Tripwire delete and locking threads.

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It's bass ackwards to tell people their complaints are perfectly valid but delete it anyway because "I don't like your tone."

Your not grade school teachers or HR ladies. You're software peddlers.

And you're doing a poor job at listening to people who are trying to help you peddle your next piece of software.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by X-Rouge:

Same here my thread was deleted after i posted this:

Sorry for my english...

KF2, following in the footsteps of the first installment, is exceptional. In my opinion, it is THE ultimate zombie wave shooter. Back when Call of Duty Zombies was at its peak, KF2 stood as its great and only competitor !

I probably have an "unpopular opinion," but I'm increasingly worried about what I see coming for KF3. On KF2, I have around 1,500 hours on PS4/PS5, and what has always defined Killing Floor since the first game is being able to choose whatever class you want and pair it with the character of your choice. The idea of having "specialists" tied to specific classes now takes away a lot of that freedom of choice.

On top of that, adding weapon customization (sights, barrels, magazines, etc.) feels unnecessary to me. I've always liked simply picking the weapon I want and switching to another one when needed—no need for all these extras.

Granted, I admit I’m a total boomer who grew up in the golden age of shooters like Call of Duty 4, WaW, MW2, BO1, MW3, BO2, and even Battlefield 3. Back then, you didn’t have to customize everything under the sun… and I think that’s what I miss the most today.

While it’s completely counterintuitive to say, “I don’t like it when there are too many additions and customizations,” it’s precisely that simplicity of the past that I deeply long for.

-It isn't deleted, it looks like you posted it in "Ideas, Feedback, and Suggestions" subforum. Maybe you created it there on accident?

[Frosty]

lol these mods and their tone/thought policing.. we need the old internet back before everyone's skin was made of wet tissue paper

another thread was deleted, unknown if by the user or these mods. it was locked first, then had all the comments deleted with a note left by a mod saying he didn't like the tone of the messages (or something like that)

maybe i missed it when i was searching for it, but i checked all 4 subs a few times.

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here is a different locked thread where she even mentions "tone" as the reason for locking it
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1430190/discussions/0/4637112710118556209/

[X-Rouge]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

Originally posted by X-Rouge:

Same here my thread was deleted after i posted this:

Sorry for my english...

KF2, following in the footsteps of the first installment, is exceptional. In my opinion, it is THE ultimate zombie wave shooter. Back when Call of Duty Zombies was at its peak, KF2 stood as its great and only competitor !

I probably have an "unpopular opinion," but I'm increasingly worried about what I see coming for KF3. On KF2, I have around 1,500 hours on PS4/PS5, and what has always defined Killing Floor since the first game is being able to choose whatever class you want and pair it with the character of your choice. The idea of having "specialists" tied to specific classes now takes away a lot of that freedom of choice.

On top of that, adding weapon customization (sights, barrels, magazines, etc.) feels unnecessary to me. I've always liked simply picking the weapon I want and switching to another one when needed—no need for all these extras.

Granted, I admit I’m a total boomer who grew up in the golden age of shooters like Call of Duty 4, WaW, MW2, BO1, MW3, BO2, and even Battlefield 3. Back then, you didn’t have to customize everything under the sun… and I think that’s what I miss the most today.

While it’s completely counterintuitive to say, “I don’t like it when there are too many additions and customizations,” it’s precisely that simplicity of the past that I deeply long for.

-It isn't deleted, it looks like you posted it in "Ideas, Feedback, and Suggestions" subforum. Maybe you created it there on accident?

No, i posted it on: https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?forums/general-discussion.2329470/
official tripwire threads forum

[BillyBob]

I got permanently banned on Reddit just for saying DEI. I did see a locked thread as well talking about Sweet Baby Inc. Which Tripwire did have a live stream with SBI.

[IceBeam]

Originally posted by BillyBob:

I got permanently banned on Reddit just for saying DEI.

FYI, the KF subreddit is not controlled by TWI. Are you, by any chance, the author of the post titled as "these characters look like they are straight from COD and Concord?" Is your ban truly permanent? In any case, you will have to appeal your ban via the modmail.

[Frosty]

all (99.9999%) of reddit mods are turbo SJWs

unless its an official subreddit made by twi, they have no control over the mods afaik

[IceBeam]

Originally posted by Polite Killer:

So at this point, we should be having a conversation, about why Tripwire is allowing a group of SJW's to run their Killing Floor Subreddit.

The subreddit is run by volunteers from the community, it is not a property of TWI. It has been like that for a long time, and I don't think that it's the correct question to ask. It would not be in a better state if an official company representative was to moderate it. TWI has enough discussion boards under its control, and the subreddit should stay out of the company's sphere of influence.

That said, the subreddit is definitely over-moderated at the moment, but it wouldn't be correct to say that it's run by a group of certain people. Many of the previous moderators resigned, deleted their accounts, or are simply no longer active. Only one of them is still active on a regular basis, and many of the subreddit's restrictive policies are a result of that moderator's vision of what that discussion board should look like.

Originally posted by Polite Killer:

These conversations need to be had. Deleting, locking, banning, and censoring participants, because they are digging up dirt, is not an acceptable response.

I agree with that. It's not certain if that user has been banned permanently, but a temporary ban for that definitely seems like what is possible on the subreddit nowadays. The most active moderator appears to be deeply concerned with the image of the subreddit in the eyes of an impartial observer. He is not a TWI shill, but he seems to be concerned with people criticizing the subreddit for not moderating "bigotry" and "toxicity" hard enough. He believes that the topics of DEI or the upcoming game being "woke" fall into that category and will be hijacked by bad actors to troll or spread their bigoted agenda. He also believes that even remotely political discussions are prone to turning into heated arguments which will further divide the already fragmented community.

I remember the better times of that subreddit when there was more freedom of speech, and I have already expressed my concerns on that matter. I don't think that censorship is the way to go. That subreddit used to be the only place where players frustrated with TWI and the company's decisions would say what's on their minds without worrying about getting censored/banned.

That moderator is unsure how to deal with such topics. If you want to influence the situation somehow, express your concerns via the modmail and in public spaces to the extent permitted by the rules. If you think that the subreddit is over-moderated and censors too much, just say it. On the subreddit itself, here on the Steam forums, on the official TWI forums, or even in the official Discord community. There may be polls or questions addressed to the community on the subreddit in the future. If you see them, cast your vote and express your opinion.

[Burnt Toast]

They are trying to kill this game as fast as they can.

[MT]

Good practice to screenshot and screenrecord to have solid reference.

[spice_]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-There are 0 deleted threads in the past month in general discussions. I was curious and checked.

actually gaslighting?

[Bathtub Shitter]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-To me, that's pretty acceptable in terms of forum management especially cross comparing numbers to other video game hubs.

In recent years yes. I strongly agree.

You can voice just about any opinion across all kf discussion. But there were a few times i recall where people may have been wrongfully perma-banned, but that was a very long time ago and idk who was moderating then.

I do know one user here was banned from kf2's discussion for what i think is a total BS reason involving nepotism and protecting a certain someone who is a "contributor" and mod on some platforms. It certainly would be a reason for said user to have a grudge. But i can't get into the vast details.

Nowdays iv'e not noticed issues in kf discussion. Threads have been locked with an answer from a dev or merged, locked or deleted for arguing etc. On other boards primarily watched by steam support you get no warnings and excessive bans are given out like candy for just about any given reason. Out sourcing steam support has come with it's fair share of consequences to where it's very much like other platforms now (or worse).

[Veica]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-Hmm, you guys are borderline spreading misinformation but I can help you with numbers so it's more accurate.

-In my first reply, I checked general discussions for the past month because the OP has no specific information and was just a general statement. There really are no thread deletions. I went as far as around six months of thread history (around 150ish threads iirc) for general discussions and I see two thread deletions. Both of those threads were Jester farming accounts that spam the same question across numerous different game hubs.

-Since you guys seem to not be referencing the general discussions, I went ahead and checked the "Ideas, Suggestions, and Feedback" sub-forum this time. Right now there are 85 current threads there since the first thread was posted in August 2023, there have been a whopping two thread deletions that are not self-deletions.

-To me, that's pretty acceptable in terms of forum management especially cross comparing numbers to other video game hubs.

-Of course, it's up to you if you want to believe me or not, all the best! Can't wait for KF3 closed beta!

You must not know about Tripwire, the company you're so willing to defend, and their history of nuking criticism from orbit on their own forums. Nor their penchant for holding grudges and game-banning people that they dislike.

I'd be far more inclined to believe pigs could fly - or even more unlikely, that KF3 would be a game worth spending money on - before I believe that people and posts on these Steam forums aren't being manipulated.

[spice_]

Does merging many threads into one count as deletion?

[Revalopod]

Originally posted by spice_:

Does merging many threads into one count as deletion?

No it counts as merging.

[spice_]

Originally posted by Revalopod:

Originally posted by spice_:

Does merging many threads into one count as deletion?

No it counts as merging.

but threads are removed from the front page into some other thread that's already active anyway?