make water actually water

[Brute]

please make it so you or zombies can't walk on water

[OKOK]

Your guys can swim too.

[Laggy]

Originally posted by OKOK:

Your guys can swim too.

LOL, in that case, not only zombies can swim, they can actually go scuba diving even without scuba...XD

[Rider]

Well, you can swim, water can freeze too. I think it will stay this way.

[Soylent_Greene]

Was thinking it would make places like Roosevelt Island in NYC really powerful. Nice big moat around the island, and all the rest of NYC to explore from there!

BTW >>> has anyone noticed if the Statue of Liberty shows as a structure on Ellis Island?

I don't have the game yet so cannot tell!

[squirrelarmyuk]

Originally posted by Rider:

Well, you can swim, water can freeze too. I think it will stay this way.

I've just seen someones game play where they drove a car across the river. That's fine anywhere near the arctic circle but for 99% of the world you shouldn't be able to take a car anywhere near ice.

What happens in the summer? Will these frozen rivers still be frozen?

[Rider]

Originally posted by squirrelarmyuk:

Originally posted by Rider:

Well, you can swim, water can freeze too. I think it will stay this way.

I've just seen someones game play where they drove a car across the river. That's fine anywhere near the arctic circle but for 99% of the world you shouldn't be able to take a car anywhere near ice.

What happens in the summer? Will these frozen rivers still be frozen?

We need some simplifications to the system, although we're considering taking away possibility of water driving completely. As of this moment, cars should be able to drive on water only in the winter.

[BoNeZ]

Yea water should be something we can use strategically, i hear even cars can drive on water LOL, this and the facebook graphics for the ingame world puts me off, it is very similiar and cheap looking like a facebook game but looking forward to see on release.

[Rune Trantor]

Maybe differentiate between shallow water one can wade through, and deep water that you wouldnt be swimming through while full of loot, and zombies probably dont have the finer motor skills or mental capacity to swim?
(and tbf a lot of zombie media suggests that zombies would be hydrophobic, inspiring from the rabies path to real zombies)

[oOsugar-rushOo]

On a side note, surely in such a post apocalyptic scenario the water treatment works would have ceased to work and citizens would have to build their own water collection facilities and treatment works.

I suggest guttering alterations, water butts, sanitation plant, sewage disposal trenches and water storage towers.

[Liam]

Originally posted by Rider:

Originally posted by squirrelarmyuk:

I've just seen someones game play where they drove a car across the river. That's fine anywhere near the arctic circle but for 99% of the world you shouldn't be able to take a car anywhere near ice.

What happens in the summer? Will these frozen rivers still be frozen?

We need some simplifications to the system, although we're considering taking away possibility of water driving completely. As of this moment, cars should be able to drive on water only in the winter.

I thought you said a couple of months ago that you were going to restrict water movement?

[Buntkreuz]

Swimming is something you need to do with consciousness.
Its a movement action you perform with thought, Something like a Zombie would not be able to perform that simply because that Zombie (Infected) wouldnt perform the action with thought and consciousness.
And no, you cant swim out of habit.
At max i could imagine them hectically hitting water, which would at last just have them go down anyway.

I guess that most rivers and lakes would simply block their movement because of that.


And honestly, i would be fine if survivors would be restricted the same way.
You cant just swim through most waters in cities anyway.
Too deep, too large, too dangerous, cold or with a strong flow.
Going through a lake sounds dumb too, as the infected would try to get you from either side, by simply going around or you are unlucky and another horde waits.

So the conclusion would not be to unify the rule and allow everything to go over it, but do the opposite and allow NOTHING over it.
Makes more sense, narratively and in terms of gameplay.

And the only thing allowing you to pass over it, would be boats

[Skali]

Originally posted by Buntkreuz:

Swimming is something you need to do with consciousness.
Its a movement action you perform with thought, Something like a Zombie would not be able to perform that simply because that Zombie (Infected) wouldnt perform the action with thought and consciousness.
And no, you cant swim out of habit.
At max i could imagine them hectically hitting water, which would at last just have them go down anyway.

I guess that most rivers and lakes would simply block their movement because of that.


And honestly, i would be fine if survivors would be restricted the same way.
You cant just swim through most waters in cities anyway.
Too deep, too large, too dangerous, cold or with a strong flow.
Going through a lake sounds dumb too, as the infected would try to get you from either side, by simply going around or you are unlucky and another horde waits.

So the conclusion would not be to unify the rule and allow everything to go over it, but do the opposite and allow NOTHING over it.
Makes more sense, narratively and in terms of gameplay.

And the only thing allowing you to pass over it, would be boats

I second this. Water should be used as a strategic element. I feel like most players will assume it is for your given reasons, and be a tad disappointed when they find out it isn't.

[CrookedToe]

Originally posted by Skali:

Originally posted by Buntkreuz:

Swimming is something you need to do with consciousness.
Its a movement action you perform with thought, Something like a Zombie would not be able to perform that simply because that Zombie (Infected) wouldnt perform the action with thought and consciousness.
And no, you cant swim out of habit.
At max i could imagine them hectically hitting water, which would at last just have them go down anyway.

I guess that most rivers and lakes would simply block their movement because of that.


And honestly, i would be fine if survivors would be restricted the same way.
You cant just swim through most waters in cities anyway.
Too deep, too large, too dangerous, cold or with a strong flow.
Going through a lake sounds dumb too, as the infected would try to get you from either side, by simply going around or you are unlucky and another horde waits.

So the conclusion would not be to unify the rule and allow everything to go over it, but do the opposite and allow NOTHING over it.
Makes more sense, narratively and in terms of gameplay.

And the only thing allowing you to pass over it, would be boats

I second this. Water should be used as a strategic element. I feel like most players will assume it is for your given reasons, and be a tad disappointed when they find out it isn't.

3rd this. Having uncrossable water would add for a lot of interesting gameplay mechanics.

[Abaçı]

Zombies return from the dead, I think we all know another person who returned from the death and walked on water so zombies walking on water should actually be canonical.

[Rider]

Before you get too much into zombie logics - please do keep in mind that enemies here are not zombies, but living infected people ;)