So... What Now??

[rainistorm]

**Spoilers ahead for end of game***

Okay, so I defeated Dynus after grinding my combat to max. Completed the quest, got a plush for it and...that was it?? The fog on the train is still there, there's zero dialogue from anyone in Sun Haven about any sort of resolution and, most annoying, I didn't get anything I'd get for completing the shrines (most importantly, access to the glorite cave and glorite smelter). Here I am thinking what the hell? Did they not expect anyone to fight him???

So I finish the damn shrines. Frankly, a redundant museum but fine. And still...nothing happens. I have the rewards and mining access and all that, but there's no resolution to the game. The fog is still there, no comments from anyone, nothing. It's like this game isn't finished.

I played early access (went shrine route right off the bat first time as museum didn't yet exist) and now playing a new full save of the game, I expected an actual ending. What now?? Am I somehow missing something, or is there literally no ending to this game?

[One (1) Lini]

The 1.0 release post has this near the very bottom of it.

Coming Soon:
(list is not final and is very, very subject to change)
- Nintendo Switch Port
- More Player Customization
- More Pets
- More Race Specific Dialogue
- Having children with your spouse
- Farm Buildings (Sheds / Greenhouses)
- Proximity Animations
- Minor DLCs
- Main Story Epilogue"

So yeah, no epilogue to the story as of yet, and no real ETA on it either from what I can see. Might be some info on the discord, but I refuse to join private discords for games where the devs have all the control on what people can say, so I couldn't tell you.

[Gilver Redgrave]

They announced at release that the Epilog is coming at a later patch.

[rainistorm]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

They announced at release that the Epilog is coming at a later patch.

That's... not what an epilogue is. There's a difference between an epilogue and the literal ending of the game.

[rainistorm]

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

The 1.0 release post has this near the very bottom of it.

Coming Soon:
(list is not final and is very, very subject to change)
- Nintendo Switch Port
- More Player Customization
- More Pets
- More Race Specific Dialogue
- Having children with your spouse
- Farm Buildings (Sheds / Greenhouses)
- Proximity Animations
- Minor DLCs
- Main Story Epilogue"

So yeah, no epilogue to the story as of yet, and no real ETA on it either from what I can see. Might be some info on the discord, but I refuse to join private discords for games where the devs have all the control on what people can say, so I couldn't tell you.

Well that's ridiculous. They've released a "full game" without even putting an ending in?

[Puchbol]

"Full Game" and "1.0" used to mean "Feature Complete"; now, it just means "We need more fools to beta-test and give a quick cash-influx; we'll also make sure the beginning is complete enough to move players out of the refund window."

Most of my "Recently Played" are in this state; I miss actually-completed games.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by rainistorm:

That's... not what an epilogue is. There's a difference between an epilogue and the literal ending of the game.

While youre not wrong youre also not right.

In some cases revealing a "conclusion" also spoils something for the epilog. For example. After beating Dynus it could be that he gives us another quest which of course would be weird because why give us a quest we cant even start ? Or it could be revealed that Dynus was corrupted by some sentient force which would spil the epilog.

So depending on how the epilog goes it makes sense not giving us a conclusion. Sure there are more elegant ways of doing it but give indie devs a little freedom. Even a short ending costs money.

[One (1) Lini]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by rainistorm:

That's... not what an epilogue is. There's a difference between an epilogue and the literal ending of the game.

While youre not wrong youre also not right.

In some cases revealing a "conclusion" also spoils something for the epilog. For example. After beating Dynus it could be that he gives us another quest which of course would be weird because why give us a quest we cant even start ? Or it could be revealed that Dynus was corrupted by some sentient force which would spil the epilog.

So depending on how the epilog goes it makes sense not giving us a conclusion. Sure there are more elegant ways of doing it but give indie devs a little freedom. Even a short ending costs money.

I was with you until the last two sentences. Yes, showing understanding for indie devs is good, but releasing a game without a proper ending should not be considered acceptable. That's what you have early access for, and the Sun Haven devs should be responsible for delivering a complete product once they take the game out of it.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

I was with you until the last two sentences. Yes, showing understanding for indie devs is good, but releasing a game without a proper ending should not be considered acceptable. That's what you have early access for, and the Sun Haven devs should be responsible for delivering a complete product once they take the game out of it.

Meanwhile there are people spending thousands of money on kickstarters without even knowing if the game ever releases.

As i said before give indie devs some freedom. You can be happy they delivered a game in the first place just with a few flaws. After all its not like the ending isnt coming at all. I dont know if you know the game Monster Crown but THAT is an unfinished game and the devs are pretty much silent.

[One (1) Lini]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

I was with you until the last two sentences. Yes, showing understanding for indie devs is good, but releasing a game without a proper ending should not be considered acceptable. That's what you have early access for, and the Sun Haven devs should be responsible for delivering a complete product once they take the game out of it.

Meanwhile there are people spending thousands of money on kickstarters without even knowing if the game ever releases.

As i said before give indie devs some freedom. You can be happy they delivered a game in the first place just with a few flaws. After all its not like the ending isnt coming at all. I dont know if you know the game Monster Crown but THAT is an unfinished game and the devs are pretty much silent.

Perhaps I am just oldfashioned, but if I pay for the non-early access of a game I should be recieving a FULL GAME. Not including the ending is what you have early access for, and if you don't have a completed game you really shouldn't take it out of early access.

If you pledge on kickstarter or buy early access, you know it's a bit of a gamble, but neither of those are the same as purchasing a game that has hit 1.0.

[uchihanderson03]

Im pretty sure they felt forced to release the game sooner them they actually wanted because of some controversy involving their studio. So yeah, the game is officially released but its not finished, however to their credit this is clearly stated everywhere so its not like they are lying about it.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

Perhaps I am just oldfashioned, but if I pay for the non-early access of a game I should be recieving a FULL GAME. Not including the ending is what you have early access for, and if you don't have a completed game you really shouldn't take it out of early access.

Would be odd if you payed full price for games with DLCs. Would make you look like a hypocrite.

DLCs these days are literally used to release games early and sell the missing content later for another full price purchase without you noticing. People literally pay for unfinished games for over a decade now. Cow needs to be Milked after all. And with cow i mean the leather your walled it made off. And with Milk i mean your money.

So yes. You are kinda old fashioned.

[One (1) Lini]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

Perhaps I am just oldfashioned, but if I pay for the non-early access of a game I should be recieving a FULL GAME. Not including the ending is what you have early access for, and if you don't have a completed game you really shouldn't take it out of early access.

Would be odd if you payed full price for games with DLCs. Would make you look like a hypocrite.

DLCs these days are literally used to release games early and sell the missing content later for another full price purchase without you noticing. People literally pay for unfinished games for over a decade now. Cow needs to be Milked after all. And with cow i mean the leather your walled it made off. And with Milk i mean your money.

So yes. You are kinda old fashioned.:ImoriBlep:

You're really going to defend this by saying the the literal ending of the game is the same as DLC? Really?

Sorry but you're not going to change my mind on this. If a game with a story gets out of EA and is labeled a full release, then the ending to said story really should be included in said full release, you can expand on it later on, but there should be a satisfactory ending to the story that is in the game. That should be the baseline of expectation.

[MegaMan]

I don't regret most of my time with this game, but if Dynus really is the end of the story content, I'll be really disappointed. Most of my time was spent getting currency for the pay gate quests and I was really expecting more from the story content.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by One (1) Lini:

You're really going to defend this by saying the the literal ending of the game is the same as DLC? Really?

No i m not defending this by making it the same as a DLC. I am saying people that like games with DLCs but piss on this one because literally only the end sequence is missing are hypocrits.

If youre one of those people bad for you. If youre not good for you. You can stay with your opinion but your opinion is from a different age and time. Welcome in 2023.

[Rotan]

Originally posted by uchihanderson03:

Im pretty sure they felt forced to release the game sooner them they actually wanted because of some controversy involving their studio. So yeah, the game is officially released but its not finished, however to their credit this is clearly stated everywhere so its not like they are lying about it.

Clearly stated? they took it out of EA, Should still be EA so people know what they are buying and needs a warning about multiplayer.

There are so many bugs right now I would have been pissed if I bought it.

(I bought it in EA at .8) and was here for the 1.0 patch. It had minor bugs back then, but nothing like what it has now