Tactics Ogre: Reborn

Tactics Ogre: Reborn

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ArcRiseGen 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 8:50
Law, Chaos, or Neutral in what order?
I'm definitely getting this game but I'm also the type to need to complete everything, especially postgame content. What order would be the most efficient for me to play through?
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リュータ 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:07 
Law have 2 most broken unit. I just get 1 of them, and that unit still same broken unit.
By most efficient it must be the Law.
First reason is Coda 1 need certain character recruited which can't in N route (only need to be in party no need to be writen alive in warren report).
You need to finish certain dungeon till 100 and have certain character to be writen as dead in warren report before finishing chapter 4 to be able to proceed to coda 2.
There is 2 character you need to have in party which 1 of them can only be recruited in Law route and need good ending for coda 4.

So if you looking for efficiency.
L route> Clear the dungeon till 100> clear all side quest in chp 4> finish chapter 4 with good ending> clear Coda 1 (this is to make anchor point in coda 2 with that certain character writen dead in warren report so there is no need to go back again clearing 100f dungeon)

From that point you are free to world back to either C>N or N>C (when you finish ending your anchor point in C1 will be rewriten)

After you are done with C & N, go back to anchor point in coda 2.

Well just follow your heart it can be C Route> L Route> N route> clear f100 dungeon>clear everything + ch 4 good ending> coda 1, 2, 3, 4
vice verse

Note: There is two ending, you need good ending to access coda 4. So make sure you are in good ending before doing any coda thing.
最後修改者:リュータ; 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:17
ウィッチ(?) 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:08 
Law or Chaos is good for first play.
Each of them have good units join you (some require you to follow guide carefully) with interesting story going on.
Neutral is kinda meh story and no unique units to talk about, you can try that at last.

Also no need to start new games because of WORLD system (rewind time to try out other scenario or change outcome) accessible from end game. So feel free to play to your liking.
SonofaGlitch 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:20 
Most efficient or most enjoyable?
In terms of story progress, I think the consensus is that the Law path is one of the most interesting. Lots of Game of Thrones esque back stabbing and very dramatic. This is followed by the the Chaotic path, then Neutral tends to be the least interesting of the three to most people.

But in terms of progression efficiency with the Wheel of Fate Tarot system and its "New Game Plus" -esque elements the general consensus to go through the game in Neutral first (mostly for the Phoraena sisters - I know I spelled that wrong), get the bad ending and Lord class, then go back and do the Chaotic Path with a good ending and the Princess, then finish with the Law Path.
最後修改者:SonofaGlitch; 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:21
ArcRiseGen 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:12 
Thank you all.
Gonna go Law > Chaos > Neutral
Super Ourico 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:14 
引用自 ArcRiseGen
Thank you all.
Gonna go Law > Chaos > Neutral
I don't know if this is the case in Reborn, but in Let Us Cling Together you wanted to go Neutral first. Otherwise, if you progress through Neutral with Arycelle in your party, she will lose loyalty and likely abandon you.
SonofaGlitch 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 Super Ourico
引用自 ArcRiseGen
Thank you all.
Gonna go Law > Chaos > Neutral
I don't know if this is the case in Reborn, but in Let Us Cling Together you wanted to go Neutral first. Otherwise, if you progress through Neutral with Arycelle in your party, she will lose loyalty and likely abandon you.
Should probably just call it the PSP version, or Wheel of Fate. "Let Us Cling Together" is the name of both the SNES/PSX and PSP versions.
Super Ourico 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:24 
引用自 SonofaGlitch
引用自 Super Ourico
I don't know if this is the case in Reborn, but in Let Us Cling Together you wanted to go Neutral first. Otherwise, if you progress through Neutral with Arycelle in your party, she will lose loyalty and likely abandon you.
Should probably just call it the PSP version, or Wheel of Fate. "Let Us Cling Together" is the name of both the SNES/PSX and PSP versions.
Gotcha. I didn't really know the difference because I just ran it on an emulator. Enjoyed it so much that I'm willing to spend $50 here!
calemyr 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:31 
I usually go for Chaos first because it has more of the characters I like. All four sisters, both White Knights, and Arycelle*. It's also the path with Cressida*, who only joins if you have a good rep with the Galgastani and it is hard to keep that up for long in most playthroughs. It's also the "canon" route because of the White Knights: one dies in the neutral path, both die in the lawful one, but all five members of the Xenobian party canonically make it home alive. Then the first Coda to get the two characters there.

Then Lawful to get the other ones I really like and Neutral to clean up, but there's nobody there I absolutely HAVE to get, just a collection of exclusive semi-uniques.

* Not certain if this version gives Arycelle and Cressida the complications they had in the previous versions. Arycelle loses a lot of loyalty (enough to usually quit) if you go neutral, while Cressida's recruitment requirements were a lot more onerous when you actually killed your enemies while grinding, which effects your rep.
Livy 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:35 
Law or Chaos is good for first play.
Each of them have good units join you (some require you to follow guide carefully) with interesting story going on.
Neutral is kinda meh story and no unique units to talk about, you can try that at last.

Also no need to start new games because of WORLD system (rewind time to try out other scenario or change outcome) accessible from end game. So feel free to play to your liking.
Yeah Chaos has one of the messiest units to get. (Need to not kill too many Galgastani in all chapters and select the right choices in chapter 4 or you will need to do a lot of Chaos Frame/faction grinding) Also don't make a Galgastani attack another Galgastani or the reputation also drops.

Need about 50+ of the reputation to get the unit to join
最後修改者:Livy; 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:36
SonofaGlitch 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:35 
引用自 calemyr
I usually go for Chaos first because it has more of the characters I like. All four sisters, both White Knights, and Arycelle*. It's also the path with Cressida*, who only joins if you have a good rep with the Galgastani and it is hard to keep that up for long in most playthroughs. It's also the "canon" route because of the White Knights: one dies in the neutral path, both die in the lawful one, but all five members of the Xenobian party canonically make it home alive. Then the first Coda to get the two characters there.

Then Lawful to get the other ones I really like and Neutral to clean up, but there's nobody there I absolutely HAVE to get, just a collection of exclusive semi-uniques.

* Not certain if this version gives Arycelle and Cressida the complications they had in the previous versions. Arycelle loses a lot of loyalty (enough to usually quit) if you go neutral, while Cressida's recruitment requirements were a lot more onerous when you actually killed your enemies while grinding, which effects your rep.
The White Knights don't die in the Lawful path?
calemyr 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:42 
Ah, I got it bit wrong. Gildas only survives in Chaos. No routes outright kill Mirdyn. Still, that makes Chaos the only one that fits canon.
Darx 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:54 
is law the goody two shoes kinda ending?
SonofaGlitch 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:55 
引用自 calemyr
Ah, I got it bit wrong. Gildas only survives in Chaos. No routes outright kill Mirdyn. Still, that makes Chaos the only one that fits canon.
I mean . . . there's no real canon to TO: LuCT because there's never been a sequel that takes place afterwards to confirm the events of LuCT.

Like, we can say that canonically, in MotBQ the real ending is the World Tarot ending because Tristan is on the Throne in LuCT, they at least had the seal breaking magic sword (for it to be stolen by the Lodissians) and the Zenobians in OB64 are all the ones that went with the Opinion Leader to the north at the end of that ending.

But since OB64 takes place around the same time as LuCT and Knight of Lodis is a prequel, nothing is really locked in like the MotBQ ending is.
SonofaGlitch 2022 年 11 月 13 日 上午 11:56 
引用自 Darx
is law the goody two shoes kinda ending?
LOL.
Literally exactly the opposite.
"Lawful" and "Chaos" in TO do not represent Good or Evil. They represent whether you follow orders or if you don't.
ArcRiseGen 2022 年 11 月 16 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Super Ourico
引用自 ArcRiseGen
Thank you all.
Gonna go Law > Chaos > Neutral
I don't know if this is the case in Reborn, but in Let Us Cling Together you wanted to go Neutral first. Otherwise, if you progress through Neutral with Arycelle in your party, she will lose loyalty and likely abandon you.

Hmmmm. Cause I remember in the PSP version (never finished it RIP PSP) I went for Neutral first because of Arycelle but the loyalty drop led to me grinding for points to get her back to the minimum to not leave. If the system is the same, is there a way for me to get her after finishing the game on a different route? The only thing I know of is to let her die on any of the routes after finishing the game once (as long as she's in the team) so the Warren Report lists her as dead and the loyalty drop isn't applied.
最後修改者:ArcRiseGen; 2022 年 11 月 16 日 上午 7:56
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