The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos

The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos

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BrusLee Jan 15, 2022 @ 11:38am
Any mage "guide"?
Howdy,
I just want to ask few questions about magic here.
I have read quite a bit on it already but still missing some points.
Might be bad at searching here...

1. I read about some rebalancing for mages.
What will that do?
When?
Will there be added some proper mage armor usable? ^.^
2. Is there some guide written already? I mean.. "Proper" with some explanations, where to grab books in early stages, or in which chapter you are able to progress.
3. Where are the books at start? (It is in point 2 but.. it is major question for me :D)

Thanks for any info.
If you know about any guides or finished discussions about same topic, that I have missed.. link them please :-)
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Smartik1 Jan 15, 2022 @ 11:45am 
Best |'ve got is what the Polish guys put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oh-2iMpMXG_optpVL1oAZ6_m8in2xMAGoLLhZQYHntU/edit#gid=126759505
Book and rune locations are there, so are teleport runes and everything else. Just paste it in google translate.

1. We know a rebalance patch is the next one coming, it sounded like soon but they didn't say when or what exactly it will do. You can check the official discord (link on the Store page).
2. Above.
3. Riordian's quest in Silbach will give you Circle 1 Book 1. The 2nd book for Circle 1 is on a corpse next to a broken cart on the way to the woodcutters camp.

The only gating you need to be worried about is 1 of the books for the 3rd circle which is gated all the way till Chapter 4 because the Wolf's Den gate is closed till then. You can unofficially climb over the wall on the right side to get in anyway from Chapter 1.

Mana regen trinkets are gated till the very end of Chapter 3 because the merchant is in Old Town. You will buy the ring + amulet from the merchant there and the last ring is in the sewer bandit camp on a corpse.

Geyser will be your 3rd circle bread and butter. You can loot it from a corpse in front of the south swamp temple.
Last edited by Smartik1; Jan 15, 2022 @ 11:48am
N.Nihilovicz Jan 15, 2022 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Smartik1:
Best |'ve got is what the Polish guys put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oh-2iMpMXG_optpVL1oAZ6_m8in2xMAGoLLhZQYHntU/edit#gid=126759505
Hm, it says vol. 4 circle IV is on a water mage body in the city sewers. Though I have cleaned it completely and haven't seen any. There are some areas which require a key to access.
Is the book in some plot-gated area there?

Originally posted by Smartik1:
Mana regen trinkets are gated till the very end of Chapter 3 because the merchant is in Old Town. You will buy the ring + amulet from the merchant there and the last ring is in the sewer bandit camp on a corpse.
Who's the merchant?
Smartik1 Jan 15, 2022 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by N.Nihilovicz:
Originally posted by Smartik1:
Best |'ve got is what the Polish guys put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oh-2iMpMXG_optpVL1oAZ6_m8in2xMAGoLLhZQYHntU/edit#gid=126759505
Hm, it says vol. 4 circle IV is on a water mage body in the city sewers. Though I have cleaned it completely and haven't seen any. There are some areas which require a key to access.
Is the book in some plot-gated area there?

Originally posted by Smartik1:
Mana regen trinkets are gated till the very end of Chapter 3 because the merchant is in Old Town. You will buy the ring + amulet from the merchant there and the last ring is in the sewer bandit camp on a corpse.
Who's the merchant?
The easiest way to get to the sewers bandit room is by using the Araxos entrance and keep going in the direction straight away from the entrance. Imagine a path shaped like a mirrored number 5. You should fight a worm, lizardman, make a sharp turn to an aligator and right past him another sharp turn to the bandits. Their room is lit up, you should see it and it isn't that far from the entrance.

The Old Town accessory merchant sells all kinds of accessories, including the mana regen ones. The shop is marked. It is close to one of the Old Town entrances.
Last edited by Smartik1; Jan 15, 2022 @ 2:49pm
N.Nihilovicz Jan 15, 2022 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Smartik1:
The easiest way to get to the sewers bandit room is by using the Araxos entrance and keep going in the direction straight away from the entrance. Imagine a path shaped like a mirrored number 5. You should fight a worm, lizardman, make a sharp turn to an aligator and right past him another sharp turn to the bandits. Their room is lit up, you should see it and it isn't that far from the entrance.

The Old Town accessory merchant sells all kinds of accessories, including the mana regen ones. The shop is marked. It is close to one of the Old Town entrances.
Thanks for the hint!
BrusLee Jan 15, 2022 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by Smartik1:
Best |'ve got is what the Polish guys put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oh-2iMpMXG_optpVL1oAZ6_m8in2xMAGoLLhZQYHntU/edit#gid=126759505
Hm Steam itself blocked me from using that link as it was ranked dangerous/malicious :D That sounds.. erm weird :D
But yeah I opened it up, made a "copy" and slowly translating it via Google translator as google can not translate it as a whole page.
Looks like really great guide.. a bit sad it is not in english but well :-)

Also.. I have checked official discord, and steam.. and there is just info about 1.1.3 with 1.2 mentioned.. but I can not find any details about that 1.2.. what kind of balancing it will provide. Did you find anything like that, or are we on same "page"?
Last edited by BrusLee; Jan 15, 2022 @ 11:36pm
Smartik1 Jan 16, 2022 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by BrusLee:
Originally posted by Smartik1:
Best |'ve got is what the Polish guys put together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oh-2iMpMXG_optpVL1oAZ6_m8in2xMAGoLLhZQYHntU/edit#gid=126759505
Hm Steam itself blocked me from using that link as it was ranked dangerous/malicious :D That sounds.. erm weird :D
But yeah I opened it up, made a "copy" and slowly translating it via Google translator as google can not translate it as a whole page.
Looks like really great guide.. a bit sad it is not in english but well :-)

Also.. I have checked official discord, and steam.. and there is just info about 1.1.3 with 1.2 mentioned.. but I can not find any details about that 1.2.. what kind of balancing it will provide. Did you find anything like that, or are we on same "page"?
The link is just google docs, perfectly safe.
Regarding the patch, they weren't specific. We will find out from the patch notes once it is out. The only change to mages they did so far is reducing summon wolf cost from 40 to 30 to make it usable from the start, because the SIlbach trainer won't train you above 30. This way you get an early game tank + dps.
Feat Jan 16, 2022 @ 2:56am 
Originally posted by Smartik1:
Originally posted by N.Nihilovicz:
Hm, it says vol. 4 circle IV is on a water mage body in the city sewers. Though I have cleaned it completely and haven't seen any. There are some areas which require a key to access.
Is the book in some plot-gated area there?


Who's the merchant?
The easiest way to get to the sewers bandit room is by using the Araxos entrance and keep going in the direction straight away from the entrance. Imagine a path shaped like a mirrored number 5. You should fight a worm, lizardman, make a sharp turn to an aligator and right past him another sharp turn to the bandits. Their room is lit up, you should see it and it isn't that far from the entrance.

The Old Town accessory merchant sells all kinds of accessories, including the mana regen ones. The shop is marked. It is close to one of the Old Town entrances.

Hi,

Who sells the regen set? I am in chapter 4 and Adrien doesn't have them and susanne doesn't have trading option. Do I have to do something before they start selling it?
eldercom Jan 16, 2022 @ 3:16am 
It was Susanne for me Im pretty sure. Also there is another ring in the sewers
The Commissar Jan 16, 2022 @ 4:02am 
I can write up some general pointers later, if you want some. Currently have close to 180 mana without using a single learning point in end of chapter 2, so got some good tips for the beginning of the game (where being a mage is the most difficult)
BrusLee Jan 16, 2022 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by The Commissar:
I can write up some general pointers later, if you want some. Currently have close to 180 mana without using a single learning point in end of chapter 2, so got some good tips for the beginning of the game (where being a mage is the most difficult)
Sure if you do that would be cool.
I'm writing down some basic info I find out + translating the link above to english (at least mage relevant parts)
After learning Circle 1 I just went to a mage in Silb and learned max mana he could offer.. at start it costed just gold I believe? And then I saw how LP went in but I was smashing it so.. if I used any bah..
I ended my first gameplay with 128LP free.. cause I was always scared to use them "if I need them" but still was able to get into massive numbers thanks to passive boosts and learned most skills with 2 craftings to master. So I wont be that scared with LPs anymore I guess :-)
BrusLee Jan 16, 2022 @ 6:05am 
Just now.. I'm not sure if I screwed or game screwed me.

I did learn From 2 books Circle 1 of magic.
Then I did few quests.. talked with a mage in Silbach and got mana from him..
Now I found my first rune and was happy and.. It wrote to me
"1 magic circle too low to use runes."
I hope I did not get my skills reseted for some reason after talking with mage O.o I really hope that I just reloaded to the point "before learning the magic."
But.. can that happen? That you would lose something like a skill?
Smartik1 Jan 16, 2022 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by BrusLee:
Just now.. I'm not sure if I screwed or game screwed me.

I did learn From 2 books Circle 1 of magic.
Then I did few quests.. talked with a mage in Silbach and got mana from him..
Now I found my first rune and was happy and.. It wrote to me
"1 magic circle too low to use runes."
I hope I did not get my skills reseted for some reason after talking with mage O.o I really hope that I just reloaded to the point "before learning the magic."
But.. can that happen? That you would lose something like a skill?
There are journal entries stating which circle books you read. You can check them.
You can press C and check which circles you know. It won't show Circle 1 until you know it.
There are more copies of the same book in the world. Reading 2 different Circle 1 Book 1 won't do anything for you. You need Circle 1 Book 2 as well. Both of them should cost you 10 LP each.
The Commissar Jan 16, 2022 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by BrusLee:
Sure if you do that would be cool.

Alright, let’s see.
Magic in the game is somewhat like g1 and g2. You will become an unstoppable AOE-murder machine, your early game is gonna suck a little, however so our job is to make that have as little impact as possible.

- to start. The absolute smartest thing would be to go straight for chapter 2 as quickly as possible, do the citizen quest and become the apprentice of the herbalist in town. He’ll teach you to collect seeds, and that is a very vital thing to get as early as possible. The less creatures you kill before getting the skill, the more seeds you’ll be able to gather.

- Herblore is of course an absolute must, not only will it fuel your magic usage, but it will be one of the main ways you increase your mana.
That means getting getting herblore to master, and getting the recipe to the max mana potion as quickly as possible. Luckily, you are able to do this at chapter 2, and therefore able to get over 100 mana in potions. The city herbalist (the one you become apprentice to) will have the recipe after you sign on as apprentice. The herbalist near Silbach (forgot his name) is able to get you to master. It is more important to get this done, than using LP to get mana early on.(but of course after learning the 1st circle

- using your LP on herblore (60 of ‘em, as far as I remember from the top of my head) and on the first circle of magic (20 LP) is gonna leave you with quite a low mana pool, so let’s remedy that.
There are fortunately a myriad number of ways to increase you maximum mana in the game. The most classic of those, are of course the dark mushrooms. 50 are needed for each 5+ Mac mana, so start picking through the undergrowth for as many as possible.

They mostly grow near living/dead trees, near rocky outcroppings, and in caves, so pay close attention to this as possible. A less obvious place to get them, is through traders. A lot of food vendors sell them, along with dishes that contain them. Be sure to scarf ‘em all down.

Books are another way to easily acquire mana. Generally books are always a good purchase, since they give xp per read, and some permanent stat increase when you read the entire set.
An easy place where this also applies is bookstands, read everything like the good scholar you are. ( a good set to read would be bookstands in the cathedral)

- certain items is also gonna increase your mana, chowing down on enough minecrawler mandibles will give you a max mana increase, along with being a wonderful way of filling up your mana until that point, generally I’d recommend getting as many hunting skills as possible, you’ll need the money.

-At last, but not least, jewelry. A trader in the market square will be able to give you a rather fitting belt, and other traders will be able to provide you with rings.

- now. We’ve covered long term and short term goals, let’s talk about making your life more easy.
Regaining mana is definitely gonna be your biggest headache, early game your easiest bet is gonna be blue elder concoctions and alcohol. Every single item you’ll see out in the public streets in the city is free game, and will provide with a winery’s worth of mana giving alcohol.

- SUMMONING! summoning is an incredibly useful skill, and gives you a lot of value for the mana you spend. Your creature will not only do decent damage, but take Aggro, and take quite a beating before going down.

- RESISTANCES!
READ MY WORDS, THIS THE MOST IMPORTANT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ THING YOU NEED TO HAVE HAMMERED IN YOUR HEAD AS A MAGE.

Unlike those blunt-headed pinheads that just bonk whatever is at the other end of their weapon until it is dead, resistances are what will make or break your effectiveness as a mage. You can rain down a billion ice arrow at a skeleton without giving it much of scratch, but a wind-fist will crush ‘em good. Get familiar with your enemy, and get familiar with the damage you deal (you can read more about the damage types in the book series).

A rather frantic pile of info, and I am surely missing something, will get back to it
BrusLee Jan 17, 2022 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by The Commissar:


- to start. The absolute smartest thing would be to go straight for chapter 2 as quickly as possible, do the citizen quest and become the apprentice of the herbalist in town. He’ll teach you to collect seeds, and that is a very vital thing to get as early as possible. The less creatures you kill before getting the skill, the more seeds you’ll be able to gather.
I read first paragraph and I am in... erm.. I'm literally walking as "mage" in chapter one and now map is cleared of anything I am "ok" to kill.. I did not think about seeds..

Originally posted by The Commissar:
certain items is also gonna increase your mana, chowing down on enough minecrawler mandibles
I did not know about mandibles, do you have to read about that? Like about stingers.. if you read a book it will heal you, if you dont.. it wont do anything.

Originally posted by The Commissar:
become the apprentice of the herbalist in town
If you are going to learn all ranks anyway, is it even worth getting a discount on rank 2 alchemy?
Alchemist wont provide any usefull money gaining way compared to bowyer (selling tons of skins for high price) or butcher (toooons of meat for high price) or even selling stolen items.. (that was the least profitable thing I found)
Each time I walk past bowyer it is just 2-3k gold right away.
Same for butcher.. could guess each gave me at least 15+k gold easily without tryharding.
I doubt I gain anything from alchemist, if I actually use the potions.
Last edited by BrusLee; Jan 17, 2022 @ 6:53am
The Commissar Jan 17, 2022 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by BrusLee:
I did not know about mandibles, do you have to read about that? Like about stingers.. if you read a book it will heal you, if you dont.. it wont do anything.
Yes, you can buy the book at Griff, along with the stinger book. You will become immune to the mandibles after using about 10, but it will give you some max mana as a trade-off

Originally posted by BrusLee:
Originally posted by The Commissar:
become the apprentice of the herbalist in town
If you are going to learn all ranks anyway, is it even worth getting a discount on rank 2 alchemy?
Alchemist wont provide any usefull money gaining way compared to bowyer (selling tons of skins for high price) or butcher (toooons of meat for high price) or even selling stolen items.. (that was the least profitable thing I found)

i would give a couple of points why the alchemist is the ideal choice for the mage.

1, It's the fastest way to get access to permanent stat potion recipes, again you need to increase your mana ASAP and this is by far the fastest route.

2, since healing can easily be done through food, brewing and selling all healing herb/weed/root is gonna net you a rather hefty amount of cash. while still being able to sell furs at a rather reasonable price (butcher as second apprenticeship for maximising that sweet, sweet sell value across the board). It might not be AS much as the butcher and bowyer in the beginning, Buuuuut there is another sweet benefit;

3, your gift for finishing the apprenticeship.
A Whopping 25 max mana herbal extract.

- If you want another little fun way of maximizing mana gain with potions (and particularily seeds. Aquire the "herbalist belt" from the merchant in the market square.
Now i know what you are thinking; "2000 for a belt that increases healing and mana gain a bit with your created potions!? that doesn't really seem worth it".

Let me leave a little mystery, and give you this little ponder:
-What happens when you increase a "completely refill your mana/health"?
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