Why can't it be like a Resident Evil remake?

[Plantman Knows Where Plants Grow]

Essentially this is a completely different game from VII. It's so drastically different it's like if Need for Speed was remade into a board game-it still has cars and racing but it's all about dice rolls instead of actually racing cars. That's basically this game it simulates FF7 while not actually being FF7.

[Ice-Nine]

Nguyên văn bởi Weltall8000:

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

It's what you said:



You don't get to decide how "we" colloquially understand the term in gaming. You can only describe how "you" personally choose to misunderstand it. Some people may agree with you. But that doesn't make it the colloquial definition for "we."

So, you think that the dictionary entries of the word are wrong and my personal opinion?

Dictionary entry for remake:
"make (something) again or differently"

You're arguing that we should use some other definition than what the dictionary says, and that everyone agrees with you.

[Taka]

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

Nguyên văn bởi Xelane:

In other words: "remake" usually refers to the game being remade, while in this case, it refers to the story being remade.

Story revisions have always been part of remakes. Forever. You're trying to create a distinction where none exists.

So again, this is just an example of people choosing to ignore what the word means, become hyper-focused on one specific and narrow example of that word, and then assume everyone else agrees with them.

In other words: exactly what I said before.

by his logic the RE4 remake is also trash because they changed the story and lore of the original quite a bit. I.E. ramone salazar.

[Xelane]

Nguyên văn bởi Ecks:

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

Story revisions have always been part of remakes. Forever. You're trying to create a distinction where none exists.

So again, this is just an example of people choosing to ignore what the word means, become hyper-focused on one specific and narrow example of that word, and then assume everyone else agrees with them.

In other words: exactly what I said before.

by his logic the RE4 remake is also trash because they changed the story and lore of the original quite a bit. I.E. ramone salazar.

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Nowhere in my comment did I make a statement on how the quality of the game is impacted by this distinction.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Edit: I don't understand why this is such a point of contention. As far as I am aware, all Ice-Nine was saying was that the title was chosen because of a plot element in the game and is a sort of play-on-words.

Somehow, the current topic has turned into a discussion about the proper connotation for the word, "remake." It's completely beside the point.

[Ice-Nine]

Nguyên văn bởi Xelane:

Nguyên văn bởi Ecks:

by his logic the RE4 remake is also trash because they changed the story and lore of the original quite a bit. I.E. ramone salazar.

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Nowhere in my comment did I make a statement on how the quality of the game is impacted by this distinction.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Edit: I don't understand why this is such a point of contention. As far as I am aware, all Ice-Nine was saying was that the title was chosen because of a plot element in the game and is a sort of play-on-words.

Somehow, the current topic has turned into a discussion about the proper connotation for the word, "remake." It's completely beside the point.

Nah, it's not a play on words. It's just a remake.

If people want it to be a different kind of remake, that's their opinion and they have a right to it. But saying it's not a remake is just silliness for no reason.

[Weltall8000]

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

Nguyên văn bởi Weltall8000:

So, you think that the dictionary entries of the word are wrong and my personal opinion?

Dictionary entry for remake:
"make (something) again or differently"

You're arguing that we should use some other definition than what the dictionary says, and that everyone agrees with you.

Read on:

re·make
verb
make (something) again or differently.
"the bed would be more comfortable if it were remade"

noun
a movie or piece of music that has been filmed or recorded again and rereleased.
"a remake of the classic horror tale, “Frankenstein”"

So, like I said.

[Ice-Nine]

Nguyên văn bởi Weltall8000:

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

Dictionary entry for remake:
"make (something) again or differently"

You're arguing that we should use some other definition than what the dictionary says, and that everyone agrees with you.

Read on:

re·make
verb
make (something) again or differently.
"the bed would be more comfortable if it were remade"

noun
a movie or piece of music that has been filmed or recorded again and rereleased.
"a remake of the classic horror tale, “Frankenstein”"

So, like I said.

So you agree that FF7:R is a remake. Well done. Glad we finally got there together.

[Weltall8000]

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

Nguyên văn bởi Weltall8000:

Read on:



So, like I said.

So you agree that FF7:R is a remake. Well done. Glad we finally got there together.

You...haven't really been following along, have you?

[Call Sign: Raven]

Nguyên văn bởi Weltall8000:

Nguyên văn bởi Ice-Nine:

So you agree that FF7:R is a remake. Well done. Glad we finally got there together.

You...haven't really been following along, have you?

Have you?

[Taka]

I think many people think that a remake means only the graphics and performance is allowed to be remade, the battle system, base gameplay and story is off-limits.

[Katitoff]

Nguyên văn bởi Ecks:

I think many people think that a remake means only the graphics and performance is allowed to be remade, the battle system, base gameplay and story is off-limits.

People forgot what that definition means, because of all the lazy hd remasters and inability to tell the two apart.

[Spawn]

I feel, this is my opinion granted, but I feel the word Remake itself is kinda hard to justify knowing certain story elements. Isn't it more of a Remake AND a sequel at the same time?

[J03L]

I enjoy the game for what it is but I do agree that this game shouldn't be called a remake, it's more a sequel. Yakuza Kiwami is a good example of a Remake, building the game from the ground up but keeping faithful to the original game and story while adding new content.

[Plantman Knows Where Plants Grow]

HAHAHAHA Defend it all you want but there will never be a follow up in the intended trilogy because this game is a commercial failure which means YOU'RE ALL WRONG even if you have some tiny illusions of being right Elden Ring is the modern action RPG and this is some old school Kingdom Hearts junk everyone saw in 1994.

[Joohnyboyy]

If it was turn-based I wouldn't buy it rofl. Boring way of making a combat system, this is WAY better. Nostalgia is strong OP. Many criticisms on this game are fair, but the combat isn't one of them. It's just plain better this way and I'm glad they changed it.

Nguyên văn bởi Plantman Knows Where Plants Grow:

HAHAHAHA Defend it all you want but there will never be a follow up in the intended trilogy because this game is a commercial failure which means YOU'RE ALL WRONG even if you have some tiny illusions of being right Elden Ring is the modern action RPG and this is some old school Kingdom Hearts junk everyone saw in 1994.

Commercial failure LOL... denial is strong in this one.

[Mako]

Nguyên văn bởi Ness:

The fans of the original continually assert that the "remake" is not FF7, while those for whom FF7 "remake" is likely their first FF7-related narrative don't want to be told that this game that they like isn't what its title says it is.

Your generalization/assumption is once again wrong and all follow up points are also wrong. Have a nice day, sir.