to Team Ninja

[I]

After Nioh every following title (Nioh2,Wu Shlong) is gradually becoming worse.
From music, characters, story and down to the combat.
It's time for developers to stop the conveyer and do a research on what they're doing bad wrong and how to improve things.

[D. Flame]

Nioh 2 was better than Nioh 1.

[met aalfret naar zee]

Wu Shlong? Well, ok...
Music is good, but maybe they reused a bit too much.
Characters are great, aside from Tianzhushan characters and some people that are somehow missing (Gongsun Zan, some others)
Combat is good too, aside from some weird animations.
Story...barebones and I don´t agree with their decisions (Diaochan, Lu Bu for example)
They certainly cut some corners

[Žviks]

How is Nioh 2 worse than 1?

[Kashra Fall]

Nioh 2 surpassed nioh 1 in everyway MINUS the story telling, as nioh 1 was based on an amazing backstory. Nioh 2 was ok in that regard, but nioh wins that one in my book. However the lore/way you got it in nioh 2 was infinitely better.

[Bloody Mess]

are you on crack? Nioh 2 is MILES better than the first one my guy

[Baron01]

Originally posted by I:

After Nioh every following title (Nioh2,Wu Shlong) is gradually becoming worse.
...

Just a small correction, "after Nioh 2 every following title..." "Wo Shlong" >3

Nioh 2 was absolutely better than Nioh in pretty much all aspects. Nioh was decent start but the game felt bit shallow and was lacking in proper end-game. Nioh 2 fixed that and added lot of good gearing options, complex combat mechanics to master and solid build creation options.

[met aalfret naar zee]

I have better memories of Nioh 1, every part of the story was way better than in 2. The demon bosses too, so much better. The lore, etc.
Nioh 2 ofcourse expands on the combat, and the graphics.
But I think I still like 1 better.

[Senki]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Nioh 2 was better than Nioh 1.

this

It's like a massive upgrade in every aspect

[AILAD]

Nioh 2 wasn't perfect or anything but it was far better than the first Nioh, and it was a really good game.

The drop in quality at Team Ninja started with Stranger of Paradise and continues with Wo Long.

Rise of the Ronin, Team Ninja's open world game, is coming out next year. If it's another b-team low budget low quality game like SoP and Wo Long I will just write off Team Ninja as a one-hit wonder.

[Žviks]

Originally posted by met aalfret naar zee:

Nioh 2 ofcourse expands on the combat.

And combat is like 99% of the game.

[peep]

Lmao... Wu Schlong

[Senki]

Originally posted by RevelationSpace:

Rise of the Ronin, Team Ninja's open world game, is coming out next year. If it's another b-team low budget low quality game like SoP and Wo Long I will just write off Team Ninja as a one-hit wonder.

It's directed by the same guy that directed Nioh 2 so I'm assuming it's not a B team project. Wo Long wasn't.

Though it can easily be a failure since it's their first attempt at an open world instead of just missions

[Tiasmoon]

I thought in terms of balancing Youkai Counter & Abilities made Nioh 2 a bit too gimmicky, drawing away the focus from the core of the combat. Aside from that I also think it improved upon Nioh in most areas. The most obvious ones for me being the storytelling and music.

[AILAD]

Originally posted by Senki:

It's directed by the same guy that directed Nioh 2 so I'm assuming it's not a B team project. Wo Long wasn't.

It's not directed by the same guy...

Look at the credits:

Nioh 2 is directed by Fumihiko Yasuda.

Wo Long is directed by Masakazu Hirayama and Hidehiko Nakajima.

Yasuda is the president of Team Ninja so he's involved in Wo Long as a producer but he's not director like he was in Nioh 2. That's probably because he's busy working on Rise of the Ronin with the rest of the A team.

[hemorrhage911]

The story and dialogue in this game is one of the worst I've come across in a while. Also this game should have just been a boss rush, the level design is so terrible it's a chore to go through and the morale system does not help with exploring. I still hate it and looking for holes to put a flag in is not fun to me. And whoever thought locking Wizadry behind morale should be fired immediately.