I am litreally mad at this achievement.

[Bilgot the Heartless]

So this is my second run and I wanted to get all achievements. I was prepering with guides to make sure I will not make some mistakes. Guess what? Yeah I did. But this is stupid if you ask me. I am talking about Wolf's Den achievement. I did save before Wolf's Den in case I will fail some quest or whatever because you can do it by not listening Baes with orc quest or you can tell other guy about bear in basement and then Baes will not give you quest with skins. Cool, guides helped me with this knowledge. And then I randomly found out you have to help Nelson with shadowbeast... You can not let him go to the monstery because then you will not get quest with skins for Baes and you will not get achievement. Seriously? Is this family even wolf sons? I did this quest at the beginning of chapter 2 and sent him to the monstery because in my first run I helped him so I wanted to check other option. How does it make sense? He is not leaving inside castle and how Boes knows about that when I would help him with shadowbeast? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE and I lost opportunity to get this achievement just for that? Why this quest is avaiable in chapter 2 if it's connected with Wolf sons. Come on.... I just got punished for nothing. And what? I have to start again for just one achievement? Because I guess I can't do nothing about that... So cool.

[eldercom]

Good thing I helped him to kill the shadowbeast in my playthrough. I can share my save, it is at the end of CH2, where everything is cleared but no choices made. I was going to do this anyway, just wanted to check that nothing is broken first.
But yes, such not obvious things are a bad practice. Reminds me of one of the achievement in Wasteland 2, that made me abandon them entirely

[Bilgot the Heartless]

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Good thing I helped him to kill the shadowbeast in my playthrough. I can share my save, it is at the end of CH2, where everything is cleared but no choices made. I was going to do this anyway, just wanted to check that nothing is broken first.
But yes, such not obvious things are a bad practice. Reminds me of one of the achievement in Wasteland 2, that made me abandon them entirely

Nah thanks for that but this thing made me tired. It just does not make sense. Other things sure, they do like you don't listen Baes, he is upset for that. You tell others about bear, he is upset for that. I just don't see here any logic. I would like to use marvin mode to do something with that but I don't think it is even possible. Yes random Nelson destroyed everything. Litreally no one could expect that. Whatever... If there is a command for another Baes or command for this quest i would be happy but i don't think so there is something like that...

[Bilgot the Heartless]

Oh now i checked and I have a save from my first run not that far from Wolf's Den so it's not that bad. I just have to do Wolf's Den twice. But I will keep saying that Nelson quest connected with Baes quest does not make any sense.

Also funny how my first run character is weak compared to my Marvin right now.

[.eReN.]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Game4Fun:

So this is my second run and I wanted to get all achievements. I was prepering with guides to make sure I will not make some mistakes. Guess what? Yeah I did. But this is stupid if you ask me. I am talking about Wolf's Den achievement. I did save before Wolf's Den in case I will fail some quest or whatever because you can do it by not listening Baes with orc quest or you can tell other guy about bear in basement and then Baes will not give you quest with skins. Cool, guides helped me with this knowledge. And then I randomly found out you have to help Nelson with shadowbeast... You can not let him go to the monstery because then you will not get quest with skins for Baes and you will not get achievement. Seriously? Is this family even wolf sons? I did this quest at the beginning of chapter 2 and sent him to the monstery because in my first run I helped him so I wanted to check other option. How does it make sense? He is not leaving inside castle and how Boes knows about that when I would help him with shadowbeast? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE and I lost opportunity to get this achievement just for that? Why this quest is avaiable in chapter 2 if it's connected with Wolf sons. Come on.... I just got punished for nothing. And what? I have to start again for just one achievement? Because I guess I can't do nothing about that... So cool.

Noooo, wait a moment, you should get this achievement even if you SEND HIM to monastery. I think it doesn't really matter because he is not a wolfs son.
I sent him and i have finished EVERY quest inside fortress, except the one for alchemist (because half of the guys in the swamp got killed by poision) and i still got it and Baes gave me Wolf armor.

Can you tell me which quests did you finish? Did you give ingredient to the warrior which you choose for the fight? And did you bring him his sword? It's the quest you get from Loria.
Ah and if you kill the orcs BEFORE Baes orders you to attack, you probably won't get the achievement too :/

[.eReN.]

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Good thing I helped him to kill the shadowbeast in my playthrough. I can share my save, it is at the end of CH2, where everything is cleared but no choices made. I was going to do this anyway, just wanted to check that nothing is broken first.
But yes, such not obvious things are a bad practice. Reminds me of one of the achievement in Wasteland 2, that made me abandon them entirely

Which one? :P For me gorrilla suit one and getting every note and book was worst...

[pi73r]

Good i found this thread because i didnt even know i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up my 1st run by beating baes :D

[Bilgot the Heartless]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Game4Fun:

So this is my second run and I wanted to get all achievements. I was prepering with guides to make sure I will not make some mistakes. Guess what? Yeah I did. But this is stupid if you ask me. I am talking about Wolf's Den achievement. I did save before Wolf's Den in case I will fail some quest or whatever because you can do it by not listening Baes with orc quest or you can tell other guy about bear in basement and then Baes will not give you quest with skins. Cool, guides helped me with this knowledge. And then I randomly found out you have to help Nelson with shadowbeast... You can not let him go to the monstery because then you will not get quest with skins for Baes and you will not get achievement. Seriously? Is this family even wolf sons? I did this quest at the beginning of chapter 2 and sent him to the monstery because in my first run I helped him so I wanted to check other option. How does it make sense? He is not leaving inside castle and how Boes knows about that when I would help him with shadowbeast? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE and I lost opportunity to get this achievement just for that? Why this quest is avaiable in chapter 2 if it's connected with Wolf sons. Come on.... I just got punished for nothing. And what? I have to start again for just one achievement? Because I guess I can't do nothing about that... So cool.

Noooo, wait a moment, you should get this achievement even if you SEND HIM to monastery. I think it doesn't really matter because he is not a wolfs son.
I sent him and i have finished EVERY quest inside fortress, except the one for alchemist (because half of the guys in the swamp got killed by poision) and i still got it and Baes gave me Wolf armor.

Can you tell me which quests did you finish? Did you give ingredient to the warrior which you choose for the fight? And did you bring him his sword? It's the quest you get from Loria.
Ah and if you kill the orcs BEFORE Baes orders you to attack, you probably won't get the achievement too :/

I only did "Not to be lifted" quest in Wolf's Den. About this fight, do I also have to win my bet in this quest? In my first run I lost it because I did bet for dex fighter. Now I wanted to bet strenght fighter so i would win my bet. Does it also matter for Baes quest? And Yes i know about orc quest with Baes and also can't tell others about his bear.

[.eReN.]

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Noooo, wait a moment, you should get this achievement even if you SEND HIM to monastery. I think it doesn't really matter because he is not a wolfs son.
I sent him and i have finished EVERY quest inside fortress, except the one for alchemist (because half of the guys in the swamp got killed by poision) and i still got it and Baes gave me Wolf armor.

Can you tell me which quests did you finish? Did you give ingredient to the warrior which you choose for the fight? And did you bring him his sword? It's the quest you get from Loria.
Ah and if you kill the orcs BEFORE Baes orders you to attack, you probably won't get the achievement too :/

I only did "Not to be lifted" quest in Wolf's Den. About this fight, do I also have to win my bet in this quest? In my first run I lost it because I did bet for dex fighter. Now I wanted to bet strenght fighter so i would win my bet. Does it also matter for Baes quest? And Yes i know about orc quest with Baes and also can't tell others about his bear.

Maybe this is it, because then he (strength fighter) will give you quest to bring his sword. I would try :) When i chose him, i gave him his sword and when he won he gave me STR potion.
Also (if you didn't) finish quest for the inn keeper which you get after you give him Dark Paladin beer.

[Bilgot the Heartless]

Well I should finish all Wolf's Den quests this night or tomorrow so I will let you know if it works or not even with that "fail" with Nelson. I hope you are right and it will work.

[.eReN.]

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Well I should finish all Wolf's Den quests this night or tomorrow so I will let you know if it works or not even with that "fail" with Nelson. I hope you are right and it will work.

I think that if Baes will give you Wolf's Son armor, then achievement should pop up too :)
Powodzenia!

[JimboYCS]

Lol I didn't even knew that Nelson wanted to join Monastery. I have conviced him to not hunt ShadowB, because me as Mage did like no damage to it at that time xd

[T-82]

I helped Nelson with slaying shadowbeast in chapter 2, and did all quests in Wolf's Den. I didn't poison pirates, and finished Yezegan questline ending with 3 permament potions(HP, STR, DEX). I also bet my 100 gold on Kylid, and returned the sword to Devir, after the quest for extra 300 experience.
I received the achievment, but I didn't get any armor from Baes, I saved just before the decision and both, telling about bear or not, did result in me not obtainin the armor.
Is there something extra to be done to receive armor?

[.eReN.]

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I helped Nelson with slaying shadowbeast in chapter 2, and did all quests in Wolf's Den. I didn't poison pirates, and finished Yezegan questline ending with 3 permament potions(HP, STR, DEX). I also bet my 100 gold on Kylid, and returned the sword to Devir, after the quest for extra 300 experience.
I received the achievment, but I didn't get any armor from Baes, I saved just before the decision and both, telling about bear or not, did result in me not obtainin the armor.
Is there something extra to be done to receive armor?

He should give you the armor after you leave Ulryk stronghold (AFTER you meet with Jon). Strange, because you should get armor if you got achievement.

[eldercom]

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Which one? :P For me gorrilla suit one and getting every note and book was worst...

There are 2 mutually exclusive ways in the very beginning of the game. I went with laboratory and I was going to play through the game once more and make another choices, pick the town instead of the laboratory to have a nice place to hang out and such. But right at the end of the game when I started to look at the achievements I found one (about some masks) for which I would have to play through the whole game again (and finish it!) again choosing the laboratory way. That was it.
Maybe gorilla suit it was

[T-82]

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I helped Nelson with slaying shadowbeast in chapter 2, and did all quests in Wolf's Den. I didn't poison pirates, and finished Yezegan questline ending with 3 permament potions(HP, STR, DEX). I also bet my 100 gold on Kylid, and returned the sword to Devir, after the quest for extra 300 experience.
I received the achievment, but I didn't get any armor from Baes, I saved just before the decision and both, telling about bear or not, did result in me not obtainin the armor.
Is there something extra to be done to receive armor?

He should give you the armor after you leave Ulryk stronghold (AFTER you meet with Jon). Strange, because you should get armor if you got achievement.

Oh ok, I thought that armor is being given at the moment the achievments pops up. Then no wonder I didn't finally get it, as my final decision was to tell about the bear.
Thats must be why I didn't have any quests/dialog options in wolfs den after meeting Jorn.