Please coool it a little with the millenial writing.

[Raubritter]

I mean no disrespect to the writers. I've done pretty much every quest in the Horns of the South and for the most part the writing is solid. However I couldn't help but notice a few instances of cringy dialogue, the like you would find in a Marvel movie or on Reddit.

Such instances are:

- When rescuing the Dal Riata smuggler woman, one of the dialogue options for the character is "Superstitious much?" There must be a better way of saying that without sounding like a 2025 Californian person. Maybe simply "You sound superstitious." or something like that.

- I can't remember which NPC (maybe the healer in the Keep?) uses the word "literally" in a way only modern people do.

- The entire druid prank quest. I get that the devs want to put some comedy into the game, I assume so that the game isn't so dark and depressing as becoming an edgefest.
But the Druids are hyped up as being this elusive force that people are terrified of, and the first time you finally encounter them, they are a complete joke. This feels completely tone-deaf. If this quest was somewhere in the middle in the game, it would be fine, but the first encounter with Druids should be much more serious IMO.


Now I understand that going for a more archaic type of writing full of "Thou" and "I shall bring you succour" like in Dark Souls or Dragon's Dogma is not everyone's cup of tea, even though personally I think it does a good job at immersing you in a fantasy world.

But on the other hand, it should be possible to use "normal" modern dialogue, without resorting to expressions that are so modern they completely pull you out of the experience.

Again I've only seen these few instances, I don't want anyone reading this to think that this game is some Veilguard-tier cringefest full of Marvel dialogue. I just hope the writers will try to avoid any such instances for the later parts of the game.

[Dasparado]

This is a fine example on why the Steam forums are great.

[Logantron]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dasparado:

This is a fine example on why the Steam forums are great.

He's right, though. It totally takes away from the tone.

Not everything has to be like your ZOMG marvel movies.

[Raubritter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dasparado:

This is a fine example on why the Steam forums are great.

I assume you're being ironic, but I'm not sure why. I think I've argued my point decently well.

[CitizenKing]

"Millenial writing" like its some young and hip way of talking when Millenials are now in their 40s.

[Raubritter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CitizenKing:

"Millenial writing" like its some young and hip way of talking when Millenials are now in their 40s.

What? I'm 28. This type of writing is precisely what you expect someone in his 40s to come up with.

[ian.fant]

Honestly, the other examples went over my head but the druid prank quest was very disappointing. I wanted something dark and cool, not a couple of ghosts talking smack

[LeftPaw]

+1
There is a bit to much of this modern day slang creeping into our fantasy games and it's true, it pulls you right out of the game and slams you onto Twitters front page.
We don't need it, dev's don't need it and the game doesn't need it.

[50 Shades of Gandalf the Grey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CitizenKing:

"Millenial writing" like its some young and hip way of talking when Millenials are now in their 40s.

About 20% of Millenials are in their 40s. Its more like Zoomer-speak.

Source, am GenX, am 45.

[Gekko]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 50 Shades of Gandalf the Grey:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CitizenKing:

"Millenial writing" like its some young and hip way of talking when Millenials are now in their 40s.

About 20% of Millenials are in their 40s. Its more like Zoomer-speak.

Source, am GenX, am 45.

this is not how zoomers speak bro

[Raubritter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 50 Shades of Gandalf the Grey:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CitizenKing:

"Millenial writing" like its some young and hip way of talking when Millenials are now in their 40s.

About 20% of Millenials are in their 40s. Its more like Zoomer-speak.

Source, am GenX, am 45.

Zoomer speak would be barely human linguo like "fr fr bro no cap ong".

What I'm talking about is definitely Gen Y writing, like what you would find in a Marvel movie. Not that there's too much of that in this game, a I said I've only seen a couple instances.

[IDreamOfWires]

I don't know if it's zoomer, millenial or whatever, don't really care either. I'd rather not have it in the game though any more than I'd want 80's valley girl lingo in the game. It just doesn't fit the setting.

[Macdallan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Logantron:

He's right, though. It totally takes away from the tone.

Not everything has to be like your ZOMG marvel movies.

Yes, it absolutely kills the tone and immersion.

Absolutely. Heck, I think the ZOMG Marvel movies shouldn't even be like the ZOMG Marvel movies.... I remember when Marvel movies USED to be fairly entertaining but lately the quality has dropped and a lot of that is due to the poor writing.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von IDreamOfWires:

I don't know if it's zoomer, millenial or whatever, don't really care either. I'd rather not have it in the game though any more than I'd want 80's valley girl lingo in the game. It just doesn't fit the setting.

100%.

[Chungo Beepis]

Hmm this is a good post, rare post. It's difficult because on one hand you can't stick to some Tolkeinized language indefinitely, language evolves, it should also evolve in games, just because we're familiar with a style shouldn't create an expectation of it, that's kinda stale thinking. But i do agree the act of contraction can be trite if used in a terrestrial way we're already familiar, simply reinforcing the problems inherent in using a traditional ye olde worlde voice.

[Raubritter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chungo Beepis:

you can't stick to some Tolkeinized language indefinitely

It works well in Dragon's Dogma or the FromSoftware games, IMO.
But yes I'm not really advocating for that, It's way too late in development to completely change the writing style anyway.

[Spook Rooster]

how does "modern writing" take you out of a game that has no actual historical setting?