Why the review are so bad ?

[Emperor of Frogs]

Didn't even read anything about the promises around the release etc.. So why review are that bad ? What's wrong ?

Is it a matter of gameplay or optimisation or something else ?

[ele]

I assume it's too hard for people so they cry about it. It's a really good game.

[GeraltoDaRiviano]

Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Most of the pc bombing is from kb elitist that don't know how to use or buy a controller.

What a clown... Most crappy argument ever.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FIFA plays better on K&M.

This game has been released on PC were default input is K&M, PC gamers are charged 70€ to play this game, there is no excuses for lack of K&M support, and especially stupid comments like this.

Imagine how hard console users would cry , if right stick from controller was removed or PS/Xbox icons replaced with K&M icons.

[KneeKo]

Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Most of the pc bombing is from kb elitist that don't know how to use or buy a controller.

No. More than 50% of the negative reviews is for the extremely lazy port. This game is much more expensive than a more properly ported predecessor game (Nioh 2, but even then that was a bad port too), and it somehow managed to be worse in performance. I mean even cutscenes are capped to 20 FPS. Why 20 FPS? I don't know.

Add up the fact that the game's graphical fidelity is EXACTLY as Nioh 2's, the only difference is having more Ambient Occlusion, and of course the theme. It even uses the same engine, but somehow they were greedy enough to charge 3x Nioh 2 but never properly ported it.

I for one hope it stays in mixed. They should be held accountable for charging so much on a poorly ported game, and not even properly optimizing the difficulty balance.

[GeraltoDaRiviano]

♥♥♥♥♥♥ controls and performance and other PC things, are only a few of many things that makes this game bad.

The game is nowhere near "good".
Good game has, good gameplay, good visuals, story, and everything polished.
Souls fanboys don't even like this game, and they like to ride every "soulslike game d1ck" that's what they do with every half baked From Software game.

Team Ninja again took one, two things from FromSoftware games, and created new game around that, who knows maybe even 5, they are like that typical Asian bootleg factory.

WoLong at core is stuck in Asian X360/PS3 dev market era, with all the flaws.
Dumb AI across the board, jumping looks stiff and terrible.

Who the hell binds parry and dodge to the same button? Supervisors in they team must be dumb or were drunk.
Fighting over and over the same mobs, because Team Ninja doesn't know what variety means.

Locations don't stand out, look at From Software games, almost every location is a "hood classic".

There is a spark in combat, but it's nothing new, recycled thing already done multiple times by otheres.

This game brings nothing new to the table, instead re-uses old things and does them in a worse way, creating junk that is packaged in outdated look.

[krumplistészta]

Originally posted by Førty:

Originally posted by Kaherdin:

Mmmmh indeed that things about parry looks terrible...






Even with high end config ? I've an rtx 3090

I strongly believe the deflection+Dodge system in a single keybind expands the difficulty to a lower amount, for more users to be able to access it. Deflection/Parrying & Dodge are still a high skill cap system, but putting it all into one button with a seperate button for guarding allow for exciting combos.

On the other hand, I've a GTX 3060 and I run flawlessly with naught a single drop.

A lot of the negative reviews that are based around poor performance, don't include their system specs because they're ashamed? of having lesser systems or haven't the currency to upgrade it yet, however it'd be quite helpful to be able to actually measure each review's specs against the game.

Instead we're left to believe that they all have 2000+ series graphics cards or GTX 660s lol.. Not sure which to believe since they don't include it, so we can't really judge if they're being salty douches or if they have genuine cause for their negative review. It's not the games fault that the outdated PCs can't run it, it's a newer game..

First of all, there isn't any graphics card on the market thats called GTX 3060.

"It's a newer game" This clown says its a newer game... So let me tell you something if you didn't realise it for some unknown reason. The game looks like a PS2 era game, the world is small, you're running through corridor-like paths, the textures low res even at high settings, the shadows are horrible etc etc.. the game is a mess graphics wise and there is no reason this game should require up-to-date brand new CPU and GPU. Period.

Now lets go a few years back and look at games like RDR2, Horizon ZD, Far Cry 5, Division 1&2, Battlefront 1&2, Battlefield series just to mention some. Look at these games' scale and graphics. These games' graphics are near to photorealistic, a LOT going on on the screen and I could run them at high settings almost all of them at or above 60 fps easily with my i5-4460&GTX 1060 6GB with 12GB DDR3 RAM AND NEVER encountered stutters or crashes every 5 minutes.

Oh I almost forgot, Atomic Heart which is a "nEwEr" game also ran at 100-120 FPS on med-high settings and looks 100x better than this eastern garbage.

How about Hogwarts Legacy? By turning the fog off the game ran perfectly on low-med settings at 50-60 fps for hours without any stutter after the shaders loaded.

So there you go here is my spec, I brought up big AAA titles which ran perfectly so what about Wo Long? This techinal marvel PC port of Wo Long which looks like something from 2003. I know you're really proud of your "GTX 3060" and trashes everyone who has worse but please try to come up with something that justifies your argument because this "tHe gAmE iS nEwEr sO bUy beTteR pC" ♥♥♥♥ is pure cringe..😂😂😂

[Veica]

Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Most of the pc bombing is from kb elitist that don't know how to use or buy a controller.

He's not entirely wrong. The clown awards must be from the kb elitists too.

[Spartan]

Originally posted by Kaherdin:

Didn't even read anything about the promises around the release etc.. So why review are that bad ? What's wrong ?

Is it a matter of gameplay or optimisation or something else ?

. cant play the game like many many many ppl. We paid for the game and a lot of people got stuck in 1 black screen intro. Vp9 extension will help 1/10 people maybe. Such a thing should not take place. The creators do not contact people who bought the game. For my part, it goes everywhere 0/10 or 1/10 if I can't give 0. garbage game.

[karimzouaber]

Because for alot of people me included the game wont launch and im playing on a i79700k and 2080ti. No game has ever ran this poor, not cyberpunk, hogwarts legacy or elden ring.

[Kitasake]

I'm playing on Xbox Game Pass on my PC and it took over 2 hours of internet searching and fixing to be able to even play with me controller. Also I ended up fighting the same boss over and over again because the button combination to summon the divine beast stopped working. Also deflecting the bosses' attacks are completely random as sometimes the game just doesn't recognize that the button was pushed at the proper time. The game has some major issues. It could be a good game, but it was poorly and lazily developed and thus is getting negative reviews.

Also on comments on how well the game plays, I have a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, and played Elden Ring on ultra settings with no issues. In this game I am running into flickering and frame rate issues.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by Widget:

Demo doesn't even launch, game is utterly broken.

Demo has a ton of performance issues. Launch game still has some, but nowhere near as bad. Comparable to issues that Nioh 1 & 2 had at launch. Demo for me was almost unplayable.

I dont know if I enjoy all the changes compared to Nioh. Im not a fan of the rpg elements being reduced a lot. (its still way more then Fromsoft games tho)

That said its still a good game. Reason for reviews being bad is a combination of the issues (lowering it to mixed) and Chinese review bombing. (lowering it to negative)

For anyone looking to try it I would recommend trying the game to see how performance is and refunding if its terrible. If it isnt, it should be a good experience if you are familiar with other Team Ninja games like Nioh 1 & Nioh 2.

[Sovery_Simple]

Originally posted by Kaherdin:

Originally posted by FreshRevenge:

Most of the pc bombing is from kb elitist that don't know how to use or buy a controller.

Yikes playing a souls like/Nioh like with kb is suicidal

Nah, it was fine in Nioh 2.

Then they somehow lost their collective ♥♥♥♥ between then and now in regards to KB+M layouts apparently.

[eontype]

Originally posted by ExacTed . Kaherdin:

Didn't even read anything about the promises around the release etc.. So why review are that bad ? What's wrong ?

Is it a matter of gameplay or optimisation or something else ?

Terrible pc optimization, pc hackers/cheaters ruining all pvp and co-op, 0 need morale system that has no real purpose other than gateing your spells early on(you can get a "0 cost death" by buying one at a flag foe 30000 copper which is like 1 salvaged item and you get 30 per dungeon, over powered/useless spells depending on bosses and spec, near pointless over abundance of stats that are overly complex, and a parry system that makes the gameplay rigged toward fast attacking weapons which are locked once again behind certain specs via the "scaling" aspect.
The game doesn't really start until new game. Tons of crashes.
Everything wrong you could imagine with a souls like is wrong with it.
Bad story, bad design, your own coop allies body block you, you can accidentally over level/underlevel hard, the game is tedious and time consuming not hard.
Lets see if I missed anything.
Oh yeah random pvp invasions, that you can turn off at will, so invaders only end up vs Complete Newbs, or 3 stacked hacker goon squads.
Screen tears, fps drops, game not loading in, enemies not loading in, crashes at boss fights, forced map swaps just to reload back, mission system locking you into having to mess with the "travel" button and 3 1min loading screens every mission if you want to level up your gear/weapons(which the level up system is per item not per play so changing builds is suboptimal and tediously grindy).
You name it everthing is subparly done to make 9 or so boss fight game take 2 days. If you fought every story boss, and no mobs, game would be over in like 20 mins. The non-story "bosses" mini-bosses are just standard enemies but with names. Storage system is trash.
That being said. If it ran properly it would be a 6/10 or a 7/10. Its somewhere between release anthem and release cyberpunk 2077.

[Karumati]

Originally posted by ExacTed . Kaherdin:

Didn't even read anything about the promises around the release etc.. So why review are that bad ? What's wrong ?

Is it a matter of gameplay or optimisation or something else ?

Most are I believe written by fools that enjoy mouse and keyboard in souls type games

[Sch4bern4ck]

PC optimization is poor, it runs for me after the first patch with only minor problems. It is Nioh with Sekiro inspired combat and damn is it fun. They scaled back on the complexity of Nioh a bit, but most of it is still here, sets, reroll on stats, your guardian spirit equivalent etc. You can jump and it has the best level design TN put out this far imo. Content is on par or slightly less than Nioh 1 pre DLC.

[Sch4bern4ck]

I mean how can you hate it. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHucNlaylXY&t=62s