Rebirth will be a PS5 exclusive.

[Vagrant]

I guess it's time to wait even more for the next part.

[Elazul]

引用自 Lutrian：

Statements from Sony suggests FF VII: Rebirth may never come out on PC. They claim that the PS5 is the only platform where the SSD speeds would be satisfactory to run the game. Hopefully Sony/Square-Enix will clarify this, unless their intentions is to require we all buy PS5s to finish the game.

The PS5 isn't special it's the equivalent to a mid-ranged PC. Heck the system I'm typing this reply on has an nvme ssd on it that is larger/faster than the one on the PS5. What the PS5 does have going for it is marketing. If anything they'll get a timed exclusive because marketing. That simple.

[Rhapsody]

引用自 Elazul：

引用自 Lutrian：

Statements from Sony suggests FF VII: Rebirth may never come out on PC. They claim that the PS5 is the only platform where the SSD speeds would be satisfactory to run the game. Hopefully Sony/Square-Enix will clarify this, unless their intentions is to require we all buy PS5s to finish the game.

The PS5 isn't special it's the equivalent to a mid-ranged PC. Heck the system I'm typing this reply on has an nvme ssd on it that is larger/faster than the one on the PS5. What the PS5 does have going for it is marketing. If anything they'll get a timed exclusive because marketing. That simple.

Pretty much this.

Sony is full of bs in this regard, just like most corporations. They are only interested in promoting their platform. You don't need to believe for a second that any PlayStation has something that PC cannot.

[Vagrant]

I think the most annoying part of waiting longer is simply avoiding any spoilers for 1 whole year. Yeah, sad excuse since it's FF7 and 99% of the planet knows what's going to happen but still...

[Tr0w]

引用自 Mrpoke：

All SE has to do is look at the numbers. Steam Spy estimates 200k-500k owners (I know it's a huge estimate lmao). And that doesn't even account for the year long Epic Games exclusivity, which brought in a lot of numbers. They have enough manpower to put this on pc, and it's a lot easier to do since it's on Unreal.

Those numbers are really poor compared to Playstation numbers, if they want big numbers on PC they have to do day and date but Sony won't let that happen. I mean look at Cyberpunk and Elden Ring, they sold more on PC than on Playstation or Xbox.

[Pyro3000]

引用自 Vagrant：

I think the most annoying part of waiting longer is simply avoiding any spoilers for 1 whole year. Yeah, sad excuse since it's FF7 and 99% of the planet knows what's going to happen but still...

I don't think it's that sad of an excuse. There are tons of decades old games that I've managed to avoid spoilers for because I do plan to get to them eventually. With hundreds of games, it's only natural that there will be some people haven't played.

For FFVII, I actually have found that I've forgotten nearly everything about the original. I thought the remake was adding a lot of new locations only to replay the original and find that places like the construction zone with the palm shaped cranes existed already, but when I was replaying it, all I remembered was the stupid log that looks like it could be on one level of terrain, but is actually on another. Then there are a bunch of dialogue segments I didn't remember existing, and the entire Shinra headquarters. I'd forgotten so many details I honestly started questioning if I had ever really played the original. So, the remake still manages to be exciting to me plot-wise because I've forgotten so much of it.

But, with releases so far apart, I feel like I should just replay the original instead of waiting, and I wish I felt more patient about it.

[Sauriel]

Imagine one day technology (and marketing schemes) go so fast it will require high range pc's.

[Pyro3000]

引用自 Sauriel：

Imagine one day technology (and marketing schemes) go so fast it will require high range pc's.

We won't see that happen outside of simulation games. Consoles have a major development advantage by being standardized. The dev knows exactly what hardware they're dealing with and exactly what load is still free from other system applications. A PS5 doesn't come with the issue of "players are going to try to run 30 chrome tabs in the background while streaming to friends on discord". Then on top of that, PC components are absurdly overpriced now.

[Tr0w]

引用自 Pyro3000：

引用自 Sauriel：

Imagine one day technology (and marketing schemes) go so fast it will require high range pc's.

We won't see that happen outside of simulation games. Consoles have a major development advantage by being standardized. The dev knows exactly what hardware they're dealing with and exactly what load is still free from other system applications. A PS5 doesn't come with the issue of "players are going to try to run 30 chrome tabs in the background while streaming to friends on discord". Then on top of that, PC components are absurdly overpriced now.

Depends, right now is probably the best time for anyone wanting an RTX 3080 or 90 due to the miners flooding the used market, there are 3080s going for 500-600 quid on Ebay atm vs the 900-1k+ that retailers are asking for.

[Pyro3000]

引用自 Tr0w：

引用自 Pyro3000：

We won't see that happen outside of simulation games. Consoles have a major development advantage by being standardized. The dev knows exactly what hardware they're dealing with and exactly what load is still free from other system applications. A PS5 doesn't come with the issue of "players are going to try to run 30 chrome tabs in the background while streaming to friends on discord". Then on top of that, PC components are absurdly overpriced now.

Depends, right now is probably the best time for anyone wanting an RTX 3080 or 90 due to the miners flooding the used market, there are 3080s going for 500-600 quid on Ebay atm vs the 900-1k+ that retailers are asking for.

As in graphics cards the miners used? There's no way I'd ever want to touch hardware that's gone through what they put them through. better off with a new 2060 than a burnt up 3080.

[Tr0w]

引用自 Pyro3000：

引用自 Tr0w：

Depends, right now is probably the best time for anyone wanting an RTX 3080 or 90 due to the miners flooding the used market, there are 3080s going for 500-600 quid on Ebay atm vs the 900-1k+ that retailers are asking for.

As in graphics cards the miners used? There's no way I'd ever want to touch hardware that's gone through what they put them through. better off with a new 2060 than a burnt up 3080.

Either way, once the industrial scale miners in Asia start flooding the Western market with their cards it should force hefty price drops. Plus it's also turned out the GPU shortage was artificial bs with AIBs furious with Nvidia wanting to release the 4000 series this year as their warehouses are full of 3000 series stock they say they need time to get rid of first.

[Edifier]

引用自 Pyro3000：

As in graphics cards the miners used? There's no way I'd ever want to touch hardware that's gone through what they put them through. better off with a new 2060 than a burnt up 3080.

The biggest Tech channel on Youtube being Linus Tech Tips have tested this and the damage done to the cards are so small that you won't notice a difference unless you run unlimited FPS in all games. Even then it was like maybe 5 or 10 FPS or so when the FPS where up in 400+.

So no a 2060 would not perform better than a 3080 card that's been used for mining. Besides miners might even be under volting the cards so that they are not worked so hard and can be used for longer.

[Codester]

引用自 Lutrian：

Statements from Sony suggests FF VII: Rebirth may never come out on PC. They claim that the PS5 is the only platform where the SSD speeds would be satisfactory to run the game. Hopefully Sony/Square-Enix will clarify this, unless their intentions is to require we all buy PS5s to finish the game.

lol what?
The Sony ssd is already only Mid at Best.

[forumcrybaby]

引用自 Edifier：

引用自 オルニティア・トライ：

The reason is because of the technical features of the PS5 for FF7 Rebirth.
It's not because of the feral assumptions others will throw out.

I'm not buying that. A good PC is stronger than a PS5 in every single way.

consoles are for little kids and casual gamers. Real gamers use the PC. Real gamers can afford to own a PC. Last console I bought was just to play the FF7 remake then once I finished the console ended up in a box somewhere in the attic or something but I don't really care here it is because I am now back up to the PC. I mean wouldn't the initial cash return be more if it immediately went to PC? Aren't more FF7 fans now mids 30s or older who own PCs? Anyone I know who owns a console is my 15 year old cousin and some kid at work who is like 20 who only plays Madden...As someone who grew up on console it just can't compete with PC.

[Tr0w]

引用自 Codester：

引用自 Lutrian：

Statements from Sony suggests FF VII: Rebirth may never come out on PC. They claim that the PS5 is the only platform where the SSD speeds would be satisfactory to run the game. Hopefully Sony/Square-Enix will clarify this, unless their intentions is to require we all buy PS5s to finish the game.

lol what?
The Sony ssd is already only Mid at Best.

It's muh Cell all over again lmfao

[Pyro3000]

引用自 beers：

引用自 Edifier：

I'm not buying that. A good PC is stronger than a PS5 in every single way.

consoles are for little kids and casual gamers. Real gamers use the PC. Real gamers can afford to own a PC. Last console I bought was just to play the FF7 remake then once I finished the console ended up in a box somewhere in the attic or something but I don't really care here it is because I am now back up to the PC. I mean wouldn't the initial cash return be more if it immediately went to PC? Aren't more FF7 fans now mids 30s or older who own PCs? Anyone I know who owns a console is my 15 year old cousin and some kid at work who is like 20 who only plays Madden...As someone who grew up on console it just can't compete with PC.

Eh, majority of people I know that played FFVII in their youth either doesn't play video games at all anymore, or just has a Nintendo Switch. There's a small group that is chasing after a PS5, but I'm the last person I know that plays on PC at all aside from the people I've met through PC gaming specifically.