How to defeat decks with alot gas with handtraps?

[JayDee Phoenix]

Currently Snake-eyes/Azamina/Fiendsmith decks that sometimes no matter how many handtraps I throw at them they seemingly have too much gas. What are the best chokepoints? Also on the matter, I had a game against cyberse that I resolved Maxx c and jellyfish against and handtrapped them like 10-20 times and they still ended on the boss monster unaffected with the trap.... Chokepoints for cyberse also but I dunno it doesn't seem like it matters lol. Cyberse also won in Dkayed tournament against all the new decks lol.

[JayDee Phoenix]

Originally posted by Raven:

This feels like me hurting myself since I play pure white forest/azamina, but you want to target Astellar when she is normal, Elzette if she is the first place, Silvy if she is normal. If you didn't stop them through that, then its not about preventing anymore, its board breaking. You'll want nib, lava golem, kaiju.

edit: just to clarify, if you're unlucky they can still play through the first card disruptions, but most people will play really sub optimally at that point because its going to disrupt their end board, and they wind up scrambling to cook something up, you might get a timer win at that point.

Is it me or do people not play Astellar anymore? I swear I barely see her... I norm fneg her anyways before new cards. I could try a more breaker approach deck but the point in using them over handtraps is the lack of backrow removal in my deck. I already can't run red reboot and the deck size is too large so I kinda don't want them searching any quicks/traps.
Maybe I could try it I dunno.

[Raven]

Originally posted by JayDee Phoenix:

Originally posted by Raven:

This feels like me hurting myself since I play pure white forest/azamina, but you want to target Astellar when she is normal, Elzette if she is the first place, Silvy if she is normal. If you didn't stop them through that, then its not about preventing anymore, its board breaking. You'll want nib, lava golem, kaiju.

edit: just to clarify, if you're unlucky they can still play through the first card disruptions, but most people will play really sub optimally at that point because its going to disrupt their end board, and they wind up scrambling to cook something up, you might get a timer win at that point.

Is it me or do people not play Astellar anymore? I swear I barely see her... I norm fneg her anyways before new cards. I could try a more breaker approach deck but the point in using them over handtraps is the lack of backrow removal in my deck. I already can't run red reboot and the deck size is too large so I kinda don't want them searching any quicks/traps.
Maybe I could try it I dunno.

It's my bad, please ignore what I wrote before, I went on how to counter white forest, but you are playing against the snake-eye variant. Yugioh players are never going to beat the reading allegations... I'm sorry you read that :(

Anyway, for snake-eyes and fiend smith, its a pain. A lot of people are actively choosing to go second because rather than attempt to stop them from going full combo, its just way easier to break the board through lava golem, nib, kaiju, raigeki, lightning storm, etc.

edit: if you're going to nib, do it before they get Azamina Ilia Silvia on the field or another card to prevent nib.

[JayDee Phoenix]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by JayDee Phoenix:

Is it me or do people not play Astellar anymore? I swear I barely see her... I norm fneg her anyways before new cards. I could try a more breaker approach deck but the point in using them over handtraps is the lack of backrow removal in my deck. I already can't run red reboot and the deck size is too large so I kinda don't want them searching any quicks/traps.
Maybe I could try it I dunno.

It's my bad, please ignore what I wrote before, I went on how to counter white forest, but you are playing against the snake-eye variant. Yugioh players are never going to beat the reading allegations... I'm sorry you read that :(

Anyway, for snake-eyes and fiend smith, its a pain. A lot of people are actively choosing to go second because rather than attempt to stop them from going full combo, its just way easier to break the board through lava golem, nib, kaiju, raigeki, lightning storm, etc.

edit: if you're going to nib, do it before they get Azamina Ilia Silvia on the field or another card to prevent nib.

Yeah that card is annoying. I don't run more high powered handtraps like droll/nib in my current deck because they sort of clash with cards in my deck but guess I could also try that and swap them out.