43% off and still $40??? Greedy publishing companies

[Gadzooks]

Hope the executives at square fail hard with strategies like this,so that the parts of the studio making good games can get back to selling them at reasonable prices to the larger player base.

So happy they got rid of all those other IP's earlier in the year so that any remakes or remasters dont end up being stuck with such horrible pricing.

[ace]

We had discussions about this before here. It never ends peacefully.
I agree, though, the game is very expensive, IN MY OPINION.
I waited a full year to get the game cheaper on Epic Games and i got this week.
It's a damn good game, very fun and one of my favorite Square Enix games, but Square never uses regional pricing in Brazil, so their games are always expensive. I just wait for a while and buy them when i can. Next one will be Crisis Core Reunion.

[Xengre]

Have you tried... I don't know... comparing the price to any other game that includes DLC? I wonder if you will still be able to delete the thread after you realize this...

[Gadzooks]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Have you tried... I don't know... comparing the price to any other game that includes DLC? I wonder if you will still be able to delete the thread after you realize this...

Lets see

I just bought Farcry 6, all FOUR DLCs
For less than the cost of this game.

Farcry 6 is a newer game, and yet, it still had a better sale and deal overall.

It really does come down to overly greedy squaresoft. All companies are greedy, square is just more so.

[Sinnoth]

It's a 35 hour long hallway simulator that desperately wants to be Kingdom hearts. Get it when it's under 20.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Have you tried... I don't know... comparing the price to any other game that includes DLC? I wonder if you will still be able to delete the thread after you realize this...

Lets see

I just bought Farcry 6, all FOUR DLCs
For less than the cost of this game.

Farcry 6 is a newer game, and yet, it still had a better sale and deal overall.

It really does come down to overly greedy squaresoft. All companies are greedy, square is just more so.

Yeah because its 67% off right now on Ubisoft store and 50% on Epic store while this is 43% off. What kind of argument are you even trying to make? Not all games handle DLC equally, either. Borderlands games feature absolutely massive DLC and eventually bundle it together in a single cheap package. Witcher 3 offered two large DLC for completely free. Then you got games like Code Vein or Dark Souls franchise that price DLC very high to the point of being notoriously absurd (especially the infamous Code Vein hyper priced despite super miniature sized 5 minutes DLCs).

Square charging base price + a mere $10 for bundled DLC (aside from a single location, Europe which no one knows why its priced that way there) puts them squarely in line with every other developer. What you're claiming is every developer, period, is pricing ridiculously. Not a argument I'd try to get behind if I were you...

[Good Night Owl]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

Lets see

I just bought Farcry 6, all FOUR DLCs
For less than the cost of this game.

Farcry 6 is a newer game, and yet, it still had a better sale and deal overall.

It really does come down to overly greedy squaresoft. All companies are greedy, square is just more so.

Yeah because its 67% off right now on Ubisoft store and 50% on Epic store while this is 43% off. What kind of argument are you even trying to make? Not all games handle DLC equally, either. Borderlands games feature absolutely massive DLC and eventually bundle it together in a single cheap package. Witcher 3 offered two large DLC for completely free. Then you got games like Code Vein or Dark Souls franchise that price DLC very high to the point of being notoriously absurd (especially the infamous Code Vein hyper priced despite super miniature sized 5 minutes DLCs).

Square charging base price + a mere $10 for bundled DLC (aside from a single location, Europe which no one knows why its priced that way there) puts them squarely in line with every other developer. What you're claiming is every developer, period, is pricing ridiculously. Not a argument I'd try to get behind if I were you...

The point he's trying to make is that the base price is too expensive, and since the sale percentage is based off that price, the sale price isn't what it should be. That's the point that is ultimately being made here.

The comparison with other games was just comparing how greedy square is compared to other companies.

[Obiwan]

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Have you tried... I don't know... comparing the price to any other game that includes DLC? I wonder if you will still be able to delete the thread after you realize this...

Lets see

I just bought Farcry 6, all FOUR DLCs
For less than the cost of this game.

Farcry 6 is a newer game, and yet, it still had a better sale and deal overall.

It really does come down to overly greedy squaresoft. All companies are greedy, square is just more so.

respectfully comparing this to FarCry 6 is like comparing a 458 to a Civic .... I LOVE Far Cry series and I own 6 but even I will not be daft enough to compare the 2 - the love and detail and voiume of work in this comparatively is incomparable.

Ubi sell it cheap because they MADE IT cheap.

[Jeff4u]

Originally posted by P. Quincy T.:

A possible reason the base price is so high is they are aware of how popular steam sales are, so they don't want to lose revenue. If we had data on how many people actually bought this at full price of $70, which I agree is too high, that would help shed light on their reasoning for $70. It's much cheaper on Epic is my understanding, maybe because Epic does fewer and smaller sales?

Epic cheaper because it charges publisher lesser sales fee than Stream. This game also based on Unreal engine, probably charges less engine fee as well.

This is 2-year old game, if it is available in PC at Day 1 with playstation, that may not be so ugly. Now, it is only a poor console port with insane price.

[ace]

Originally posted by P. Quincy T.:

A possible reason the base price is so high is they are aware of how popular steam sales are, so they don't want to lose revenue. If we had data on how many people actually bought this at full price of $70, which I agree is too high, that would help shed light on their reasoning for $70. It's much cheaper on Epic is my understanding, maybe because Epic does fewer and smaller sales?

It's cheaper on EGS because they're handing out discount coupons. The price is the same but the coupon gives you 25% of discount in any game there. Forspoken, another game from Square Enix, is 70 dollars too, so they're just doing what Sony (and Microsoft now) are doing. They'll probably do this with their next big AAA games.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

The point he's trying to make is that the base price is too expensive, and since the sale percentage is based off that price, the sale price isn't what it should be. That's the point that is ultimately being made here.

The comparison with other games was just comparing how greedy square is compared to other companies.

Yeah? The point I was trying to make is they didn't actually look at the prices of other games because if they did they would realize their argument was invalid from the start.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is $69.99 on Steam at base price and $39.89 after discount of 43%.

By comparison...

Far Cry 6 Deluxe is $79.99 (more expensive) at normal price and $26.40 after discount with a BIGGER discount of 67% off vs 43% from FF7R.

Far Cry 6 Game of the Year (as we don't know which version he bought and I'm not going to figure out their DLC configurations) is $119.99 at base price... geez and with a 60% discount currently $48.00.

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/far-cry/far-cry-6/buy

In both cases OP is wrong and if he compared even with his own example he would see that he is wrong. No idea how you both missed this but you're simply mistaken. Square Enix has charged a price totally in line with other developers for this game at a base price of $59.99 + $10 for the included Intergrade DLC. There are some outliers in a few regions like Europe that are another roughly $10 for some reason which IS odd (and very possibly has a legitimate reason for but we simply don't know), but most are being charged normal pricing.

[Jeff4u]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

The point he's trying to make is that the base price is too expensive, and since the sale percentage is based off that price, the sale price isn't what it should be. That's the point that is ultimately being made here.

The comparison with other games was just comparing how greedy square is compared to other companies.

Yeah? The point I was trying to make is they didn't actually look at the prices of other games because if they did they would realize their argument was invalid from the start.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is $69.99 on Steam at base price and $39.89 after discount of 43%.

By comparison...

Far Cry 6 Deluxe is $79.99 (more expensive) at normal price and $26.40 after discount with a BIGGER discount of 67% off vs 43% from FF7R.

Far Cry 6 Game of the Year (as we don't know which version he bought and I'm not going to figure out their DLC configurations) is $119.99 at base price... geez and with a 60% discount currently $48.00.

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/far-cry/far-cry-6/buy

In both cases OP is wrong and if he compared even with his own example he would see that he is wrong. No idea how you both missed this but you're simply mistaken. Square Enix has charged a price totally in line with other developers for this game at a base price of $59.99 + $10 for the included Intergrade DLC. There are some outliers in a few regions like Europe that are another roughly $10 for some reason which IS odd (and very possibly has a legitimate reason for but we simply don't know), but most are being charged normal pricing.

In my region, the discounted price of FF7R:
- same to the discounted price Far Cry 6 Game of the Year. Far cry 6 has much more expansions. Base Far Cry 6 just 45% of discounted FF7R
- same to full price of Elden Ring

Ubisoft also has 20% more off if you get ubisoft points or code for $10 off.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by P. Quincy T.:

@Xengre, you often seem to be trying to prove people wrong (e.g. "In both cases OP is wrong. . ." etc.) as do a few other posters on here. I think it's better to just share your viewpoint and leave it at that. Just my 2 cents for whatever they're worth.

I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong. The issue is they're simply complaining about something that they don't have any need to complain about and we get like 20 of these threads a week, literally. It's actually become ridiculous for most people who are active and actually trying to help or discuss the game on these forums.

Its also pretty bad to complain about a price being something its not because they didn't even bother to double check their numbers. Its literally an issue of Square Enix charges X price for a game, every other dev charges same X price, but omg Square Enix is evil greedy monsters. This is actually totally absurd and problematic behavior. They're usually making these threads to harass and stir up trouble, too, which makes it worse.

I mean, are you just going to be like "Yeah, I totally agree. You're right!" when they're factually wrong and also trying to cause fake drama?... I do find it interesting your making this claim about me considering your posting behavior on these forums, though... Not that I care, you're free to have your own opinion regardless.

Originally posted by Jeff4u:

In my region, the discounted price of FF7R:
- same to the discounted price Far Cry 6 Game of the Year. Far cry 6 has much more expansions. Base Far Cry 6 just 45% of discounted FF7R
- same to full price of Elden Ring

Ubisoft also has 20% more off if you get ubisoft points or code for $10 off.

That's a matter of who has the bigger sales though which is a different topic entirely from base price cost, tbh. I have no real comment on that aside from I know FF7R has been selling strong and they're often one of the stricter ones when it comes to sales at times so I'm not surprised its not a bigger sale when its still doing so well for now.

[Obiwan]

Originally posted by P. Quincy T.:

Yeah I'm saying I've come to realize there's no point in trying to prove others wrong in reading all these threads and the different hills people are so stubbornly standing on. It's useful to hear other people's viewpoints though.

says alot my post was overlooked because it's the most objective in here and isn't speculation - it is fact.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Obiwan:

Originally posted by P. Quincy T.:

Yeah I'm saying I've come to realize there's no point in trying to prove others wrong in reading all these threads and the different hills people are so stubbornly standing on. It's useful to hear other people's viewpoints though.

says alot my post was overlooked because it's the most objective in here and isn't speculation - it is fact.

Yeah, did hear FC6 was rough. Haven't played since 2, myself. If I were to ever get it on sale would you say its main issue is technical state? Repetitive content? Or something else? I agree, its clear SE took the FF7R as a serious labor of love. Too bad most of the famous names plan to retire after this project. Gotta wonder what will happen with future titles.

[Moonwitch]

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Have you tried... I don't know... comparing the price to any other game that includes DLC? I wonder if you will still be able to delete the thread after you realize this...

Lets see

I just bought Farcry 6, all FOUR DLCs
For less than the cost of this game.

Farcry 6 is a newer game, and yet, it still had a better sale and deal overall.

It really does come down to overly greedy squaresoft. All companies are greedy, square is just more so.

Farcry 6 was a failure, GOTY edition despite not winning anything.