Big Leaf Crunch

[PXL]

If I delay using Big Leaf Crunch - will I earn more BLC's ?
I know if I use it right now I get 1 BLC .... but that's measly !!

[Tenzek]

It's never worth delaying the run for BLC. You always earn the highest ratio per time when you crunch within the first couple of minutes of being able to. When you really get rolling, the whole run from crunch to crunch will take you less than 90 seconds.

Take the 1 BLC, invest it in something that will help you get back to crunch fast again, crunch a couple more times for the BLC upgrade so that you start getting more per crunch. Just hit BLC and crunch as fast as possible.

[piros_slate]

I clearly delayed awhile... I did my first leaf crunch around 120 coins... my 2nd around 1200 coins... then I made it to flasks and played slow/idle... reached strange flasks and exotic leaves... if I leaf crunched now, I'd make 2 million coins... if I big leaf crunched, thanks to the 300% multipliers and exotic leaf base increases, I'd make 2400 black coins...

Been playing about 5 hrs

[PXL]

Piros, are you talking about prestige or BLC ?

[PXL]

Ahhhhhh found it - of course - I need to use flasks to buy BLC research/upgrades!!

I completely missed that while grinding the flasks I forgot those perks were there!

[piros_slate]

Yea... all flasks have super expensive BLC multipliers... e8 for 50% gains... Strange Flask, the final flask, also has a much cheaper 300% multipler, that really gets the ball rolling... and the next leaf... e5 strange flask gets you the leaf, but e6 gets you the zone teleport you need... if you make it that far, Exotic Leaves have another 50% multipler, but also a +100 base increase... THOSE are what finally get the BLC ball rolling

[Hiroko]

I currently get about 10% more blc if I put in some prep work. Which equates to about the amount i would earn from 2 fast blc runs. So even then, minimal investment for prep time. Problem is that the upgrades to blc are mostly additive and have huge declining returns while costs continue skyrocketing. Its generally just best to spam blc's.

edit* meant to say during long runs, aka overnight. As opposed to doing the run with no prep time. Although fast runs (5min or less) are considerably more per-hour if I spam it fast with at max 1 prestige almost immediately into the run (mostly because printers and converters make up the lost time).

[Wunder]

Don't ever take 1 BLC. it's not expensive, nor does it take long to buy a few levels of 300% BLC upgrades from strange flasks.

[Tenzek]

Did things change from when the game was new? When I was there, it was faster to reset than to wait. If you boost your leaf gains with that first coin, you should be back to get another crunch in short order.

[UnholyAlmond]

If I crunched as soon as I could I'd only be getting a few thousand blc everytime, but most of my BLC upgrades cost millions. Plus doing blc really fast leaves me with very few coins making it feel like it takes even longer to get back to crunch.

I've usually tried to prestige a bit and then let BLC build up some before crunching. Sounds like I might be missing something if crunching sooner is better.

[Luminous]

You can speed crunch if you have a good amount crunchy coins and upgrade bots buying the right things. For instance I can get 20m coins every 33 secs (with late game upgrades), but if I forget to crunch and wait a couple more minutes it only gives 60m.

[PXL]

First time I crunched - I got 1 BLC - it was so incredibly painful - I didn't understand how to get more. second time I got 10. Third time I got over 14,000

[Wunder]

The first time you crunch, you should at least get 3 extra coins (4 total) from the first 300% BLC upgrade via strange flasks. It takes somewhere around 9k flasks and that's VERY easy to get for your first BLC. It cost me a few extra minutes of waiting and getting back to BLC was SUBSTANTIALLY faster than if I had done 1 coin. Do NOT ever take 1 coin BLC's. Period. That being said, It's obviously better to do BLC's quickly if you're looking for fast gains. Especially early on in the game.