Ps1 vs PSP vs PSP OV vs Reborn

[Goldy Hugs]

This could get rough, say your stuff

[Lacdanan]

引用自 REhorror：

引用自 Lacdanan：

I'm talking about the original game. The PSP version is definitive ♥♥♥♥. Thats the version that broke the game to begin with and turned it in to an insane grind.

Never played the original SNES.
This version is fixing the PSP version (which used to have the most content but has a bunch of unbalanced class), which means it's the better version for me.

The fact it cut down on the grind, sort out RNG and install a level cap to avoid characters outleveling each other is also good. Making it more of a strategy game than a RPG.

Well i guess, we can find some common ground there. PSP version is imo the worst one, and this kind of stacks on top of that, for me. I grew up on the snes and ps1 version, and they didn't seem that unbalanced to me. Seemed pretty fine, lots of fun, its why they're still selling it successfully, 30 years later. I'm not saying its bad, don't buy it. I'm saying there's a lot of things that stand out and really take away from the freedom you were given, which was pretty cool in an age where most games where linear, and didn't have multiple endings.

[REhorror]

引用自 Lacdanan：

引用自 REhorror：

Never played the original SNES.
This version is fixing the PSP version (which used to have the most content but has a bunch of unbalanced class), which means it's the better version for me.

The fact it cut down on the grind, sort out RNG and install a level cap to avoid characters outleveling each other is also good. Making it more of a strategy game than a RPG.

Well i guess, we can find some common ground there. PSP version is imo the worst one, and this kind of stacks on top of that, for me. I grew up on the snes and ps1 version, and they didn't seem that unbalanced to me. Seemed pretty fine, lots of fun, its why they're still selling it successfully, 30 years later. I'm not saying its bad, don't buy it. I'm saying there's a lot of things that stand out and really take away from the freedom you were given, which was pretty cool in an age where most games where linear, and didn't have multiple endings.

Well, agree to disagree.

No way anyone can go back to the SNES or PSX version now considering the improvements/additional contents made in the PSP version.
Now Reborn just fixes the PSP and improves upon it more.

[Lacdanan]

I mean, you can, and I will. Emu's are a thing. If you don't like this one, play one of the others. The story didn't change, so far as i can tell, and that has always been one of the best parts of the game. The title for this thread is which one do you think is best. I've had my say.

[REhorror]

引用自 Lacdanan：

I mean, you can, and I will. Emu's are a thing. If you don't like this one, play one of the others. The story didn't change, so far as i can tell, and that has always been one of the best parts of the game. The title for this thread is which one do you think is best. I've had my say.

Well, suits yourself.
Pointless for me to continue.

[R for Reload]

引用自 REhorror：

引用自 R for Reload：

You know besides the fact you can't. and the new card system is dogwater lmao.
What they should of done is not added ♥♥♥♥ systems no one likes or added 3 different modes one based on ps1, one based on psp and one based on reborn

The card system still means you have to maneuver around the battlefield, which is less boring than grinding.

引用自 Lacdanan：

Shill all you like with your artificial difficulty, it hasn't made it any harder since its still running on SNES AI and can be broken with simple cheese. The freedom to play as i see fit leaves this as a sad clone in my eyes.

How is it artificial difficulty when it's balanced into the game?
The fact you can't run the same OP group as in the previous version (PSP) already means it's more balanced.

I dont think you've played the ps1 version, but that already had that due to elemental advantage on tiles, Changing how you had to take fights and it didn't look ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

[REhorror]

引用自 R for Reload：

引用自 REhorror：

The card system still means you have to maneuver around the battlefield, which is less boring than grinding.


How is it artificial difficulty when it's balanced into the game?
The fact you can't run the same OP group as in the previous version (PSP) already means it's more balanced.

I dont think you've played the ps1 version, but that already had that due to elemental advantage on tiles, Changing how you had to take fights and it didn't look ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

My experience with TO comes from the PSP version.
I don't really find the point to go back to the older versions, so no thank you.

[Lacdanan]

引用自 REhorror：

引用自 R for Reload：

I dont think you've played the ps1 version, but that already had that due to elemental advantage on tiles, Changing how you had to take fights and it didn't look ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

My experience with TO comes from the PSP version.
I don't really find the point to go back to the older versions, so no thank you.

Yeah, I don't think you'd really find anything overly impressive with going back farther, except maybe avoiding the horrible grind and maybe some dumb mechanics that apparently got fixed with this version.

[wdlp]

Sega Saturn version obvsly

[R for Reload]

引用自 REhorror：

引用自 R for Reload：

I dont think you've played the ps1 version, but that already had that due to elemental advantage on tiles, Changing how you had to take fights and it didn't look ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

My experience with TO comes from the PSP version.
I don't really find the point to go back to the older versions, so no thank you.

You understand that the games don't play the same? If they did people wouldn't be complaining about this verison, lmao. "Why play dark souls 1, 2 or 3, or bloodborne when Elden ring is out"

Or better yet "why ever go back and play the original mw2 when the new one is out that's nothing like it"

[Sardorim]

Reborn is the best version.

And has the greatest modding potential since it's natively on PC.

[Louis Cypher]

One Vision rules it all

[>-FISH-D]

Reborn blows all other versions completely out of the water. The devs have fixed every prior issue with the game. Cut out the fat and left the meat and at the same time made the combat far more challenging. The internal components needed a rework and the battlefield card system adds some much need variety with battlefield movement instead of just hunkering down in a corner. It's a genius addition.

This version is by far the most interesting. The devs really put their hearts and minds into fixing all the past issues. Only slight nitpick I have is the screen filter but I can live with it. Definitely not a deal breaker.

Just watch coffee potato's 2 hour review if you doubt what the devs have done with this version.

[Martok-Worf]

No contest, Reborn is superior and worth it.

[R for Reload]

引用自 -Fish-：

Reborn blows all other versions completely out of the water. The devs have fixed every prior issue with the game. Cut out the fat and left the meat and at the same time made the combat far more challenging. The internal components needed a rework and the battlefield card system adds some much need variety with battlefield movement instead of just hunkering down in a corner. It's a genius addition.

This version is by far the most interesting. The devs really put their hearts and minds into fixing all the past issues. Only slight nitpick I have is the screen filter but I can live with it. Definitely not a deal breaker.

Just watch coffee potato's 2 hour review if you doubt what the devs have done with this version.

"Challenging" even know its easier then ps1 verison
And also "Cool cards and level caps" because they don't know how to balance the game and made it like phone puzzle game.
Not only that cards make it WAY more luck based that you get the cards you need on your side of the battle, Instead of taking advantage of elemental terrain which was set in the PS1 verison

[Pug Jesus]

Difficult to say. I actually prefer the portraits of the PS1 version. The leveling system of the PS1 version is preferable as well. But all the QoL improvements of later versions are difficult to give up. I dislike the PSP version's class leveling, but I'm also not a fan of Reborn's level cap. I miss cross-classing skills, but I'll admit that it was easy to make OP builds in the PSP version. My biggest gripe, I think, is with Reborn's blue cards, which clutter the battlefield.

I think either the PSP version or Reborn is the best.