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Instead, Squeenix found yet another way to turn treasure into trash. Not only does the Remake kinda suck, but it's also overpriced, tedious, and you have to pay for it THREE TIMES to finish the story. Certainly a sign of the times we live in.
For Remake they laid a solid groundwork for a brand new combat system, world and narrative vehicle. It served as a great proof of concept and in it's own right was a solid game. If they crammed everything into that first attempt and truncated the hell out of it then we'd only have gotten 1 solid game out of this.
Instead for Rebirth they fine-tuned the hell out of everything. The combat is SIGNIFICANTLY better; the world is dense and beautiful; the writing and story telling are improved. With all of the ways they were able to improve with this iteration we've got more than a solid game; we have a STRONG GOTY contender.
I can only imagine what they'll be able to do with the third installment.
as in, i thought by buying this i would get the whole FFVII game, not just episode 1 of 3.
especially so, because there's no mention of this that you're only getting part of the game -- it's not the whole game.
imagine buying FFVII for playstation, open the case and it only has one disc instead of all three
It's an intentional omission in the marketing since they know it's not a good thing. This was clearly a decision from a Square executive to generate more revenue, and the creative team was forced to work with it. The whole "oh we did it in 3 parts because we wanted to expand on the story and lore" was poppycock, since that was totally possible with just one single game.
Ignore the people who believe the propaganda here, they're a bit deluded and are incapable of identifying cash grabs.
What they should've done was do the main story as one single game, with maybe a few (not a lot) minigames and sidequests here and there, and then add more content later on as optional DLC. Add some cosmetic DLCs too and Square would've had themselves a real money maker, that would please most gamers.
Instead they got greedy and tried to force everyone to pay for what should've been optional content, by holding the entire main story "ransom", i.e. you have to pay for all 3 parts to enjoy the entire story, otherwise you miss out. That was never going to go down well. I thought it was very disrespectful of them to treat gamers this way, to force us to wait longer than necessary for the remake and force us to pay more.
I see guys like Max Dood defending this decision, and I like Dood, but he's wrong and I feel a lot of strong Square shill energy from him. I mean he said he enjoyed FF15, so that says it all. If you can't criticise the worst FF mainline title ever made (FF15) then you're clearly a blind fanboy.
All that said, Rebirth is actually legit a good game, so I recommend you wait for bargain bin prices and play it eventually. I'm sure once part 3 is out Square will do a compilation package for all 3 games. I managed to get Remake for 15 USD eventually, so it's possible.
This. if they planned from the start they could have made it possible to import stuff. they would have had to be more selective on how many weapons/materia you could acquire in remake so when you imported all that it wouldn't make you OP even if you maxxed everything.
at the very least they could have done a questionnaire at the start of rebirth that let you configure cloud's relationship with Tifa and Aeirth such as the dresses they wore, which one cloud pursued. it could have given the opportunity for conditional dialog later based on those choices.
Both entries of this trilogy so far have eclipsed OG in scale by a crazy amount. From the size of the playable space to the amount of dialogue, Remake is much bigger, with Rebirth much bigger than that. The three parts combined isn't a game that could feasibly have been developed, put on PS4 or 5 and been put out for the standard going rate for games. These are very large games that have a lot of content.
If they did that in one game it wouldn't have been anywhere near the scale we are seeing of the trilogy.
This is hundreds of hours of game.
Your suggestion is exactly why devs generally shouldn't listen to fans. And you say all of this like you are being abused...while you have not only bought Rebirth having played Remake, but you have dozens and dozens of hours played on it.
Who asked for hundreds of hours of content? Who even has the time for it? That demographic is tiny within the FF7 community. We just wanted a remake of the game we loved, not a blown up version designed more to cater to the Square's bottom line, than some artistic pursuit.
Rebirth is amazing in so many ways, and there were good parts in Remake. All of it was possible within one single game. You're confusing the scale in size vs scale in content. What we got in Rebirth, as good as it is, is simply the standard we expect of open worlds today with large budgets and modern game engines.
Remake should've been one single game, I'm ok with the sacrifices that comes with that, since it would've been the better decision overall. There will never be a perfect decision made, but splitting it into 3 games was just plain greedy and Square has clearly overestimated the appetite for it.
Who has time for it? Evidently you do.
What do you base that only a tiny demographic wants what they are offering on? Surely not the high praise and overwhelming approval of the games.
It was all possible in one game? That would have been a mammoth game. How am I confusing scale and content? Both were packed.
This is "standard?" It is very highly detailed and so many unique assets, and a lot of it.
If they did make it a single game, it would have had to have been much, much smaller, if nothing else, just to develop it.
It's "greedy" because they make some quality products and ask reasonable prices? Cool.
Overestimated the appetite for it, meanwhile, it is a top seller with high marks. Awesome.
You don't need 3 fricken games to expand on an original story that only lasted 35 hours and was more than enough for fans back in the day. Plenty of quality of remakes have been made over the years and not a single one of them needed 3 parts to be done well.
Square could've created a remake with a 50 hour main campaign, 15 or so hours more than the original, that would been more than sufficient to expand on the lore and character development they wanted for this new vision of the story. All possible within one single game. Any extra content can be done as optional DLC for those that want it.
That would've been the choice that would please most gamers. But Square wanted a way to force gamers to "pay" for the extra content, so they included all that extra content and split the entire project into 3 parts, and now gamers who just want to enjoy the main story are forced to buy and play all 3 parts to do so. That's bound to annoy quite a few people, including myself.
You don't need a remake to experience the story of FFVII.
And, this isn't really a remake in the sense that you probably mean that term. This is a sequel that is expanding on VII's story.
Sure, SE could have done a cash grab, just rehash the game and put it in 3D, at a much smaller scale than this. They didn't. They did something new and they're doing it big. Don't like it? OG FFVII still exists. Mods are out there to up the visuals and tweak other aspects of it. This isn't cashing in on a retread of the original game though.
"Most gamers?" Where do you get that? On top of that, this series is getting very high reviews from critics and private users. In a comprehensive poll I linked a few weeks back, with thousands of participants, over 85% approved of the changes from OG.
You're not "forced to 'pay'" you don't have to play this new game and OG is readily available for like $5. And again, the game areas themselves are so scaled up that developing them is a huge undertaking. Like Midgar. You think that should merely have been an area in a contiguous game world where that's just one small part of it? You think it should be smaller? Then why bother going to the trouble of rendering this world in modern 3D? If this doesn't have the grand scope, what is the point of revisiting this now?
You have this asinine theory that this very intricate game that clearly respects the source material, is a shameless cashgrab...which, again, you yourself keep buying in on.
Imagine if they were to release a game the scale of what the first two of the trilogy are shaping it up to be, in one game. For anything near typical pricing for triple A releases. That would be a stupid high amount of bang for your buck. And they'd probably still be working on releasing it. We'd probably wind up with another FFXV where we were probably sitting on potentially the best game ever made, but it just couldn't be developed. And so it winds up kinda sucking.
Are you listening to anything I'm saying? This IS the cash grab.
Seriously I don't know why I bother. Square Enix could literally send someone to rob your house and you'd still defend them...
The delusion here is immense.
Yes, I am, and, you're wrong. These games are a ton of content that comes from people that clearly care about the source material.
Cool story, but I have criticized aspects of both Remake and Rebirth on these boards and in several of the currently active threads. I am pushing back on wrongheaded comments or even egregious lies about this project that you and a few others keep perpetuating.