Games like this?

[Karsk]

I remember fft was pretty good however I never played the sequels, are they better than the first?

Any other games like this on steam?

[Pickleton]

Not for Steam, but if you really liked this I'd recommend Gungnir for PSP. It's probably a bit more challenging than TO:R, but it has a fantastic story.

[Karsk]

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Not for Steam, but if you really liked this I'd recommend Gungnir for PSP. It's probably a bit more challenging than TO:R, but it has a fantastic story.

Do you prefer this over fft? Like is tactoca ogre reborn better?

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Karsk:

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Not for Steam, but if you really liked this I'd recommend Gungnir for PSP. It's probably a bit more challenging than TO:R, but it has a fantastic story.

Do you prefer this over fft? Like is tactoca ogre reborn better?

If you like strategy games more than RPGs, definitely. TO leans more towards the strategy side of SRPG, while FFT leans hard into the RPG aspect.

In TO you have a team generally 8-10 (could be more or less, but 8-10 most common) that needs to adapt to the flow of battle, thinking about positioning, applying buffs/debuffs, using terrain, and managing cards, procs, items and MP.
In FFT your army is the size of a Final Fantasy party, and just about as complex to operate imho. The majority of the thinking is done outside of battle with skill management, but the game is FF8 levels of broken, where the "hardest" part is the first half hour or so, and the game just gets easier and easier from there.

[Chillmander]

If you're looking for another game like FFT, try Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark. The class and skill system is definitely inspired by FFT and it is a worthy addition to the genre.

[Karsk]

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Originally posted by Karsk:

Do you prefer this over fft? Like is tactoca ogre reborn better?

If you like strategy games more than RPGs, definitely. TO leans more towards the strategy side of SRPG, while FFT leans hard into the RPG aspect.

In TO you have a team generally 8-10 (could be more or less, but 8-10 most common) that needs to adapt to the flow of battle, thinking about positioning, applying buffs/debuffs, using terrain, and managing cards, procs, items and MP.
In FFT your army is the size of a Final Fantasy party, and just about as complex to operate imho. The majority of the thinking is done outside of battle with skill management, but the game is FF8 levels of broken, where the "hardest" part is the first half hour or so, and the game just gets easier and easier from there.

Huh never knew that. Then again I did beat the og fft when it was on gba as a kid. Are there any tips for TO then? I see a lot of people who are angry at this version for some reason?

I really am still trying to come to grips with the game.

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Karsk:

Originally posted by Pickleton:

If you like strategy games more than RPGs, definitely. TO leans more towards the strategy side of SRPG, while FFT leans hard into the RPG aspect.

In TO you have a team generally 8-10 (could be more or less, but 8-10 most common) that needs to adapt to the flow of battle, thinking about positioning, applying buffs/debuffs, using terrain, and managing cards, procs, items and MP.
In FFT your army is the size of a Final Fantasy party, and just about as complex to operate imho. The majority of the thinking is done outside of battle with skill management, but the game is FF8 levels of broken, where the "hardest" part is the first half hour or so, and the game just gets easier and easier from there.

Huh never knew that. Then again I did beat the og fft when it was on gba as a kid. Are there any tips for TO then? I see a lot of people who are angry at this version for some reason?

I really am still trying to come to grips with the game.

GBA FFT was FFTA. I thought you were talking about the original FFT for PS1 (or the PSP remake).
Honestly a good amount of the complaints about this version of the game are from people who played the PSP version, haven't played the SNES/Saturn/PS1 version, possibly haven't played any other Ogre Battle games, and therefore don't really understand how the game evolved through its iterations. Reborn is probably best described as the version "closest to Matsuno's vision".

Take the complaints, for example:
A lot of the things people complain about being "removed" in this version are things that were not in the OG version to begin with (rogue class, status immunity gear, massively bloated spell/skill lists, etc). For people who played the older version first, it's a heck of a lot easier to take in these changes, but for others it's "rah rah muh cut content". For players of the original version, though, it's more like they took the PS1 version as the base, added parts from the PSP version that worked, and the rest ended up on the cutting room floor.

There are also a LOT of people misremembering how mechanics worked, which I'm almost positive are people who played either with mods or cheats. Expecting me to believe that Knight's Phalanx or Cleric's MB had 100% uptime despite costing 50TP, or Terror Knights having high hit odds with Lament at Skill Level 1, or stacking 3 different skills in 1 turn, or winged boots giving their units flight without having to spend a turn using it, or not having to spend hours grinding to get 1 Augment skill level.

[Karsk]

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Originally posted by Karsk:

Huh never knew that. Then again I did beat the og fft when it was on gba as a kid. Are there any tips for TO then? I see a lot of people who are angry at this version for some reason?

I really am still trying to come to grips with the game.

GBA FFT was FFTA. I thought you were talking about the original FFT for PS1 (or the PSP remake).
Honestly a good amount of the complaints about this version of the game are from people who played the PSP version, haven't played the SNES/Saturn/PS1 version, possibly haven't played any other Ogre Battle games, and therefore don't really understand how the game evolved through its iterations. Reborn is probably best described as the version "closest to Matsuno's vision".

Take the complaints, for example:
A lot of the things people complain about being "removed" in this version are things that were not in the OG version to begin with (rogue class, status immunity gear, massively bloated spell/skill lists, etc). For people who played the older version first, it's a heck of a lot easier to take in these changes, but for others it's "rah rah muh cut content". For players of the original version, though, it's more like they took the PS1 version as the base, added parts from the PSP version that worked, and the rest ended up on the cutting room floor.

There are also a LOT of people misremembering how mechanics worked, which I'm almost positive are people who played either with mods or cheats. Expecting me to believe that Knight's Phalanx or Cleric's MB had 100% uptime despite costing 50TP, or Terror Knights having high hit odds with Lament at Skill Level 1, or stacking 3 different skills in 1 turn, or winged boots giving their units flight without having to spend a turn using it, or not having to spend hours grinding to get 1 Augment skill level.

Oh good then I will keep with it. Yea I guess it was FFTA I only played that version. There is a possibility that I played the psp version a bit as well. However I forgot that it was originally for ps1.

Btw which version of fft is the best? gba, psp, ps1? Is war of the lions worth trying? How was FFA-2?


As for TO, any tips to learn it?

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Karsk:

Oh good then I will keep with it. Yea I guess it was FFTA I only played that version. There is a possibility that I played the psp version a bit as well. However I forgot that it was originally for ps1.

Btw which version of fft is the best? gba, psp, ps1? Is war of the lions worth trying? How was FFA-2?


As for TO, any tips to learn it?

I'm not too familiar with the FFTA series, truth be told, mostly just the original for PS1/PSP with Ramza as the main character. As far as best version of that, I would say if you can get the PSP version with a fix for the slowdown issues, that would be best. Otherwise, the PS1 version. The slowdown during battle gets annoying extremely fast.

For TO, it's really difficult to just give blanket tips due to how many mechanics are at play at any given time, but I guess just try to keep an open mind. It's really easy to find something that works for a battle or two, then just tunnel vision on that even when the next battle is easier with a completely opposite strategy.
If I were to make a blanket statement on strategy, it would be to keep an eye on the bonus objectives for each map. Most (but not all) of them actually work as hints for how the game suggests you handle the map. For example: one of the earlier maps (Rhime) is the first map that has both a dragon and a knight on it. Both dragons and knights have good defense and HP in comparison to the units you've been fighting up until that point. However, the 2 bonus objectives in that fight are to 1) bring an enchantress or wizard, and 2) debuff an enemy. The game here is hinting that a good way to deal with bulky characters is to hit them with poison, since poison damage is not effected by armor, and deals damage based on max HP (high hp = more damage).
Note that you don't have to complete these bonus objectives, and later on there will be bonus objectives that are there to increase difficulty (no incapacitates, no chariot, etc), but by that point you should hopefully have a better grasp on the game mechanics.

[Charles]

Fell Seal has top-notch gameplay and is similar to FF Tactics.

[Zoid13]

theres games liek Triangle Strategy (game has a LOT of story and talking vs combat) but i liked the game.
then you have other games like
Solasta
divinity original sin 1-2
that have turn based tactical combat but with more exploitable worlds than simply a map with locations for fights like TO and FFT.

[KalkiKrosah]

There's a few on steam that are like Tactics Ogre: Reborn. I'll try to list them in order on what is most similar to Tactics Ogre at the top:

Fell Seal: https://store.steampowered.com/app/699170/Fell_Seal_Arbiters_Mark/

Hellenica: https://store.steampowered.com/app/540690/Hellenica/

Disgaea PC: https://store.steampowered.com/app/405900/Disgaea_PC/

Bastard Bonds: https://store.steampowered.com/app/486720/Bastard_Bonds/

Fallout Tactics: https://store.steampowered.com/app/38420/Fallout_Tactics_Brotherhood_of_Steel/

Battle Brothers: https://store.steampowered.com/app/365360/Battle_Brothers/

Expeditions: Vikings: https://store.steampowered.com/app/445190/Expeditions_Viking/

XCOM 2: https://store.steampowered.com/app/268500/XCOM_2/

Battletech: https://store.steampowered.com/app/637090/BATTLETECH/

Fell Seal is probably the closest thing to Tactics Ogre that is available on steam. You can always get an emulator and play Final Fantasy Tactics or Final Fantasy Tactics advance, but you'll have to figure out how to do that yourself.

Hellenica and Disgaea PC have the same art style as Tactics Ogre. Its much less polish than Fell Seal has, but they are fun in their own rights.

Bastard Bonds is a low spec graphics, mature version of this game genre. Its also far simpler, but the storyline is well written.

Fallout Tactics is over 20 years old now and is one of the inspirations to the genre. It's one of those games that still maintains some of its charm even in its old age.

Battle Brothers is where things start to stray from what Tactics Ogre is. Its got decent graphics but is very well written and incredibly challenging. Its one of my most played games, so there's lots of enjoyment in it if you like a challenge.

Expeditions Vikings dips a little bit further into realism. The graphics are more life like and the dialogue is too. Its got low fantasy elements to it but for the most part plays out realistically. Might be worth checking out.

XCOM 2 is an RNG torture device. Turn based combat, VERY IMPRESSIVE graphics and a percentages simulation that will drive you mad. But as aggravating as the RNG can be its very enjoyable when you progress further in the story. It's a great game.

Battletech is a turn based mech fighting game. You run a mercenary crew of mech fighters and you travel the galaxy fighting battles for the highest bidder. Good graphics and a catchy soundtrack. The dialogue is basic but the gameplay is mesmerizing. Another of my favorites.

[Casual Amateur]

Try this one. Its similar.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1850510/TRIANGLE_STRATEGY/

[sorethroat]

Horizon's Gate

[Casual Amateur]

Originally posted by sorethroat:

Horizon's Gate
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1224290/Horizons_Gate/

Let me fix that for you. So that user don't have to type it in.

[Karsk]

Originally posted by Mossy Mushroom:

Originally posted by sorethroat:

Horizon's Gate
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1224290/Horizons_Gate/

Let me fix that for you. So that user don't have to type it in.

Interesting never heard of this one. So you recommend it?