Career like ETS2

[Astelle]

I was just thinking what if in the future we get progression similar to ets2 where u complete jobs to get money etc. I dont really see how that would work in a train sim but i was thinking what if for example u need to factor in the cost of fuel or wear and tear on the brakes. I dunno this might be a terrible idea but i just thought some kind of progression better than just levels might be nice.

[meatballs_21]

Derail Valley and Train Life have features like this - however, it is completely unrealistic from the perspective of a driver or dispatcher, hence it is absent here.

The forthcoming game Railroader features more of a business angle in that you’re the owner, manager and (if you want) driver and dispatcher of a short line railroad and need to make money and serve both passengers and industry, might be what you’re looking for.

[Astelle]

maybe it is what im looking for, i do still love railsim, i love multiplayer sims so there is really no other sims other than simrail and msfs for me out there.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by Astelle:

I was just thinking what if in the future we get progression similar to ets2 where u complete jobs to get money etc. I dont really see how that would work in a train sim but i was thinking what if for example u need to factor in the cost of fuel or wear and tear on the brakes. I dunno this might be a terrible idea but i just thought some kind of progression better than just levels might be nice.

No thanks it’s a rail
Simulator not an arcade game

[Astelle]

A very valid point I was just wanting to gauge ppls opinions on it.

[meatballs_21]

Originally posted by Astelle:

maybe it is what im looking for, i do still love railsim, i love multiplayer sims so there is really no other sims other than simrail and msfs for me out there.

Run8 is also a multiplayer train simulator… US only, but huge (hundreds of miles) routes, very realistic physics, lots of getting out to get your hands dirty a la Derail Valley, dispatching, hump yards, industries that load and unload cargo. With a good server full of people, hours of fun. Takes a while to learn it all and it’s not got the production values of other games (it’s focused on the simulation, not eye candy) but you might like it. It feels like SimRail might become more like that once they start to enable industries and stuff like that.

[Exploding Carrot]

Train Life does that very thing. But the gameplay side of it kinda sucked when I tried it. The driving side of it didn't even simulate something as basic as coasting.

[Astelle]

Originally posted by meatballs_21:

Originally posted by Astelle:

maybe it is what im looking for, i do still love railsim, i love multiplayer sims so there is really no other sims other than simrail and msfs for me out there.

Run8 is also a multiplayer train simulator… US only, but huge (hundreds of miles) routes, very realistic physics, lots of getting out to get your hands dirty a la Derail Valley, dispatching, hump yards, industries that load and unload cargo. With a good server full of people, hours of fun. Takes a while to learn it all and it’s not got the production values of other games (it’s focused on the simulation, not eye candy) but you might like it. It feels like SimRail might become more like that once they start to enable industries and stuff like that.

ye i look forward to industry and stuff

[QLIQ]

Originally posted by meatballs_21:

Derail Valley and Train Life have features like this - however, it is completely unrealistic from the perspective of a driver or dispatcher, hence it is absent here.

The forthcoming game Railroader features more of a business angle in that you’re the owner, manager and (if you want) driver and dispatcher of a short line railroad and need to make money and serve both passengers and industry, might be what you’re looking for.

Na. there is a documentary about a guy with his locomotive and taking over jobs from DB where train drivers are missing.

He is self employed with his own loco in Germany.

[Graubart]

And he is the only one in whole Europe, so definitely not a mainstream thingy. He mainly receives special jobs, not regular passenger trains.

[QLIQ]

For any train lover here is the documentary. They keep making new updates on him (3 episodes so far). Would make for an awesome game. Subtitles should make it possible to watch for everybody.
https://youtu.be/OYUIaebzNLs?si=Lyq57L5qzZHDS_zX

[Graubart]

That would be a very different game, then. I for my like the idea, but as a separate title, not as part of SimRail. SimRail should imho rather focus on what is their strength: Developing a sim that integrates driving and dispatching in a multiplayer coop environment. THIS is what makes SimRail unique, not single player (though I do not oppose it) and not economy.

[Astelle]

I do agree that the multiplayer environment is the best thing about simrail, its why i play it and not any other rail sim. I hope its what they continue to make the main priority.

[Spikee1975]

I think such "Career" options would distract from the main purpose of the game. An interactive world where you go and drive a train or do dispatching.

All games featuring such Career, Trophy and Achievement modes are the cause for a lot of frustration, people doing crazy things for points, and stuff like the never ending complaints on the ETS2 forums why they can't hire more than xxx drivers - making no actual difference to the game at all. It's numbers over gameplay.

I just saw someone wanting to refund a Pro Loco for TSC just because it doesn't come with Career scenarios (which just give you XP points that cannot be traded for anything) - pretty ridiculous.

I like the idea of needing certain levels to be able to do dispatching on more complex signal boxes though - which is not needed for personal levelling up, but to make sure a noob doesn't destroy the session.

[CaveMan]

Originally posted by meatballs_21:

Originally posted by Astelle:

maybe it is what im looking for, i do still love railsim, i love multiplayer sims so there is really no other sims other than simrail and msfs for me out there.

Run8 is also a multiplayer train simulator… US only, but huge (hundreds of miles) routes, very realistic physics, lots of getting out to get your hands dirty a la Derail Valley, dispatching, hump yards, industries that load and unload cargo. With a good server full of people, hours of fun. Takes a while to learn it all and it’s not got the production values of other games (it’s focused on the simulation, not eye candy) but you might like it. It feels like SimRail might become more like that once they start to enable industries and stuff like that.

I hope it stays close to how Run8 is. All we have left for a true real non-arcadey feel is Run8 and this, hope is stays like this...

[LPMD.Memphistus]

Originally posted by meatballs_21:

Derail Valley and Train Life have features like this - however, it is completely unrealistic from the perspective of a driver or dispatcher, hence it is absent here.

The forthcoming game Railroader features more of a business angle in that you’re the owner, manager and (if you want) driver and dispatcher of a short line railroad and need to make money and serve both passengers and industry, might be what you’re looking for.

Train Life is abondend, and Derail Valley has not that kind of a career.