FFVII Remake (I mean a REAL Remake)

[HelmutSchluckebierVomKahlenAsten]

What do you think? Will Squenix ever release a real Remake which stays true to the original (gameplay AND storywise)?

[Minute-globe]

you WILL play ever crisis, you WILL empty your entire bank account into it

[mdesaleah]

The remake was the mods we made along the way........

[Zaris]

So far it is a real remake. Part 1 had the exact same mainstory locations (2 reactor bombings, meeting Aerith, wall market, platefall, shinra HQ, escape).

Part 2 will have also the same locations (Kalm - Junon - Costa de Sol - Corel - Gold Saucer - Nibelheim - Rockettown - Temple - Forgotten City).

The reworked elements are in general great, a deeper combat system with parry, dodge, weaknesses while in the original game you just needed to outgrind your enemies (minus the 2 superbosses). The added side content helps to build character and flesh out the story which was very bland in the original. It's also great that they turned some enemies in mini bosses like the hell house and it's representation.

The only real "new" stuff is the time travel Sephiroth / Whisper crap which could have been left out but on the plus side the developers could add Sephiroth as "endboss" of Remake Part 1 which would've ended otherwise anticlimatic with Rufus and the street bot which weren't exactly endboss material and in combination with the statement that the Remake will be canon to advent children we can at least guess that all these time travel stuff get resolved and removed at the end of Part 3 (i guess the only thing left will be a parallel universe with Zack&Aerith alive while in this universe they will stay dead).

[mdesaleah]

^Its about the journey, not the destination. You're in denial.

They can keep the general story beats, but when they are done THIS badly, and the major details around them are "sequel" material then its not a real remake. You don't just end a game with TIME knowledge of the future that was never there before, and then claim to be the same story

They can't even kill Aerith right. They have to make it a Marvel/KH fanservice moment and giant distraction setpiece where they bring her ghost/illusion to fight with Cloud againt 3 versions of a final boss.

Somber moment? Whats that? We needed more explosions.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

game with TIME knowledge of the future that was never there before, and then claim to be the same story

Ui Denial, if that is your only "argument" then you will have a bad time in real discussions without delivering any facts.

I just explained in a logical sense that about 99% of the Remake are true to the original minus the 1% time travel bull crap i even pointed out and i also said i don't really like / wasn't necessary. You either didn't read my post or are just trolling and therefore you get reported for spam / trolling. Thanks.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Zaris:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

game with TIME knowledge of the future that was never there before, and then claim to be the same story

Ui Denial, if that is your only "argument" then you will have a bad time in real discussions without delivering any facts.

I just explained in a logical sense that about 99% of the Remake are true to the original minus the 1% time travel bull crap i even pointed out and i also said i don't really like / wasn't necessary. You either didn't read my post or are just trolling and therefore you get reported for spam / trolling. Thanks.

And you clearly didn't read mine, and it shows.

The fact that they change major scenes for the sake of keeping a mystery box going is enough to say this remake does not accurately represent the original.

If they kept the actual same story, then there'd be no issue. But claiming "its still good, its still good", as the story train runs off the rails is not accurate to a good remake.

[Jonarok]

Yes, for the centenary it is planned a new remake.
The 31 January 2107 on Playstation 17

Jokes apart i hope yes.
The remake is nice, but there are still "BUT" since it's incomplete game

[Starscream]

Hopefully some day using AI, the already existing assets and good editing we'll see mods that do just that.

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

They can't even kill Aerith right. They have to make it a Marvel/KH fanservice moment and giant distraction setpiece where they bring her ghost/illusion to fight with Cloud againt 3 versions of a final boss.

Somber moment? Whats that? We needed more explosions.

They did WHAT with Aerith????????

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by WildStar:

Hopefully some day using AI, the already existing assets and good editing we'll see mods that do just that.

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

They can't even kill Aerith right. They have to make it a Marvel/KH fanservice moment and giant distraction setpiece where they bring her ghost/illusion to fight with Cloud againt 3 versions of a final boss.

Somber moment? Whats that? We needed more explosions.

They did WHAT with Aerith????????

Oh yeah. No impact at all since she is just a force ghost for Cloud now. They try to play it off as a Cloud delusion, but Red senses her presence too. She even tells Cloud she'll save the day later. So can't even have suspense there either.

So, she both dies but it has absolutely no emotional impact. No water funeral scene either.

[i know kung fu]

get 7th heaven+ff7 steam original if you wanna play og with hq models and ai upscale art

[Patriot]

Originally posted by HelmutSchluckebierVomKahlenAsten:

What do you think? Will Squenix ever release a real Remake which stays true to the original (gameplay AND storywise)?

The answer is no. There was a graphics mod I used a long time ago that made the game a lot better, but the creators of the original have no interest in recreating it for modern systems. Which is unfortunate. I find the writing in the re-make subpar, and really wish they implemented a proper turn based system. They could have done it and actually let you choose between realtime and turn based. "classic" isn't that.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Patriot:

Originally posted by HelmutSchluckebierVomKahlenAsten:

What do you think? Will Squenix ever release a real Remake which stays true to the original (gameplay AND storywise)?

The answer is no. There was a graphics mod I used a long time ago that made the game a lot better, but the creators of the original have no interest in recreating it for modern systems. Which is unfortunate. I find the writing in the re-make subpar, and really wish they implemented a proper turn based system. They could have done it and actually let you choose between realtime and turn based. "classic" isn't that.

They honestly could have just used Ever Crisis overworld art style if they wanted to keep it simple and less budget heavy.

That game is trash, but its cutscene artstyle is on point.

[Starscream]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by WildStar:

Hopefully some day using AI, the already existing assets and good editing we'll see mods that do just that.

They did WHAT with Aerith????????

Oh yeah. No impact at all since she is just a force ghost for Cloud now. They try to play it off as a Cloud delusion, but Red senses her presence too. She even tells Cloud she'll save the day later. So can't even have suspense there either.

So, she both dies but it has absolutely no emotional impact. No water funeral scene either.

This is actually kind of depressing to hear. Sounds like some kind of MCU/Disney Star Wars level of goofiness.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by WildStar:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Oh yeah. No impact at all since she is just a force ghost for Cloud now. They try to play it off as a Cloud delusion, but Red senses her presence too. She even tells Cloud she'll save the day later. So can't even have suspense there either.

So, she both dies but it has absolutely no emotional impact. No water funeral scene either.

This is actually kind of depressing to hear. Sounds like some kind of MCU/Disney Star Wars level of goofiness.

Here's the proof. (they also ruined Zack as he somehow STILL talks about having Soldier honor................you know.........................the company that successfully killed him before....... and uses their military to take over Wutai and is killing the planet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-nszmX3zl4

[Starscream]

Originally posted by i know kung fu:

get 7th heaven+ff7 steam original if you wanna play og with hq models and ai upscale art

I do and with tons of mods including one that has voice acting.