Tactics Ogre: Reborn

Tactics Ogre: Reborn

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Echo Dec 3, 2022 @ 4:48pm
Reborn vs Original Which one is better?
Hey I have the Original Tactics Ogre on PSVita and I was wondering if I should stick with playing that or Reborn. I heard Reborn changed some stuff so I'm not to sure if the changes are good or bad.
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Haddon Dec 3, 2022 @ 5:00pm 
The original is on SNES, ported to PSX in English. PSP one is a remake. This is a remake of that remake.
Echo Dec 3, 2022 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Haddon:
The original is on SNES, ported to PSX in English. PSP one is a remake. This is a remake of that remake.
Oh mb then which version should I play?
Jedo Dec 3, 2022 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Black Wolf:
Originally posted by Haddon:
The original is on SNES, ported to PSX in English. PSP one is a remake. This is a remake of that remake.
Oh mb then which version should I play?
I mean if I were you I'd play the one I already have. Sounds good by itself.
Argile Dec 3, 2022 @ 5:55pm 
this version is better, but it isn't enough of an improvement to be worth the asking price, I would come back to this version after we get some mods.
knockoffsoda Dec 3, 2022 @ 5:59pm 
For me it came down to the fact that I love the game and done basically all there was to do in both the original PS1 version and the PSP version. So it was a question of if I wanted to try out a new spin on the game or not, which I did.

Overall I'm happy with this new version, and it's the version I'll end up replaying in the future.

I understand most of the complaints about Reborn, and they tend to fall into one of two classes: 1) There's not enough new to warrant the $50 price tag, and 2) Change X was a bad change.

Personally, I do think there's enough changed to warrant a $50 price tag. To me--in no particular order--the voice acting, upscaling (while the character sprites are divisive, I include in this the menus, icons, and all other art), rebalancing of classes/weapons/skills/magic to have fewer boom/bust classes, completely redone sound effects, and new orchestral renditions of all the music are enough. I can totally understand though people comparing this game to other games at the same price point and saying it's not worth it.

As for the bad changes, I agree with some of them. The removal of the Rogue class (not enough time to balance it, apparently) and the removal of random fights on old maps outside of Training in a city are both objectively bad decisions to me. That said, I don't find either to be a huge deal.

The most controversial in terms of some people liking and some people disliking is probably the introduction of battle cards during combat. These are cards that semi-randomly spawn in as you fight and give one of a few bonuses (extra physical or magic damage, increased crit chance, and more frequent skill activation, which is a random chance now). You need to balance grabbing cards versus better positioning.

I'm actually still on the fence on this change. I understand why some might not like it (many cards at some points cluttering up the visuals, or the idea that combat becomes card scavenging if you want it to), but I think on balance I just slightly prefer it being there.
Last edited by knockoffsoda; Dec 3, 2022 @ 6:02pm
easytarget Dec 3, 2022 @ 6:14pm 
The color green is demonstrably superior to the color blue.
Grumpy Old Guy Dec 3, 2022 @ 7:19pm 
I think the class balance is better in this game and the crafting in the psp version was god awful and here it is considerably better. I'd go with this version just off the class balance and the crafting changes.
REhorror Dec 3, 2022 @ 10:00pm 
Reborn, the increased speed and (JPN) voice acting add much life into the game. There are some stuff removed that I can live without (Rogue and throwing weapons).

I'm kinda sad that Front Mission 1 Remake doesn't actually have voice acting despite the graphics and speed improvement, wish they have added.
Lex Dec 4, 2022 @ 8:18am 
They all have different strengths and weaknesses. It's hard to say what's better because it will depend on the persons taste.

This version is certainly a lot less grindy, and streamlined in many ways. I've played the psx port, the psp remake and now this remaster and I can't really decide on a definite this is better version. I'd lean Towards Reborn=PSP>OG but it really depends on your mindset.
Jedo Dec 4, 2022 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Lexbot:
This version is certainly a lot less grindy,

This is the main reason I liked the game. I don't have the same energy to grind as I did in other games so I really appreciated how fast you can bring a unit up to speed in this one.
MrPibbs Dec 4, 2022 @ 8:29am 
I'd definitely play the one you have on Vita, if you really enjoy it I suggest getting Reborn once it goes on sale, then you can judge the changes for yourself. It's an awesome game regardless of version.
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Iron Breaker Dec 4, 2022 @ 10:03am 
the psp version toluct is the best gameplay/most complete. reborn is the pretiest with himan centric over balancing for artificial difficulty.
Chief Zuma Dec 4, 2022 @ 12:53pm 
I like Let Us Cling Together the most.
Obdilord Dec 4, 2022 @ 5:33pm 
The PSP Remaster is the one to play if you want to dive into older versions. Be warned that Reborn streamlined the skill system a TON. In previous versions there are a ton of skills you can equip to characters and some of them can be transferred to classes that don't learn them and stat growth is more important as well. So training a character is more important.
リュータ Dec 4, 2022 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Obdilord:
The PSP Remaster is the one to play if you want to dive into older versions. Be warned that Reborn streamlined the skill system a TON. In previous versions there are a ton of skills you can equip to characters and some of them can be transferred to classes that don't learn them and stat growth is more important as well. So training a character is more important.
Ton of skill that already preinstalled in the character and armor... uh... sure
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Date Posted: Dec 3, 2022 @ 4:48pm
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