything else. Since mining/chopping/catchingfishing/running/fighting with a sword/bow/wand/dying all involve different movement of arms (shirt) and legs (pants/shoes), you can see why that would just be impossible.

Is there a smart way to do this? Maybe, and maybe I'll figure it out, and do it :D
But until then, I cannot :[ [/quote]

Understandable but the main pic showing clothes really is misleading. I mean its just plain false advertising and made me waste my time trying to play this game when i am stuck being naked the whole time. If your not going to have clothing be visible in the game, don't advertise with cool clothed characters we can never be.

Another waste of my time.

[Silvan]

Are you serious ?? You guys won't play F2P IDLE I D L E game because armors are not visible?? Ohhh man XD Such shallow and trivial statement ... made my day XD

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Silvan:

Are you serious ?? You guys won't play F2P IDLE I D L E game because armors are not visible?? Ohhh man XD Such shallow and trivial statement ... made my day XD

Whats shallow about not wanting to play a game where you can't even look cool? I think your mistaking shallow and trivial with simply being something you personally do not care about.

Part of games like this is making your characters look cool. Most of gameplay for a lot of people is revolved around being awesome looking. Hats just ain't enough.

I mean you say idle as if that changes anything. Thats entirely a gameplay factor and has nothing to do with cosmetic functions. I simply don't want to play a game looking at a naked blob.

[Zirenaz]

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by Silvan:

Are you serious ?? You guys won't play F2P IDLE I D L E game because armors are not visible?? Ohhh man XD Such shallow and trivial statement ... made my day XD

Whats shallow about not wanting to play a game where you can't even look cool? I think your mistaking shallow and trivial with simply being something you personally do not care about.

Part of games like this is making your characters look cool. Most of gameplay for a lot of people is revolved around being awesome looking. Hats just ain't enough.

I mean you say idle as if that changes anything. Thats entirely a gameplay factor and has nothing to do with cosmetic functions. I simply don't want to play a game looking at a naked blob.

Sounds like you have mistaken this game for a dress-up game.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Zirenaz:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Whats shallow about not wanting to play a game where you can't even look cool? I think your mistaking shallow and trivial with simply being something you personally do not care about.

Part of games like this is making your characters look cool. Most of gameplay for a lot of people is revolved around being awesome looking. Hats just ain't enough.

I mean you say idle as if that changes anything. Thats entirely a gameplay factor and has nothing to do with cosmetic functions. I simply don't want to play a game looking at a naked blob.

Sounds like you have mistaken this game for a dress-up game.

Bro, you realize how silly you sound right? I mean the hats exist for a reason.

[DistantFluxSA]

> There are 146 unique frames for the player. Because of how armor moves with your arms/legs, I would need to draw 146 frames for EACH armor set.

In isolation, that sounds like a fun automation problem. :) Plug in the base image, and have a program generate the needed frames.

I'm fine with it as it is, though! Increases in gameplay content are far more interesting to me. :)

[Silvan]

Originally posted by Zirenaz:

Sounds like you have mistaken this game for a dress-up game.

That's my point ...

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Originally posted by Zirenaz:

Sounds like you have mistaken this game for a dress-up game.

Bro, you realize how silly you sound right? I mean the hats exist for a reason.

Bruuuuhh..... In your previous posts you literally wrote that you are not wasting more time on F2P game where silly cosmetics are not visible on character ... cosmetics are indeed trivial addition to most games. Looks like u r THAT kind of person pumping own ego with cosmetics in games >_>
If I could suggest something ... go play CS GO and pimp ur gun haha well this game became skin-fest so should be good for you.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Silvan:

Originally posted by Zirenaz:

Sounds like you have mistaken this game for a dress-up game.

That's my point ...

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Bro, you realize how silly you sound right? I mean the hats exist for a reason.

Bruuuuhh..... In your previous posts you literally wrote that you are not wasting more time on F2P game where silly cosmetics are not visible on character ... cosmetics are indeed trivial addition to most games. Looks like u r THAT kind of person pumping own ego with cosmetics in games >_>
If I could suggest something ... go play CS GO and pimp ur gun haha well this game became skin-fest so should be good for you.

Trivial to YOU. We ain't talking about meaningless colors and stuff, we are talking about personalization of your characters. Are you seriously sitting here trying to say that the character design in a game doesn't matter? Thats what this is about. Its about how misleading the pics for the game are as they imply stickmen with customizeable clothing but in the actual game its just hats and weapons. Thats why this was a waste of my time.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Hydroculator:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

I mean you say idle as if that changes anything. Thats entirely a gameplay factor and has nothing to do with cosmetic functions. I simply don't want to play a game looking at a naked blob.

Shallow and trivial.

You quoted the wrong part if you wanted to reply like that. Also just repeating it doesn't mean anything but that you are unwilling to engage and just want to state your shallow and trivial point as fact.

[Hans]

Maybe adding multiple skin patterns similar to what the barbarian has and letting people pick from multiple colors would add variety while not taxing LavaFlame2 with creating tons of additional assets.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Arngrim:

Maybe adding multiple skin patterns similar to what the barbarian has and letting people pick from multiple colors would add variety while not taxing LavaFlame2 with creating tons of additional assets.

Agreed. This would be enough to satisfy me atleast. It would still be a lot of work but definitely a lot less than the clothing option.

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by Hydroculator:

Originally posted by Merilirem:

Trivial to YOU. We ain't talking about meaningless colors and stuff, we are talking about personalization of your characters. Are you seriously sitting here trying to say that the character design in a game doesn't matter? Thats what this is about. Its about how misleading the pics for the game are as they imply stickmen with customizeable clothing but in the actual game its just hats and weapons. Thats why this was a waste of my time.

I'll bet you think Half-Life was a bad game because you didn't get to put stickers on your hazmat suit. You probably thought the Portal series was terrible because you didn't get to pick out little flowery patterns for your jumpsuit.
Were all the classic video games bad because you couldn't pick out little hats for your character to wear?
Being obsessed with what *clothes* your little character is *wearing* to the point where you think a game is a waste of your time if you can't play dress up *is* absolutely *shallow and trivial.*

Also, learn how to spell.

See now your just throwing out nonsense. You know what i thought of those games? I thought nothing because they didn't even meet the basic criteria for me to enjoy them. I honestly have no idea about character stuff in those two games because they were just not what i like to begin with. I never said this was a bad game, i said this part of it was falsely advertised and that i wasted my time because of that.

Listen, its not about playing dress up. Its about the total experience. My complaint here is the same as when you go to play one of those mobile gacha games and see "active skills" which effectively mean its not at all what it promised to be.

I saw this game and it had a picture of clothed characters. I went in and everyone was naked. You may not think looks or character design matters but for me thats a deal breaker. With fancy outfits the stick figures look good but with only hats they just don't appeal to me.

Calling my preferences shallow and trivial just makes no sense because we are here to enjoy ourselves playing a game. Part of that game is making a character. Character design matters and anyone who thinks it doesn't should never make a game. Thats directed at you btw not at the dev of this game.