Final boss so absurd

[Hisoka44]

As the title says... im about to quit the game. As a regular player i just went on with the story with no problem, found some levels hard enough to retry but i made it through. Now the last boss is just stupidity. It doesnt matters how many team combinations i try, if i throw on the boss debuffs of melee and magic, i cannot withstand. He spams turn after turn the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ auto defence which makes him take literally 0 damage. If i attack him on melee range he will counter attack me back for 360 damage. JUST FOR A COUNTER.
It makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense to put such an overpowered boss.
I did not go to palace of the dead neither did shrines, that's supposed to be post content.
Whever i got to phase 2, with half my units dead, the first attack the boss does kills me at least 2 or 3 more units. And every time he attacks its another dead one.
Its the first time in my life i cannot finish a game.

[Pickleton]

Uhhh I dunno what your party comp is, so don't know what you have access to.
Definitely bring a cleric (or Catiua if you have her) to counter Condemn.
If you've got gunners or beast tamers, equip their highest leveled weapon skill and chuck bombs at him during phase 1. Enemies in THIS particular doppelganger fight, at least, don't load in with your consumables iirc, so you can chuck shots at him while they can't in return.
If you've got a bunch of Circlet+1 head pieces, it has pretty dang good magic damage reduction for phase 2.

Other than that, bring plenty of healing consumables on top of bringing a cleric or 2 (or heck, even 3), since phase 2 he does very high amounts of AoE magic damage and moves rather fast.

[Raelic]

We can get you through it. What kind of characters do you have for the fight? Do you have Lord Class unlocked? Are you at max level for your union level? Did you equip the sword you got in the last fight? Do you the Cleric spell Absolution? It will remove Condemn and can be used in Phase 1 of the fight.

You can get your army stacked with cards before ending phase 1 as well.

[Hisoka44]

Originally posted by Raelic:

We can get you through it. What kind of characters do you have for the fight? Do you have Lord Class unlocked? Are you at max level for your union level? Did you equip the sword you got in the last fight? Do you the Cleric spell Absolution? It will remove Condemn and can be used in Phase 1 of the fight.

You can get your army stacked with cards before ending phase 1 as well.

Lets see. All my units are lvl 40. Im using danem as melee with 2h hammer. I have 2 of the sisters for control charm or aoe spell. Hobryn 2h sword as Terror knight (who rarely auto casts terror). Canopus as Rune fencer for bow finishers for control, or spell damage. The 2 white knights with spear and hammer. And 2 generic wizards for aoe damage.
I do not use the sword since the only character i have leveled swords with is a dragoon which i dont even use, and i dont see any benefit in using the sword honestly.
I would have to check if i have absolution spell allthough im not using a cleric. However there's not even time to revive my units because im constantly getting hit or dying.

So my main approach is rush the boss with anyone who can get near and throw the spell debuff. Which honestly it doesnt make any difference because: 1-on his first turn he spams the dark metoerite dealing 170-250 damage to each of my units, AND CASTS THE DEFENCE REDUCTION BUFF. 2- he teleports and melee my units for 600 phyisical damage.
Appart from this strat. i have tried sending pack of dragons, but they barely auto trigger the dragon scale thing.
I managed to get to phase 2, like i said, but not worth like this. More than half my units are allready dead.

[Raelic]

You didn't mention Catuia, do you have the Lord Class unlocked? It's by far the easiest solution to your problem.

Just make Denam a knight and then lord, equip the sword that has light affinity to contrast with the bosses dark affinity, and take him solo into the fight with the skills...

1 Handed Swords, even if untrained.
Strengthen, IIRC that's the name. It's the one that gives you + Defense.
Phalanx
First Aid

Take only Denam and run around the room picking up support cards. Pick up 3 support cards and kill your mimic. After you have 3 support cards kill the first boss to end the phase. Pick up a damage card too if you want or anything really. It doesn't matter.

The last boss can't kill you now. Your defense+phalanx should trigger every round. First Aid should cover any damage you take.

Just slowly whittle the boss down. It'll take a while.

[Hisoka44]

Originally posted by Raelic:

You didn't mention Catuia, do you have the Lord Class unlocked? It's by far the easiest solution to your problem.

Just make Denam a knight and then lord, equip the sword that has light affinity to contrast with the bosses dark affinity, and take him solo into the fight with the skills...

1 Handed Swords, even if untrained.
Strengthen, IIRC that's the name. It's the one that gives you + Defense.
Phalanx
First Aid

Take only Denam and run around the room picking up support cards. Pick up 3 support cards and kill your mimic. After you have 3 support cards kill the first boss to end the phase. Pick up a damage card too if you want or anything really. It doesn't matter.

The last boss can't kill you now. Your defense+phalanx should trigger every round. First Aid should cover any damage you take.

Just slowly whittle the boss down. It'll take a while.

Cautia suicide in my playthrough. Denam is Lord yes. Okay.. i can try this and come back with the results. I once tried to solo with him it didnt go well, since i was getting chopped fast. Would it help if i change Denam affinity to light? (he is lightning)

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Hisoka44:

Originally posted by Raelic:

You didn't mention Catuia, do you have the Lord Class unlocked? It's by far the easiest solution to your problem.

Just make Denam a knight and then lord, equip the sword that has light affinity to contrast with the bosses dark affinity, and take him solo into the fight with the skills...

1 Handed Swords, even if untrained.
Strengthen, IIRC that's the name. It's the one that gives you + Defense.
Phalanx
First Aid

Take only Denam and run around the room picking up support cards. Pick up 3 support cards and kill your mimic. After you have 3 support cards kill the first boss to end the phase. Pick up a damage card too if you want or anything really. It doesn't matter.

The last boss can't kill you now. Your defense+phalanx should trigger every round. First Aid should cover any damage you take.

Just slowly whittle the boss down. It'll take a while.

Cautia suicide in my playthrough. Denam is Lord yes. Okay.. i can try this and come back with the results. I once tried to solo with him it didnt go well, since i was getting chopped fast. Would it help if i change Denam affinity to light? (he is lightning)

I think so yes, but I don't think it's necessary. The important things are the specific skills I listed, the one handed sword and shield I forgot to mention, and getting the 3 support cards before ending phase 1.

[Pickleton]

If you make Denam light element, he'll do a bit more damage with the sword, but he'll also take more damage from dark element attacks, so that's something to weigh.
To make things a little easier, give Denam both the poison and stun spells. Enemy AI wont use status effect spells, so you can apply poison to your doppelganger but he can't use it on you. Poison does a good bit of damage and phalanx doesn't mitigate it. The boss (both phases) can be stunned as well, which will give you a bit more survivability in case you're still having some trouble. Him losing a turn every now and then will give you some breathing room.

[Hisoka44]

Well.. i failed. The second phase to for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever. But the auto heal doesnt outnumbers the amount of damage i take from 3 hits per turn. Plus i can only damage him using wendigo. The sword does 1 damage. I picked up like 10 support cards, 3 critical, 2 magic ones, but whenever the auto skills dont pop up, especially phalanx i take 280 damage.
I will try again tho, carrying a stun (allthough the % of hitting is not great).

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Hisoka44:

Well.. i failed. The second phase to for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever. But the auto heal doesnt outnumbers the amount of damage i take from 3 hits per turn. Plus i can only damage him using wendigo. The sword does 1 damage. I picked up like 10 support cards, 3 critical, 2 magic ones, but whenever the auto skills dont pop up, especially phalanx i take 280 damage.
I will try again tho, carrying a stun (allthough the % of hitting is not great).

Ah, yea, your characters can only hold 4 cards. So when you kept picking up cards it pushed the support cards off.

Just pick up 3 support cards and an attack damage card. Avoid picking up cards after that and the attack card is optional.

If you kept picking up cards, you only keep the last four you've picked up. Sometimes I take for granted that people know things. But to be fair, this is not explained very well in the game, if at all.

EDIT: To be even more clear, I'm talking about blue buff cards. Your character can pick up as many green cards as they want.

[Hisoka44]

Originally posted by Raelic:

Originally posted by Hisoka44:

Well.. i failed. The second phase to for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ever. But the auto heal doesnt outnumbers the amount of damage i take from 3 hits per turn. Plus i can only damage him using wendigo. The sword does 1 damage. I picked up like 10 support cards, 3 critical, 2 magic ones, but whenever the auto skills dont pop up, especially phalanx i take 280 damage.
I will try again tho, carrying a stun (allthough the % of hitting is not great).

Ah, yea, your characters can only hold 4 cards. So when you kept picking up cards it pushed the support cards off.

Just pick up 3 support cards and an attack damage card. Avoid picking up cards after that and the attack card is optional.

If you kept picking up cards, you only keep the last four you've picked up. Sometimes I take for granted that people know things. But to be fair, this is not explained very well in the game, if at all.

EDIT: To be even more clear, I'm talking about blue buff cards. Your character can pick up as many green cards as they want.

oh lord... i didnt know that they got replaced... now i understand!! ok, here i go again...

[Hisoka44]

It's hard to fight the second phase when he gets to play 3 consecutive turns

https://ibb.co/KjvyDYS

[Hisoka44]

DONEEEEEEE
Thank you guys, the battle was no fun at all though. It took like 40 min or more just shooting wendigo and missing 2/3 out of 4. Insanely borring and tiering.
Maybe i should have try going as caster, the sword didnt help on the second phase.

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Hisoka44:

It's hard to fight the second phase when he gets to play 3 consecutive turns

https://ibb.co/KjvyDYS

Is your first aid not healing you back up completely? You may need to take 100% healing potions, if not.

I made other assumptions too, like I assume you've got high defense armor from crafting in the shops? Nothing rare, just what you can get ingredients with from the store.

If that strat doesn't help, I'll have to pass it back over to Pickle. That was my big flourish of a contribution. I didn't have trouble with it, but maybe I had different gear.

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Hisoka44:

DONEEEEEEE
Thank you guys, the battle was no fun at all though. It took like 40 min or more just shooting wendigo and missing 2/3 out of 4. Insanely borring and tiering.
Maybe i should have try going as caster, the sword didnt help on the second phase.

agreed, and if you're going for full achievements you gotta do it two more times. LOL

[Pickleton]

There are other ways to beat the boss. I've never done this strategy before.
My previous time doing it I brought a bunch of characters with charm through caldia or Charm spell, a couple zombie dragons, and a bunch of healers that don't have the Ease spell. This way I could charm like half doppelgangers and run around picking up cards in phase1, and full heal like mad in phase2. A couple auto-skilll cards on a few zombie dragons with Dragon Scale and then pack them in with the rest of your units so he kills himself on reflect damage.