FF7 Remake VS FFXV

[DemosKratos]

Which one is better for you ?

[Tr0w]

引用自 Midnight Carnival Snack：

I'm still making my way through 7 but so far I think I prefer XV, though I do think 7 is the overall better game and is what I would tell people to play if they want a final fantasy with real time action (until 16 comes to steam).

FF's 1 through 9 had overworlds, so imho FFXV is more what i'd recommend to someone wanting an FF with real time action. X (plus garbage sequel), XIII (plus garbage sequels), 7R, and SoP have a completely different design philosophy when it comes to the world design, and that's basically to be like Prince of Persia or Devil May Cry.

[Midnight Sky ✨🌙✨]

引用自 Tr0w：

引用自 Midnight Carnival Snack：

I'm still making my way through 7 but so far I think I prefer XV, though I do think 7 is the overall better game and is what I would tell people to play if they want a final fantasy with real time action (until 16 comes to steam).

FF's 1 through 9 had overworlds, so imho FFXV is more what i'd recommend to someone wanting an FF with real time action. X (plus garbage sequel), XIII (plus garbage sequels), 7R, and SoP have a completely different design philosophy when it comes to the world design, and that's basically to be like Prince of Persia or Devil May Cry.

That's a good point. My thinking was really just "what's actually a good game overall" and as much as I find ffxv's adventure and characters endearing despite its faults, I have to recognize that those faults are significant.

[Aldon]

It's not just the structure of the level design. Many components play a role. So I miss a sense of achievement at FFVIIR. All the opponents who are emotionally significant flee after the fight, partly because of the actions of the protagonists, without me being able to intervene. Mass murderers, rapists and concentration camp doctors mock the player, go unpunished and leave the player extremely unsatisfied.

In addition, there are sometimes unfair combat situations when the HP of the boss fall below a certain threshold and is briefly immortal until a cutscene is executed. Anyone who just executes a limit has given it away. In addition, there are the deus ex machina situations with which the bosses save themselves (Red XIII stunned, Heli saves Turk/Son of Director, Girl lies whimpers on the ground without any real danger and Cloud runs to her instead of preventing the destruction of the pillar).

Finally, there are the mini-games, some of which cannot be avoided. The ending in FFXV is controversial, the one in VII inevitable because fate-driven. The fact that Cloud does not want to talk about the visions is due to his character and it is okay, that the rest of the group simply ignores it and he himself does not reflect it, but still chastes in surprise at the 10th sighting of Sephirot and stands around completely helpless, is not.

FFVII has the better story, it's a lot of fun but completely uncritically to protect a game that was good over 20 years ago leaves me with the impression that nostalgia can justify everything. The plot would also work narratively if you allow the player to make more decisions without constantly showing him his complete helplessness. The remake has given away potential.

[Powercat]

both have atrocious combat
ff7 remake has mutilated story, ffxv has none its empty void of nothing
both games are HORRIBLE

[Edifier]

引用自 Powercat：

both have atrocious combat
ff7 remake has mutilated story, ffxv has none its empty void of nothing
both games are HORRIBLE

No one here shares that opinion. You obviously just hate both games without knowing anything about them. Why are you even here?

[Astralis]

I like 7 remake more, it feels like a better game overall.

[mosspit]

引用自 Lienhart：

引用自 mosspit：

Something about open world for the sake of being open world is just not appealing.

It's not open for the sake of being open.

The XV director wants to make you cry (Google for sources.) That open world area was done so you spend around 40~ hours with 4 fictional characters, creating an emotional bond similar to being on a road trip with great friends.

The second half of the great takes those bonds and twists/chokes/cuts them, from absolute despair to extreme heroism.

I've not met anyone irl that played XV, who has a healthy # of friends, say they did not cry or felt like complete ♥♥♥♥ after lol. The director did a damn good job.

There's a camp fire scene, and a certain ending picture that will break even the biggest manly man into a sobbing mess.

Well, I will be the first then. Who did not cry or felt bad after. Unless you are here to insinuate that I do not have a healthy # of friends. Maybe I don't but whatever.

Fact of matter is, I do not get the open world aspect with nothing much to do in between. I really tried to like it, but I just couldn't. Or the very least, complete it without forcing myself to. Even if that is the intention of the game director according you and your sources, it doesn't make the delivery miraculously become okay for me. It didn't have to be an open world game to tell the story it needed to tell.

I prefer entries like FFX. But the best game from Square I have played imo is Xenogears. So maybe those previously entries set the bar high.

[Miesmann - allkeyshop]

15 definetly winner, i dont know how i could compare 300h game with 30h game lmao