Cressida

[Michiel]

Cressida refused to join me after I saved her. Possibly because of low Chaos Frame, but I thought the quest only triggered if you had enough ?
Anyway, can I still get her after this ?

[Super Ourico]

If you jump back to a previous anchor point and do those fights again, you can recruit her with high enough reputation.

[Michiel]

Originally posted by Super Ourico:

If you jump back to a previous anchor point and do those fights again, you can recruit her with high enough reputation.

Like load the save before the last fight, get rep up and then try again right ?

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Michiel:

Originally posted by Super Ourico:

If you jump back to a previous anchor point and do those fights again, you can recruit her with high enough reputation.

Like load the save before the last fight, get rep up and then try again right ?

After you finish the main story, you can jump back to parts in the story you've already played through. In this case, he's saying that after you finish the game, you can redo that section of the game with a higher Chaos Frame.


If you don't want to wait until the post game, the only suggestion I can really give at this point is the "death march" strategy. You gain a fraction of a point of Chaos Frame whenever one of your units of that faction are incapacitated. Recruit a bunch of Galgastani units and let them get incapacitated over and over in Phorampa.

If you want to automate it:
1) Go to Phorampa and take the first battle, then Field of Fallen Shadow (the one with dragons), Untrodden Marsh (usually has a couple skellies), and then finally The Feral Shore. 2) Save before doing The Feral Shore, and then go in, recruit a zombie unit that has Galgastani race, retreat, repeat until you have 8 Galgastani Zombies.
3) Give all of your zombies as much armor as you can but no weapons.
4) Retreat from Phorampa entirely and go back in.
5) Make a group of your 8 zombies and set everyone to autobattle.

Your undead army will eventually win through attrition, but will be stilled a lot throughout the course of it. Every time a Galgastani unit is stilled, you gain the same 0.1-0.2 Galgastani Chaos Frame as being incapacitated.

[Terra]

There are 4 points you can get Chaos Frame in C4, and it'll probably be enough

1. Solving the Philaha rebellion peacefully
2. Letting the looters go free after Heim in the Lord route
3. Turning down the Apocrypha quest after doing all the pre-reqs
4. Immediately turning down the treasure in the finale of the Azelstan recruitment

However, the last one is probably inaccessible if you have the Cressida fight unlocked. The preceding 3 will PROBABLY get you enough without death marching. It worked for me, and I'm pretty sure I chose all the -Galgastani choices earlier in the game

[Michiel]

Thanks all, I got her now :)
I got the rep via letting 11 lvl 1 Galgastani recruits repeatedly (11 times) die in Almorica training.
One can see how far the rep is by viewing the help text of a new recruit.

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Michiel:

Thanks all, I got her now :)
I got the rep via letting 11 lvl 1 Galgastani recruits repeatedly (11 times) die in Almorica training.
One can see how far the rep is by viewing the help text of a new recruit.

Huh. Didn't know it worked in training. Wonder if it's possible to screw yourself over by accidentally raising your Chaos Frame too high via training.

[Terra]

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Originally posted by Michiel:

Thanks all, I got her now :)
I got the rep via letting 11 lvl 1 Galgastani recruits repeatedly (11 times) die in Almorica training.
One can see how far the rep is by viewing the help text of a new recruit.

Huh. Didn't know it worked in training. Wonder if it's possible to screw yourself over by accidentally raising your Chaos Frame too high via training.

As far as I know, there's no downside to having high Chaos Frame. The only thing it affects is Cressida's recruitment and which version of the Lord ending you get.

[Pickleton]

Originally posted by Terra:

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Huh. Didn't know it worked in training. Wonder if it's possible to screw yourself over by accidentally raising your Chaos Frame too high via training.

As far as I know, there's no downside to having high Chaos Frame. The only thing it affects is Cressida's recruitment and which version of the Lord ending you get.

Never really bumped into it myself, so I might just be repeating BS.
I've heard that if you get your Chaos Frame with a race too high, your units will lose loyalty whenever killing someone of that race. Or your characters of that race will lose loyalty whenever someone of that race dies.
Just tried fact checking this but like no matter how you narrow the search in Google, just having "Chaos Frame" in the search makes the first several pages just blurbs about recruiting Cressida.

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by Terra:

There are 4 points you can get Chaos Frame in C4, and it'll probably be enough

1. Solving the Philaha rebellion peacefully
2. Letting the looters go free after Heim in the Lord route
3. Turning down the Apocrypha quest after doing all the pre-reqs
4. Immediately turning down the treasure in the finale of the Azelstan recruitment

However, the last one is probably inaccessible if you have the Cressida fight unlocked. The preceding 3 will PROBABLY get you enough without death marching. It worked for me, and I'm pretty sure I chose all the -Galgastani choices earlier in the game

yep thats what i did. i failed to get her in chapter 4 on first run due to chaos frame but i did those steps in about 20 mins in coda with level sync off and just destroy the main target of the battles within like 2 turns just to grab her. far faster than the death march everyone seems to like.

[ShiroRyu]

Originally posted by Pickleton:

Originally posted by Michiel:

Like load the save before the last fight, get rep up and then try again right ?

After you finish the main story, you can jump back to parts in the story you've already played through. In this case, he's saying that after you finish the game, you can redo that section of the game with a higher Chaos Frame.


If you don't want to wait until the post game, the only suggestion I can really give at this point is the "death march" strategy. You gain a fraction of a point of Chaos Frame whenever one of your units of that faction are incapacitated. Recruit a bunch of Galgastani units and let them get incapacitated over and over in Phorampa.

If you want to automate it:
1) Go to Phorampa and take the first battle, then Field of Fallen Shadow (the one with dragons), Untrodden Marsh (usually has a couple skellies), and then finally The Feral Shore. 2) Save before doing The Feral Shore, and then go in, recruit a zombie unit that has Galgastani race, retreat, repeat until you have 8 Galgastani Zombies.
3) Give all of your zombies as much armor as you can but no weapons.
4) Retreat from Phorampa entirely and go back in.
5) Make a group of your 8 zombies and set everyone to autobattle.

Your undead army will eventually win through attrition, but will be stilled a lot throughout the course of it. Every time a Galgastani unit is stilled, you gain the same 0.1-0.2 Galgastani Chaos Frame as being incapacitated.

The part about doing it with zombies is OK.

But if people do it in Phorampa with normal unit you will loose on the no-incap title and they might die if unattended which make you loose faction.

I did it in TRAINING in krysaro, 11 clear auto+weapon + denam ; took me 2hour.