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Maniac Aug 21, 2023 @ 9:27am
Anyone got a good miner Programm?
I just have a very simple one, the miner behavior set to the resource i want and if its full it should return to the mobile storage and unload and mine again but for some reason it constanly breaks and they dont return to mining after unloading their cargo
Originally posted by darkmathis:
That depends on what level of progression you're at.

Are you using behavior controllers yet?
Have you set up a resource commander / leader?

You can set up something basic without requiring behaviors as long as you have portable radar and signal reader (basically the first two techs you unlock)

Give the commander the radar. Set one filter to the thing you want mined, then set a second filter on it to Information > "Mineable". Redirect the output to the "Signal" register on that commander.

On the subordinates (the ones mining), add a signal reader. Point the signal reader at the commander. Take the output from the signal reader's register and direct it to the miner.

Then all you need is an intermediary to run Logistics ( wifi icon in the UI ) -> Transport Route. Set the "Go" to the commander, the "Store" to where you want it to introduce resources, and you've got something basic until you get a feel for behavior controllers.
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darkmathis Aug 21, 2023 @ 10:01am 
That depends on what level of progression you're at.

Are you using behavior controllers yet?
Have you set up a resource commander / leader?

You can set up something basic without requiring behaviors as long as you have portable radar and signal reader (basically the first two techs you unlock)

Give the commander the radar. Set one filter to the thing you want mined, then set a second filter on it to Information > "Mineable". Redirect the output to the "Signal" register on that commander.

On the subordinates (the ones mining), add a signal reader. Point the signal reader at the commander. Take the output from the signal reader's register and direct it to the miner.

Then all you need is an intermediary to run Logistics ( wifi icon in the UI ) -> Transport Route. Set the "Go" to the commander, the "Store" to where you want it to introduce resources, and you've got something basic until you get a feel for behavior controllers.
Maniac Aug 21, 2023 @ 10:14am 
Yes i use the behavior controllers, each miner has one which is set to mine and unload the cargo when full to the mobile storage.
Then i have some transporters which take the resources from the mobile storage and transport it to the base.
Since i have normal resources set i have to relocated my mining operation constantly so i have a mobile energy grid fed by transmitters

I will test your system later then, thanks
dermanus Aug 21, 2023 @ 10:47am 
I don't think you even need a behavior controller to do what you're doing. If you just set it as the target and then set the store to the mobile storage you can do what you're describing without a controller.

I'm mid game (working on drones) and the setup darthmathis described is basically what I'm doing. The miners themselves are pretty basic and there is a leader/storage bot that scans for new resources.
SnugglePilot Aug 21, 2023 @ 10:51am 
Agree that keeping your miners simple works really well. Having a singular leader that scans for more resources is easy enough; once resources start getting farther away, you can switch this to a behaviour module (so you can add in a "scout" command if it finds nothing). That works well too.

To make more room for miners, I put the behaviour in a bit early and tell the leader to "move out of range" of the resource so it kinda hangs back a bit.
Last edited by SnugglePilot; Aug 21, 2023 @ 10:52am
Nate Aug 22, 2023 @ 2:02am 
I'd worry about running into enemies with that radar + signal reader setup. Or falling off your power grid.

Its not that much effort to manually move your mobile storage bot. And also group select your mining bots to tell them to start somewhere new.
TheOrigin Aug 22, 2023 @ 3:14am 
I use this:

Commander Bot: You setup the wanted resource in the visual slot, i.e. coal which transfers to all "attached" miners. The miner only needs its goto set to the commander.

The miners will drop off their cargo into the commander so you can attach him to a storage or use another transport to empty him.

Commander:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024041692
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Miner:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024042520
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darkmathis Aug 22, 2023 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by Maniac:
Yes i use the behavior controllers, each miner has one which is set to mine and unload the cargo when full to the mobile storage.
Then i have some transporters which take the resources from the mobile storage and transport it to the base.
Since i have normal resources set i have to relocated my mining operation constantly so i have a mobile energy grid fed by transmitters

I will test your system later then, thanks

I have a *very* simple behavior controller on my commander, plus the obligatory radar.

"Visual" register into radar 1, radar out to behavior controller parameter 1.

Behavior controller takes 3 parameters :
P1 is what to set the "Signal" register to (direct output from radar)
P2 is how close to get to what I'm mining (I usually set this to 6 or 7)
P3 is what numeric to assign the "Signal" register

Copies P1 to internal var A.
Set number "A" to value of "P3" and assign to "A".
Copy "A" to "Signal".
Copy "A" to "B".
Set number "B" to value of "P2" and assign to "B"
Move to "B" (the value of it determines the loiter distance)
Wait 50 ticks (10 seconds)
-- I have another variation of this program where I pass in the wait timer so I can adjust it, but I find miner commanders spend *most* of their time idle anyway.

This is "good enough" for the early to mid game so far. If you can start beaming power to it or support it with a mobile solar unit or a chain of workers following each other with power poles equipped, then this setup requires basically no monitoring. You just have a mule assigned to be a transport route between the commander and some entry node into your base proper.

BP :

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024051597
Last edited by darkmathis; Aug 22, 2023 @ 3:46am
darkmathis Aug 22, 2023 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by darkmathis:
P3 is what numeric to assign the "Signal" register

You might be asking "why?" The reason is because the commander has a smaller inventory than 5 combined worker drones feeding it. By setting "Signal" to a numeric that the workers read, and then assigning their signal out to their miner component, they will mine until that number is in inventory and then return to deposit it.

This generally helps maintain throughput since it helps limit the thundering herd all waiting for the captain to unload his inventory to the mule before they can resume mining operations.

I just eyeball this. I assign enough workers with basic miners to produce 1 item per second in aggregate (so 5 miners for metal and crystal, 6 for blight chunks and silica), so I divide the captain's unit by that number of workers and make that the signal (it's 7 for metal/crystal and 8 for silica).
Zaflis Aug 22, 2023 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Maniac:
the miner behavior set to the resource i want and if its full it should return to the mobile storage and unload and mine again
That specific sequence can be done without any behavior and no internal modules needed.
- Set mining node a task like metal ore.
- Set storage register to the mobile storage.
... profit! That's all, it should mine to full, dump them to the mobile bot and go back to mine.
You may also want to disconnect it from the logistics network or it may interfere with it.
Last edited by Zaflis; Aug 22, 2023 @ 6:23am
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