Feeling a bit stuck at Pyramid

[Aura]

I've unlocked the pyramid and a few floors. Farming for materials seems to take a very long time for me right now as I don't have many of the ancient shop upgrades. To get those I would need a high amount of ancient leaves, but I can only get around 2k at my current floor (-11). It wouldn't be so bad if I could just AFK farm these over a few days, but the pyramid taxi costs 25k blorbs per run. I had about a million blorbs saved up just from doing trades, but now I've run out and I'm not sure how to amass more.

What should I do? Am I missing something important? Is there a source of high amount of blorbs outside of trading?

I really don't like manually entering the inner pyramid after every run haha, maybe I'm just lazy :)

[BreadButterLight]

No. The best way to get borbs is by trading. To get more borbs per trade you need some moonstone or ancient leaves with Trade Global Multiplier.

To get moonstone/ancient leaves from crafting you need to have the craft forge in the MLC shop 5/5. Then start crafting and you will have moonstone leaves.

If you want ancient leaves very fast just turn on auto salvage, make it salvage sand leaves and below (also make sure to lock any moonstone or sand leaves you may be using), and turn on auto crafting. Wait 5 minutes and you will have a lot of ancient leaves.

Hope those leaves have TGM on them, upgrade them, maybe ascend them a few times, and watch as you get billions of borbs.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by yoelkompithra:

To get moonstone/ancient leaves from crafting you need to have the craft forge in the MLC shop 5/5. Then start crafting and you will have moonstone leaves.

For crafted moonstone leaves craft forge 4/5 (mlc shop) is enough.

5/5 is obviously better, because that unlocks sand and ancient leaves as well, but moonstone leaves aren't a bad start either.

[linnoff]

getting crafted leaves with +additional ancient leaves will also help a lot. Once you have crafted ancient leaves leveled up with additional ancient leaves bonus on them, it will be almost irrelevant what floor of pyramid you farm at as the bonus so heavily outweighs the amount from the floor itself.

[Aura]

Thanks for the tips everyone, I know what to do now!

[BreadButterLight]

I love how this game becomes Leaf Blower Revolution then Trade Blower Revolution then Damage Grinding Revolution then Crafting God Revolution then Material Gatherer Revolution then Alchemy Master Revolution then Damage Grinding Revolution 2: Electric Boogaloo Featuring the ability to slap a tree with a fish.

[Blackwolfe]

Feels kind of awful now that we can't auto-crunch automate the pyramid..

I've been stuck at floor 21 for ages. Reason being that I partially relied on beer and cheese drops from chests.

The issue isn't really the ancient leaves or the mulch. The issue is more the cheese and the beer. I get such small amount of materials that doing tavern quests for 2.5k cheese/250 beer takes ages.

Also trying to complete the +1 pet challenge, which will put me at 5 pets.

Edit: ok, realized I've been draining my cheese in alchemy.. was trying to upgrade some pets and equipment.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by Blackwolfe:

Feels kind of awful now that we can't auto-crunch automate the pyramid..

I've been stuck at floor 21 for ages. Reason being that I partially relied on beer and cheese drops from chests.

The issue isn't really the ancient leaves or the mulch. The issue is more the cheese and the beer. I get such small amount of materials that doing tavern quests for 2.5k cheese/250 beer takes ages.

Also trying to complete the +1 pet challenge, which will put me at 5 pets.

Edit: ok, realized I've been draining my cheese in alchemy.. was trying to upgrade some pets and equipment.

The universal answer to beer, cheese and borbs (for the pyramid taxi) is the same: trading with +global trading multiplier (beer needs trade level 17+ as well).

The pyramid floor you farm is pretty irrelevant, after floor 15 all drop the same kinds of chests, and the ancient leave rewards are pitiful at best. Ancient leaves only become abundant after you got your first crafted ancient leave with "additional ancient leaves".

Yes, that means you should focus on trading and crafting more.
Unlocking more pyramid floors won't be of much use to you, for a while.

[Blackwolfe]

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

Originally posted by Blackwolfe:

Feels kind of awful now that we can't auto-crunch automate the pyramid..

I've been stuck at floor 21 for ages. Reason being that I partially relied on beer and cheese drops from chests.

The issue isn't really the ancient leaves or the mulch. The issue is more the cheese and the beer. I get such small amount of materials that doing tavern quests for 2.5k cheese/250 beer takes ages.

Also trying to complete the +1 pet challenge, which will put me at 5 pets.

Edit: ok, realized I've been draining my cheese in alchemy.. was trying to upgrade some pets and equipment.

The universal answer to beer, cheese and borbs (for the pyramid taxi) is the same: trading with +global trading multiplier (beer needs trade level 17+ as well).

The pyramid floor you farm is pretty irrelevant, after floor 15 all drop the same kinds of chests, and the ancient leave rewards are pitiful at best. Ancient leaves only become abundant after you got your first crafted ancient leave with "additional ancient leaves".

Yes, that means you should focus on trading and crafting more.
Unlocking more pyramid floors won't be of much use to you, for a while.

I'll see about the trade level. Thanks. Got 2-3 leaves with additional ancient leaves. So, trade level 17+ starts giving more beer per trade (atm it's just like 1 beer, 2 if lucky, lol)

Atm what I usually trade for are mulch, borbs and gems.

[Silberfuchs]

Yeah, beer trades get much better with a higher global trade multiplier, but unlike cheese and mulch trades they only really start at trade 17+.

Another thing that really helps:
The Bingo challenge, because the reward for it gets multiplied with everything else that helps in trading (aka the reward is really good). The current community favourite is seed "12466", because you can finish the challenge pretty fast (unlocking mythical garden and cheese pub isn't hard).

[Blackwolfe]

That being said.. I don't think my +additional ancient leaves bonuses even work. I got one with +429k but.. I keep only getting like 8k.

Already completed the bingo one once.

i suppose I should also focus on upgrading my leaves more for more trade multiplier.

So..

1. Get trade multipliers and trade levels up. (from crafted leaves and other sources)
2. Keep trading for borbs, gems and mulch.
3. Run ancient pyramid whenever possible.
4. Keep doing quests for beer and cheese.

[Silberfuchs]

I forgot to mention: +additional ancient leaves only provides 1% of what it claims to provide (yours provides +4290 ancient leaves per floor), aka your leave works as intended. And yes, that's weird, but it is what it is. ^^

Now imagine having a high % ancient leaf, with shards on it's +additional ancient leaves property, maybe even more than one such crafted leaf. ;)

[Blackwolfe]

..yeah..shards.. that's gonna take a while. I'm gonna need a much bigger income of mats if I am sensibly gonna be able to make shards :P 5 dark essences to unlock was painful enough.

[Silberfuchs]

That "much higher income" comes with farming the witch. ;)

[Core]

Originally posted by Blackwolfe:

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

The universal answer to beer, cheese and borbs (for the pyramid taxi) is the same: trading with +global trading multiplier (beer needs trade level 17+ as well).

The pyramid floor you farm is pretty irrelevant, after floor 15 all drop the same kinds of chests, and the ancient leave rewards are pitiful at best. Ancient leaves only become abundant after you got your first crafted ancient leave with "additional ancient leaves".

Yes, that means you should focus on trading and crafting more.
Unlocking more pyramid floors won't be of much use to you, for a while.

I'll see about the trade level. Thanks. Got 2-3 leaves with additional ancient leaves. So, trade level 17+ starts giving more beer per trade (atm it's just like 1 beer, 2 if lucky, lol)

Atm what I usually trade for are mulch, borbs and gems.

That last line "what i usually trade". The last update a few weeks ago changed the game. What you trade, is everything using the bear pet from the gem store. Get it, no matter what. I would argue that is now the single most important pet in the entire game.

Trading is important, this pet automates trading.

There are mulch discounts, and maybe others that will reduce the amount of required materials. Upgrade bearo and he fires off like every 30 seconds or something crazy like that. He will buy everything that can be bought, and also collect any trade that's done.

I have now completed 43.900 trades. I didn't do that by hand.

Be sure to get Owlo up to level 10 to reduce trade completion to 1 minute. Any other trade skills you can up anywhere also help.

- As you roll in cheese, craft more. Don't settle for crappy rolls on ancient leaves. Just leave it auto crafting, once full, cull anything lower than 90%.. 95% if you're more patient.
- With 8 slots, i found trying for 3 with + additional ancient leaves, then shard'ing those was plenty. I'm almost done farming.
- The remainder of the ancient leaves only took a few rolls to get + global trade. Add a specific shard. Spam the remainder.
- Remember all that cheese? Max Level and Max Evolve your ancient leaves.

My current trade global is 8.67 million %. Sitting on 10 million beer and 1 billion cheese, 1 trillion mulch. Used all these yesterday.

[Daunmi]

Originally posted by Core:

There are mulch discounts, and maybe others that will reduce the amount of required materials.

Bearo also reduces trade input resources.

Originally posted by Core:

Be sure to get Owlo up to level 10 to reduce trade completion to 1 minute. Any other trade skills you can up anywhere also help.

*Penguino

Owlo is for merge leaves.