Well, this game is already dead.

[Lurnaezel]

B2P for $40 [are you actually insane with that price?] and with Gameforge involved?

My God, not even Bless Online was that blatant with the cash grab.

[Jerry]

What's wrong with 40 bucks? At least it's not full retail price, now that would be insane. Why are gamers so cheap nowadays?

[Zastier]

$40 for launch price? That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ great. It will probably drop over time though if you're this cheap.

[Arngrim]

To be honest, this is one of the few mmos on steam coming out in the last few years that actually has me curious. All the last 10+ mmos coming out thats all been f2p with founders packs have all been hype and no content. Not saying this will be any better, but at least it has me curiousity for once.

[luisito10]

no regional pircing, the game born dead

[MomberyMochi]

AHH you said the B word.....My wallet just burned me as an echo to the pain i felt from that game!

[iicycube]

If 100-200 dollar b2p I dont mind buying, but the "golden cash-shop" will surely tank us down from this genre of MMO, that the worry part the most.

[Jerry]

Originally posted by Lolonoa Zolo:

This game feels to me like:

- ArcheAge UnchaNGED - failed miserably and was relaunched as B2P, promises for no P2W and then becomes more P2W than the F2P version and everyone is pissed

- Astellia - failed in Korea so bad they shut it down and release it in the west as B2P, I don't know about P2W, but the game does not have B2P quality, it has F2P quality and should be F2P

- Echo of Soul who knows which version - not sure if running or shut down

- Warlords Awakening - now shut down


So this game feels the same to me - whether it's successful or a failure in China, it's F2P in China, because Asians don't like non-F2P MMOs, which also means this game is of F2P quality and to sell the base version for 40 EUR is just crazy. I would not even pay 2.50 EURO for it, it just is not worth it, I don't think it will survive with this payment model and Gameforge will soon realize it.

Originally posted by Jerry:

What's wrong with 40 bucks? At least it's not full retail price, now that would be insane. Why are gamers so cheap nowadays?

If 40 bucks mean nothing for you, then buy a copy for everyone else. xD

The reason it's not worth anything, even 2.50 EUR, is because it's F2P in China, which means it's quality is not that of a B2P game. If you're OK with paying for F2P games, you deserve to get robbed in real life to start valuing money.

It's F2P to level 15 last I heard then you pay by the hour. The way you play games over there is a lot different then how we do it hence the different business models.

[Lurnaezel]

Originally posted by Zastier:

$40 for launch price? That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ great. It will probably drop over time though if you're this cheap.

How to prove you're a paid shill.

[Lurnaezel]

Originally posted by Jerry:

What's wrong with 40 bucks? At least it's not full retail price, now that would be insane. Why are gamers so cheap nowadays?

Oh idk, maybe because this game is F2P elsewhere, yet are demanding $40 for it here.

Another shill who thinks people being careful with their money are cheap.

[iicycube]

Originally posted by Jerry:

Originally posted by Lolonoa Zolo:

This game feels to me like:

- ArcheAge UnchaNGED - failed miserably and was relaunched as B2P, promises for no P2W and then becomes more P2W than the F2P version and everyone is pissed

- Astellia - failed in Korea so bad they shut it down and release it in the west as B2P, I don't know about P2W, but the game does not have B2P quality, it has F2P quality and should be F2P

- Echo of Soul who knows which version - not sure if running or shut down

- Warlords Awakening - now shut down


So this game feels the same to me - whether it's successful or a failure in China, it's F2P in China, because Asians don't like non-F2P MMOs, which also means this game is of F2P quality and to sell the base version for 40 EUR is just crazy. I would not even pay 2.50 EURO for it, it just is not worth it, I don't think it will survive with this payment model and Gameforge will soon realize it.





If 40 bucks mean nothing for you, then buy a copy for everyone else. xD

The reason it's not worth anything, even 2.50 EUR, is because it's F2P in China, which means it's quality is not that of a B2P game. If you're OK with paying for F2P games, you deserve to get robbed in real life to start valuing money.

It's F2P to level 15 last I heard then you pay by the hour.

I think you didnt know "yuan" they paid per month is really cheap than what we doing in EU/NA that everyone talking about.
So china rather pay monthly without cash shop than playing F2P

[Nex]

if it's going to be p2w anyways, then it really is an insane entry price

[Constubb]

EH is it p2w?

[A.C.I.D.🌀23]

Watch the Video of LazyPeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9woSaNKJxs in the Original Chinese version is no p2w, it's an subscibtion based game there, and no annoying RNG. The only thing what concerns me is GAMEFORGE :(
but i will give it a try !

[Communion]

40 bucks is a deal breaker for you? Are you 12? I spent 100 on SWTOR last night just buying a couple new armor sets and upgrading my Manaan estate. I'd make 40 bucks in an afternoon mowing grass back in 1970.

This thread's poster is dead on arrival.

[A.C.I.D.🌀23]

Originally posted by Kungpao Kitty:

40 bucks is a deal breaker for you? Are you 12? I spent 100 on SWTOR last night just buying a couple new armor sets and upgrading my Manaan estate. I'd make 40 bucks in an afternoon mowing grass back in 1970.

This thread's poster is dead on arrival.

40 bucks is ok for me , but not everyone can buy stylegear for 100 just for fun! I know SWTOR well, it's not so expensive than LOTRO but still not cheap!