You Screw it Up Again!

[taznkid]

We recently went through a spiel about how loaner decks are garbage, and Konami made some of them better.

Now, I've only gotten through a few of the gates in the SP Challenge, but good lord, I know you are aiming for nostalgia, but these decks are some bricky garbage. Especially the Harpie's one.

Let's give you an extremely bricky monster line up. Then let's give the Harpie deck some monster negates and easy to access removal so your boss monsters do nothing. Game Tip! Rely on your Spells and Traps because of this!

PSA: It's a Harpie deck so they are going to blow out your backrow. I literally just had to repeat this until the AI bricked. Like, I have to do minus plays to bring out any semblance of field control with a monster, and here I have the AI Harpie plussing like crazy and filling entire monster zone for a OTK. Actually made me rage.

[Nichole24]

Just wait until you get to Dark Spellian. That one is just especially cruel imo

[Kreuz]

Originally posted by Nichole24:

Just wait until you get to Dark Spellian. That one is just especially cruel imo

For real.

Like, I am fan of mixing archetypes together, but there's just no synergy with the level monsters and gadgets lol.

Especially if the AI gets Dark Magic Circle online.

EDIT: I did have some fun with the Court of Cards decks tho, those were fun and I love to craft them if I was not so strapped for resources.

[Papa Shekels]

Still at the world chalice story since I only play a few duels maybe twice a week, but this is starting to sound fun. After all the bs going through the entire link evolution campaign and reverse duels with only story decks, I can't wait to see what those masochists managed to dream up

[Just end trashbag.]

no negate, no useful monster, full of useless card, rng like stupid for us while bots get 3 head while i never ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get 2 heads playing lucky punch. gems behind loaner on dark magician, reawrd are ass. Great konami. Whoever come with this retarded idea dont touch food. Go to sewer and eat the thing under your slippers. This more adding to stupidity. Just because most of us doesnt care about the story too hard survey doesnt mean everybody want this stupid challenge of yours. What an ass.

[Master_Xanthan]

The loaner deck that you have to use against the Toon deck is terrible. 2 duels in a row I bricked so badly I couldn't summon a monster at all and I very quickly lost both times.

[itzRiceKrispies]

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Still at the world chalice story since I only play a few duels maybe twice a week, but this is starting to sound fun. After all the bs going through the entire link evolution campaign and reverse duels with only story decks, I can't wait to see what those masochists managed to dream up

I'm only a few duels in. Just beat the Elementsabers and Monarchs before them. For the most part as long as u understand what the decks r trying to do(I.e Win Condition) u can usually tell by your opening hand whether or not u even have a chance. In the aforementioned Esaber match after 2 losses(1 in which my opening hand was Harpies Feather Duster, Pyrorex, Umbramirage, Phosphorage, and Overworked(crappy trap) I immediately gave up.)

How I beat the A.I was I got the Field spell(Palace) in conjunction with Elemental Training(good trap), then I used Palace to load up my grave with the main sabers while I special summoned both of my Lapauila Manas' boosted them up to 3,600 atk and after my battle phases finally came back I swung for game.

My biggest complaint is how long some of these duels can take. The above strat took around 30 mins.(admittedly I wasn't that familiar with this deck, but thats where there is some fun in this, in learning about Archetypes u haven't played much of before).

[taznkid]

Originally posted by ILikeRiceKrispies:

Originally posted by Papa Shekels:

Still at the world chalice story since I only play a few duels maybe twice a week, but this is starting to sound fun. After all the bs going through the entire link evolution campaign and reverse duels with only story decks, I can't wait to see what those masochists managed to dream up

I'm only a few duels in. Just beat the Elementsabers and Monarchs before them. For the most part as long as u understand what the decks r trying to do(I.e Win Condition) u can usually tell by your opening hand whether or not u even have a chance. In the aforementioned Esaber match after 2 losses(1 in which my opening hand was Harpies Feather Duster, Pyrorex, Umbramirage, Phosphorage, and Overworked(crappy trap) I immediately gave up.)

How I beat the A.I was I got the Field spell(Palace) in conjunction with Elemental Training(good trap), then I used Palace to load up my grave with the main sabers while I special summoned both of my Lapauila Manas' boosted them up to 3,600 atk and after my battle phases finally came back I swung for game.

My biggest complaint is how long some of these duels can take. The above strat took around 30 mins.(admittedly I wasn't that familiar with this deck, but thats where there is some fun in this, in learning about Archetypes u haven't played much of before).

Lol I can't wait until you get to Laval Gem Knights, or Zefra Dinomists, then I feel like you will do a quick 180. For some of those decks, it really isn't about "understanding your win condition", because your "win condition" is either extremely conditional, directly countered (like I mentioned above with the Harpie thing), or just straight up weak (like the last World Legacy story mission).

[taznkid]

Originally posted by Master_Xanthan:

The loaner deck that you have to use against the Toon deck is terrible. 2 duels in a row I bricked so badly I couldn't summon a monster at all and I very quickly lost both times.

I got super lucky and drew a Dark Magician and Eternal Soul into a next turn Dark Magic Attack.

[Digihuman]

The main offender is that Konami built the opponent's decks using all the consistency-boosting legacy cards, while refusing to give you consistency-booster cards AND making your deck bricky for no good reason.

If both sides' decks were equally bricky by using only legacy cards it wouldn't be as bad.

[⟢K◆t◈O❖m⟣]

Yeah the solo is badly designed because until you get the right flow of cards that give immediate advantage you are better off restarting/surrender each time. It's like being a safe cracker turning the dial until the numbers all connect in line!

[Kitsune GG]

Anyone want to Petition Konami to send the who ever made the loaners to go play them at LGS tourney's so they get it drilled into their head they are bad at deck design?

Yes we know they don't want to just give us the win in solo mode, but at least give us a reliable chance and not praying for an AI brick to win with the Loaners.

[⟢K◆t◈O❖m⟣]

Originally posted by Kitsune GG:

Anyone want to Petition Konami to send the who ever made the loaners to go play them at LGS tourney's so they get it drilled into their head they are bad at deck design?

Yes we know they don't want to just give us the win in solo mode, but at least give us a reliable chance and not praying for an AI brick to win with the Loaners.

Not sure if this is coincidence or if players already do leave Loaner play until last in the gates but I find if you complete the Gate with your deck before the Loaner it has lowered the replay time?

[Nexusshark]

Why does Konami keep making these bricky loaner decks, while the AI keeps getting the right cards to consistently make their plays and counter whatever I'm even lucky enough play. How is this even fair?