hell house is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

[SeñorJeff]

i just want to see the story and this poorly designed fight is stopping me

[StormEye]

引用自 Ehrmantraut：

OH yeah. and SOMEHOW Aerith keeps dying with planet protection on??? i dont get it

That only protects against physical damage, iirc.

If you see a character getting consumed by the boss, just cast opposite element for free damage. Boss is being stupid by wasting time doing all the sucking in motion and leaving itself wide open for free damage, If it was designed to be hard, it would do super quick suck in motion, followed up with quick dash towards remaining target to interrupt magic then kill, but devs put in this "hey hit me" moment to exploit.

[SQUARE-SOFT]

this is the first time reading anything about the game. i just hacked at HH for an hour and a half with cloud the first time on normal and got to 1% on hard with aerith dead then got hit with some BS attack idk what it was.
i stopped using asses after i did chaunecy''s research and resolved to just hack and pummel everything to death with cloud and tifa.
worked on normal -_-

[Nauct]

My first time playing through on hard mode this was the hardest boss for sure.

Once you dodge a lot of its' attacks it enters pressured state, so if you have ATB on Cloud and synergy on Aerith, you do two focused thrusts and it's basically staggered. Do Infinity's Edge etc.
While it's in the air you can just attack with Aerith, cast magic, soul drain, etc. A lot of it's attacks you can just parry with Cloud. Gotta dodge the charge and the fire exhaust move.

Fire weak to Blizzard
Blizzard weak to Fire (Ice is light blue)
Thunder weak to Wind (Thunder is dark blue)
Wind weak to Thunder

Easy once you get the hang of it, annoying AF while learning

[SQUARE-SOFT]

i have no problem fighting it until it starts spamming heavenly sword and barrier. Also, since on hard, mp is limited with no items so im guessing you have to save it until the end. and wtf do my attacks bounce off BEFORE it uses barrier??? So much CHEESE...
its easy to get stagger in phase 1 at which point i hit it with IE and Ray of judgement to get it at half hp in like 2 minutes. 2nd phase i just use a summon and done in like 1 minute. Final phase is the only one but now that i know about the elemental counter thing it should be alot easier. i just need to stop heavenly sword from killing my bot.
BTW anyone know if breach cancels god mode barrier?

[Nauct]

引用自 Ehrmantraut：

i have no problem fighting it until it starts spamming heavenly sword and barrier. Also, since on hard, mp is limited with no items so im guessing you have to save it until the end. and wtf do my attacks bounce off BEFORE it uses barrier??? So much CHEESE

I use elemental with say lightning on Cloud, then have Aerith with synergy. So you get two elements for free. If you have refocus on Cloud you get so much ATB, it's so many free spells for Aerith. If you're low on mana you don't have to hit it with a spell, you can wait until it switches, you can build ATB, buff, auto attack etc.
If your attacks are bouncing you're probably same element.
I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up getting the dresses and then I forgot to do the arena battles for the manuscripts so I did the hell house like 5 times on hard last few days lmao

[SQUARE-SOFT]

lol i also went elemental lightning on cloud first chance i got in my first playthrough. havnt changed it since :p
Cloud with lightning elemental the only time he does full damage is for 3 seconds after heavenly sword but even if i use my limit he uses god mode during the animation and cancles the damage...
ive only tried it once on hard so far but the fight took like an hour before i got him low and died from some attack i hadnt seen , maybe my frames dropped or something but it looked weird -_-
No problems getting atb
I ran out of mp just healing my bot over and over
but i dont even need it with my build on cloud.
i matched parry with absorb so i heal as i parry and i use soul siphon enemy skill to heal. ofc if im not controlling cloud he doesnt use it though...

[Nauct]

引用自 Ehrmantraut：

lol i also went elemental lightning on cloud first chance i got in my first playthrough. havnt changed it since :p
Cloud with lightning elemental the only time he does full damage is for 3 seconds after heavenly sword but even if i use my limit he uses god mode during the animation and cancles the damage...
ive only tried it once on hard so far.
No problems getting atb
I ran out of mp just healing my bot over and over
but i dont even need it with my build on cloud.
i matched parry with absorb so i heal as i parry and i use soul siphon enemy skill to heal

If you're running out of mana, might wanna check the different weapons. I was using the weapon with 50% mana regeneration. Pretty hard for Aerith to run out of mana with that. I'm not sure if it's on the same weapon, but there's "trade off", where you get MP when you take a big hit

[Bagheadt]

noooobs muhahahaha

[SQUARE-SOFT]

引用自 Baghead：

noooobs muhahahaha

Sry your life is so pathetic that putting people down over video games gives you pride
also beat it on my second try so nothing to brag about really. i did it without knowing any of this so you probably suck worse than me anyway

[Bagheadt]

引用自 Ehrmantraut：

引用自 Baghead：

noooobs muhahahaha

Sry your life is so pathetic that putting people down over video games gives you pride
also beat it on my second try so nothing to brag about really. i did it without knowing any of this so you probably suck worse than me anyway

I'm just goofing around man, i'm kidding.

[SQUARE-SOFT]

o ok now i get it

[Theroux]

Hell House got pretty obnoxious towards the end because it's immune to damage 95% of the time and Cloud can't even attack it, thus limiting his ATB. Eligor was pretty similar during the last 20% because it couldn't be staggered and kept hitting like a truck. Rufus was obnoxious but not strong enough to be an issue. Jenova was interesting but doable. Whispers and Sephie were easy.

I'd probably agree with Hell House being the worst of the bunch. Wasn't sure that fight was going to end.

[Pyro3000]

引用自 Theroux：

Hell House got pretty obnoxious towards the end because it's immune to damage 95% of the time and Cloud can't even attack it, thus limiting his ATB. Eligor was pretty similar during the last 20% because it couldn't be staggered and kept hitting like a truck. Rufus was obnoxious but not strong enough to be an issue. Jenova was interesting but doable. Whispers and Sephie were easy.

I'd probably agree with Hell House being the worst of the bunch. Wasn't sure that fight was going to end.

The only way Cloud wouldn't be able to attack it is if Cloud had literally 0 offensive magic spells. Given how the game's stagger system works, I can't even imagine playing that way.

[Xelane]

引用自 Pyro3000：

引用自 Theroux：

Hell House got pretty obnoxious towards the end because it's immune to damage 95% of the time and Cloud can't even attack it, thus limiting his ATB. Eligor was pretty similar during the last 20% because it couldn't be staggered and kept hitting like a truck. Rufus was obnoxious but not strong enough to be an issue. Jenova was interesting but doable. Whispers and Sephie were easy.

I'd probably agree with Hell House being the worst of the bunch. Wasn't sure that fight was going to end.

The only way Cloud wouldn't be able to attack it is if Cloud had literally 0 offensive magic spells. Given how the game's stagger system works, I can't even imagine playing that way.

I kind of play it that way, tbh.

Most characters in my game are built to always have a ton of ATB and generate it constantly at the cost of spells, except Aerith. The result is that I usually end up trivializing most encounters due to chaining multiple skills together, or just being able to setup really easily.

[Saph]

And in the 1/7th of the price original, this dude's just a regular random encounter enemy you can fight or run from while you run through the robot arm room in the span of a second instead of spending several minutes on a pace-breakingly slow puzzle.