Denuvo

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

When will this anti consumer thing removed?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Mr Jt (Justice for Johnny):

Denuvo - When will this anti consumer thing removed?

If you are here for an answer you have to consult official support.

"Official support account for Capcom USA: Send us an e-mail at [e-mail] ! Or, you can open a Customer Service Ticket by going to www.capcom.com/support and clicking "Contact Us". European users can e-mail [e-mail] for all customer support inquiries Users in Asia can e-mail [e-mail] for all customer support inquiries."

[Popcorn]

More likely in the next two years

[Polysorbate]

There's a special satisfaction knowing pirates can't play. Feels good. Feels righteous.

Have you tried not being poor? 🤔

[Schrodinger's Left Nut]

Originally posted by Polysorbate42:

There's a special satisfaction knowing pirates can't play. Feels good. Feels righteous.

Have you tried not being poor? 🤔

Have you tried rubbing a few brain cells together to form a lucid thought? Denuvo is bad. Though it's less an issue with Rise just because it isn't the most demanding game.... it puts a huge strain on cpu use which typically causes lower performance than denuvo-free games of equal resource demand.

WITH THAT SAID, even without the performance woes it brings around, it writes excessively to storage which drastically shortens the lifespan of ssd's (even the good ones with a nice cache and adaptive access).

Plz don't simp for this trash, it's a blemish on otherwise good games.

[Polysorbate]

Originally posted by Bokrug:

Denuvo is righteous and objectively good

Agreed.

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by Polysorbate42:

There's a special satisfaction knowing pirates can't play. Feels good. Feels righteous.

Have you tried not being poor? 🤔

What's funny, with both World and Rise, pirates that did get around denuvo have said there barely any performance change at all.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Bokrug:

WITH THAT SAID, even without the performance woes it brings around, it writes excessively to storage which drastically shortens the lifespan of ssd's (even the good ones with a nice cache and adaptive access).

No. It doesn't.

That is a lie that has been endlessly regurgitated for YEARS with nothing to actually back it except "dude, trust me".

Meanwhile, you can monitor disk usage easily. It's pretty blatantly obvious it's false.

[kampfer91]

Denuvo still need to use some of ram memory to send the certification sign back to server . Whatever the truth it is , denuvo still a program and have a task to be done .

And pirate still play the game as usual . Denuvo is nothing but a scam that dev keep throwing money at to protect 1% more sale .

One day denuvo server may get a hipcup and all of ours game are labeled as pirated version.

[DeathvRaider]

Originally posted by Polysorbate42:

There's a special satisfaction knowing pirates can't play. Feels good. Feels righteous.

Have you tried not being poor? 🤔

That's one of the cringiest things I've heard ngl

[Kinzuko]

Originally posted by Polysorbate42:

There's a special satisfaction knowing pirates can't play. Feels good. Feels righteous.

Have you tried not being poor? 🤔

its not about that- i personally wont buy some games because of Denuvo. nearly didnt buy world because of it.

reason?
1.) if you dont play for a while and decide to play offline after all that time Denuvo cant phone home and confirm you own the game (it does this every couple months i believe) this prevented me from playing Mad Max from steam during a massive and long standing internet service outage a couple years back.

2.) it can cause serious performance degradation. i definitely felt it in world on middling hardware.

3.) Steam is already DRM enough- doubling down on DRM is dumb.

4.) piracy doesnt hurt sales of a product- most pirates are either wanting to check the game out (if there isnt a demo or its a very bad demo), dont intend on buying the game, or the game simply isnt available to them (banned in their country, government fees way too steep, now way to buy the game, or simply their internet is too slow and/or restrictive for anything other than a well seeded torrent.)


in my time ive only ever pirated a handful of games and software. and ive bought probably 70% of it.

also tbh- your a pretty weird nerd defending a multi million dollar media company for frankly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices that only hurt paying customers and do nothing to pirates.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Kinzuko:

2.) it can cause serious performance degradation. i definitely felt it in world on middling hardware.

You felt the CRC check and capcom's godawful anti cheat. The latter of which was removed shortly after iceborne launched. The former is still there ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ things up.

All the removal of denuvo really did was speed up the game launching.

3.) Steam is already DRM enough- doubling down on DRM is dumb.

Not really. Not saying more drm is needed, but, steam's drm is and has been laughable for over a decade. If it wasn't an absolute joke, publishers wouldn't feel the need to tack on more layers.

4.) piracy doesnt hurt sales of a product-

Only partially correct. Titan Quest was substantially hurt by piracy in its early days.

[amathy]

Originally posted by kampfer91:

And pirate still play the game as usual

Pirates can't play the game at all.

Originally posted by Kinzuko:

3.) Steam is already DRM enough- doubling down on DRM is dumb.

Steam DRM is a joke, you don't even have to know what you're doing to crack it. There is a reason why every game that only has Steam DRM is on every P2P site day 1 while there's currently a year long backlog of Denuvo games that haven't been cracked.

[Haka]

Originally posted by Polysorbate42:

I base my self-worth off of owning a video game

Cringe ngl

[Lemale]

Originally posted by amathy oniichan uwu:

Originally posted by kampfer91:

And pirate still play the game as usual

Pirates can't play the game at all.

Originally posted by Kinzuko:

3.) Steam is already DRM enough- doubling down on DRM is dumb.

Steam DRM is a joke, you don't even have to know what you're doing to crack it. There is a reason why every game that only has Steam DRM is on every P2P site day 1 while there's currently a year long backlog of Denuvo games that haven't been cracked.

Drm in general is a joke but steam drm is very light and this at least isn’t all to bad.Whats really a joke are people which defen this cancer. And yes it gets cracked but it takes sometime plus denuvo doesnt boost sales it only hurts honest customers and satisfies the shareholders

[amathy]

Originally posted by The Knight:

Drm in general is a joke but steam drm is very light and this at least isn’t all to bad.Whats really a joke are people which defen this cancer. And yes it gets cracked but it takes sometime plus denuvo doesnt boost sales it only hurts honest customers and satisfies the shareholders

Steam DRM is actually pointless, there is literally no discussion there. "It takes some time" is an understatement, if you can read I said there is a YEAR long backlog of uncracked games. The Denuvo cracking scene is dead, 2 games have been cracked in the last year. For the foreseeable future the most likely method for pirates to get access is the developers/publishers removing Denuvo, not it getting cracked. Nothing else you said has anything to do with my comment so I'd appreciate it if you didn't reply to me for intellectually comatose circlejerking.