"PLAY IN ANY CITY!!!" selling point is not entirely accurate

[Ronin]

"Play in a small cropped part of any city" is the reality.

Give us at least 9x the current grid size so that your "PLAY IN ANY CITY!!!" selling point is actually true and not false advertising.

Even the rigid way that the grid is place in preassigned areas rather than being able to place it anywhere ensures that even if you pick a familiar village or small area - parts will be inexplicably cut off.

The best part is that they remain visible and practically within reach, but the game just says "no, despite us promising you could play on any city, you can't go to that part of the city because our grid system doesn't allow it, for some reason".

[=EaSy= matou78]

mate , what do you mean, you can play anywhere you want x) for now as this is a pre alpha , what do you want more lol let them fix the game breaking bugs so they can continue the game dev part :) as it looks, the play zones will be way bigger further down the developpement

[Brandon12340987]

if you buy the supporter bundle you get access to early alpha and you can select the globe and play anywhere

[Lady Neravin]

Originally posted by Brandon12340987:

if you buy the supporter bundle you get access to early alpha and you can select the globe and play anywhere

They are talking abou the small playable area, you can't play in the whole city of NY in one save file for example.

[Muppethero]

Originally posted by Ronin:

"Play in a small cropped part of any city" is the reality.

Give us at least 9x the current grid size so that your "PLAY IN ANY CITY!!!" selling point is actually true and not false advertising.

Even the rigid way that the grid is place in preassigned areas rather than being able to place it anywhere ensures that even if you pick a familiar village or small area - parts will be inexplicably cut off.

The best part is that they remain visible and practically within reach, but the game just says "no, despite us promising you could play on any city, you can't go to that part of the city because our grid system doesn't allow it, for some reason".

i am currently playing on my street in a small town in Washington state. My HQ is a Mormon church that I can look at out my window. You can in fact play almost anywhere.
You need buildings to support the game so the game preventing someone from picking places that have too few is doing you a favor.
I have also played at safeco Field in seattle, The people's palace in Bucharest and an Island off the coast of California.

[Lady Neravin]

Originally posted by Muppethero:

Originally posted by Ronin:

"Play in a small cropped part of any city" is the reality.

Give us at least 9x the current grid size so that your "PLAY IN ANY CITY!!!" selling point is actually true and not false advertising.

Even the rigid way that the grid is place in preassigned areas rather than being able to place it anywhere ensures that even if you pick a familiar village or small area - parts will be inexplicably cut off.

The best part is that they remain visible and practically within reach, but the game just says "no, despite us promising you could play on any city, you can't go to that part of the city because our grid system doesn't allow it, for some reason".

i am currently playing on my street in a small town in Washington state. My HQ is a Mormon church that I can look at out my window. You can in fact play almost anywhere.
You need buildings to support the game so the game preventing someone from picking places that have too few is doing you a favor.
I have also played at safeco Field in seattle, The people's palace in Bucharest and an Island off the coast of California.

They are talking abou the small playable area, you can't play in the whole city of NY in one save file for example. (the second)

[Ronin]

Originally posted by Brandon12340987:

if you buy the supporter bundle you get access to early alpha and you can select the globe and play anywhere

This is what I've done. My point still stands. The grid you are given is actually very small and it's impossible to "Play in any city" as most towns won't even fit into the grid, let alone any city. Map should be at least 4x bigger. Would be better if Infected started inside buildings or in parts of the town/city/urban areas rather than spawning from the edges of the map also. Feels like an elaborate tower defence game but with 90% of the things locked behind options. It feels like absolutely nothing new was changed or added since the Demo release several months ago. Genuinely curious what the devs are doing with their time.

[Scruffy]

Originally posted by Ronin:

Originally posted by Brandon12340987:

if you buy the supporter bundle you get access to early alpha and you can select the globe and play anywhere

This is what I've done. My point still stands. The grid you are given is actually very small and it's impossible to "Play in any city" as most towns won't even fit into the grid, let alone any city. Map should be at least 4x bigger. Would be better if Infected started inside buildings or in parts of the town/city/urban areas rather than spawning from the edges of the map also. Feels like an elaborate tower defence game but with 90% of the things locked behind options. It feels like absolutely nothing new was changed or added since the Demo release several months ago. Genuinely curious what the devs are doing with their time.

Games still in development mate, half the buildings and research options that we even have are still in development.

hell they only recently added the ability to save games

[Sixes&Sevens]

Originally posted by Ronin:

"Play in a small cropped part of any city" is the reality.

Give us at least 9x the current grid size so that your "PLAY IN ANY CITY!!!" selling point is actually true and not false advertising.

Even the rigid way that the grid is place in preassigned areas rather than being able to place it anywhere ensures that even if you pick a familiar village or small area - parts will be inexplicably cut off.

The best part is that they remain visible and practically within reach, but the game just says "no, despite us promising you could play on any city, you can't go to that part of the city because our grid system doesn't allow it, for some reason".

its not really false, while the grid might be a little small, you are still playing within whatever city you chose.... with the game being in alpha it's pretty darn solid and i was impressed to pull up my own town and see landmarks and streets that im familiar with.

[llm]

Wow, calm down.

The fact is that the game allows to select any place around the world.

Yeah, OK, you cannot play in ALL New-York city in the version 0.23 but...... it's still undergoing development. Claiming that "play in any city" is false is unrelevant and... false.

You are claiming that despite the fact that the studio already developed games that truly permits to play in any city of any size.

Go buy some kindness, some patience too, see what the studio already developed and think twice before claiming something is false about an undergoing development game.

Acting so rudely does not help in any way.

[Nain-phomane]

I agree with the rigid placement, i would prefer place the first x9 square with more freedom (just a little) to be able to place your HQ anywhere you want (sometimes with the actual placement, a cool place to start will be between 2 squares and making it less enjoyable for starting) but for other places it will come later, dev confirm it and you can see a research section about it already IG.

But for the other point no, you can play where you want, i try a lot, yes big city, big problem for now ... or not, Paris Montmartre was fine, even Sacré Coeur great render and some other things need better designation on the oppenstreet (like bridge or was consider as building).

But we all pay for a pre alpha, don't complain or ask the moon in the first week, be more constructive in your post ;)

[GodlyXJohn]

Originally posted by Nain-phomane:

I agree with the rigid placement, i would prefer place the first x9 square with more freedom (just a little) to be able to place your HQ anywhere you want (sometimes with the actual placement, a cool place to start will be between 2 squares and making it less enjoyable for starting) but for other places it will come later, dev confirm it and you can see a research section about it already IG.

But for the other point no, you can play where you want, i try a lot, yes big city, big problem for now ... or not, Paris Montmartre was fine, even Sacré Coeur great render and some other things need better designation on the oppenstreet (like bridge or was consider as building).

But we all pay for a pre alpha, don't complain or ask the moon in the first week, be more constructive in your post ;)

ITS IN ALPHA Stage, ITS CURRENTLY LIMITED BUT WILL NOT BE ONCE RELEASED, FOR THE 10000000 TIME. READ above for god sakes. I will say this the temps of opprating and benchmarks I run show the game being harder on the PCs then needed for the style and structure of the game, the power pull, and the temp rates are weirdly high for a game of this size and style. For example Im able to pull 120 frames on WOW, and ultra graphics while keeping temps below 70 with little to addintional speeds to my fans, while on this game my fans need to be ramped up to maintain safe temps its weirdly odd.

[Ronin]

Originally posted by Nain-phomane:

I agree with the rigid placement, i would prefer place the first x9 square with more freedom (just a little) to be able to place your HQ anywhere you want (sometimes with the actual placement, a cool place to start will be between 2 squares and making it less enjoyable for starting) but for other places it will come later, dev confirm it and you can see a research section about it already IG.

But for the other point no, you can play where you want, i try a lot, yes big city, big problem for now ... or not, Paris Montmartre was fine, even Sacré Coeur great render and some other things need better designation on the oppenstreet (like bridge or was consider as building).

But we all pay for a pre alpha, don't complain or ask the moon in the first week, be more constructive in your post ;)

Yeah I found in both my home towns there were sections I wanted to start in but they were just outside of the grid and placing the grid so that they were included, meant other parts were not.

@GodlyJohn yes it's in Alpha but it seems the "Expeditions" feature is already semi planned out - the grids are 9 squares and every square outside of it has a disabled "Expedition" overlay. Given how dangerous it gets, I assume we won't be given control of Squads to go and explore these extra squares, it will probably be some "Mission" thing where they disappear for a month or so and then come back with a bunch of loot. I think it would be 10x more immersive and fun if the current map size was expanded to be 8x larger - the same 9 square grid but expanded on every side. Having the ability to barricade houses or make makeshift defences would be awesome and then you could plan your own manually controlled expedition to far corners of the much larger map. Atm once you have a car, the entire 9 squares and all the default space becomes trivial to traverse. I can imagine it's even more trivial once you reach over 100 survivors or more! I'm just not hopeful about the map size changing due to the "Expeditions" seemingly already in place

[Dondon1002]

Originally posted by Ronin:

Originally posted by Brandon12340987:

This is what I've done. My point still stands.

At this point, the game requires a lot of processing for even this size of map( also consider, to get from one side of the map to the other your require 20h on foot); and the map itself may not even be completely rendereder perfectly. Top on that, the save file problems. The map maybe it will be enlarged later( for high spec computer) trough a setting in the start of the campaign. Give them time, it's already surprising what they have done now

[Nain-phomane]

Originally posted by GodlyXJohn:

Originally posted by Nain-phomane:

I agree with the rigid placement, i would prefer place the first x9 square with more freedom (just a little) to be able to place your HQ anywhere you want (sometimes with the actual placement, a cool place to start will be between 2 squares and making it less enjoyable for starting) but for other places it will come later, dev confirm it and you can see a research section about it already IG.

But for the other point no, you can play where you want, i try a lot, yes big city, big problem for now ... or not, Paris Montmartre was fine, even Sacré Coeur great render and some other things need better designation on the oppenstreet (like bridge or was consider as building).

But we all pay for a pre alpha, don't complain or ask the moon in the first week, be more constructive in your post ;)

ITS IN ALPHA Stage, ITS CURRENTLY LIMITED BUT WILL NOT BE ONCE RELEASED, FOR THE 10000000 TIME. READ above for god sakes. I will say this the temps of opprating and benchmarks I run show the game being harder on the PCs then needed for the style and structure of the game, the power pull, and the temp rates are weirdly high for a game of this size and style. For example Im able to pull 120 frames on WOW, and ultra graphics while keeping temps below 70 with little to addintional speeds to my fans, while on this game my fans need to be ramped up to maintain safe temps its weirdly odd.

No need for CAPS, i just say it was alpha in the message you quote ;)

[BLACKcOPstRIPPa]

Don't get me wrong I hope they eventually make the playable area larger.

But this is pre early access. This is like the alpha for the beta before early access launch lol

I wouldn't mind if it is incorporated like other city building games, like you select your initial area, "same size as now" and the squares around you on the map can be purchased, maybe using research points and other goods as a bribe. Like another survivor group has claim to the region and you contact them and "pay them" in supplies for the additional region.
Than it becomes part of your playable area and you can build there etc.

It would all need programming and testing etc, and prob can wait because the devs have so much more they are already discussing and working on.

That's like late game sim city after the basics are all big free etc