Why I No Longer Play World of Tanks

[Paparazzi_Msk]

I’ve been playing WoT since 2011, but now I log into the game as rarely as possible. Why?

1) Terrible matchmaking.
You can play like a god, but you’ll never be able to carry a game on your own. The team balancer simply doesn’t work properly. It’s now common to have five matches in a row where your team’s light tank (LT) is played by a newbie who spots no one and dies in the first minute, while the enemy’s LT is controlled by a smart and experienced player.

As a result, your team is left blind almost immediately, and the enemy team gets vision control until the end of the match. That alone can reduce your chances of winning by 50%. And this happens again and again.

The developers seem unable to implement proper player statistics analysis, at least to assign equal-level LTs to both teams. They can’t even balance just one class of vehicles — but they have no problem spamming you with paid offers constantly.

2) Excessive commercialization.
The number of paid offers with various loot boxes and “battle passes” where you’re aggressively pushed to buy something has crossed all reasonable limits. It’s becoming unbearable.

You're drowning in money already. Calm down and focus on what matters: improving the game’s quality.

3) Despite huge profits, WG does nothing to improve gameplay quality.
I’ve repeatedly suggested implementing a “smart command panel” where the lineup changes dynamically based on players’ experience during a match. This would allow the whole team to see who the leader is, follow them, and support them.

Instead, we get meaningless numbers next to players’ names that no one cares about.

Hire smarter people. Listen to the players. Stop milking us for money. Just make the gameplay better — finally!

[Ghostiq]

Originally posted by Paparazzi_Msk:

I’ve been playing WoT since 2011, but now I log into the game as rarely as possible. Why?

1) Terrible matchmaking.
You can play like a god, but you’ll never be able to carry a game on your own. The team balancer simply doesn’t work properly. It’s now common to have five matches in a row where your team’s light tank (LT) is played by a newbie who spots no one and dies in the first minute, while the enemy’s LT is controlled by a smart and experienced player.

As a result, your team is left blind almost immediately, and the enemy team gets vision control until the end of the match. That alone can reduce your chances of winning by 50%. And this happens again and again.

The developers seem unable to implement proper player statistics analysis, at least to assign equal-level LTs to both teams. They can’t even balance just one class of vehicles — but they have no problem spamming you with paid offers constantly.

2) Excessive commercialization.
The number of paid offers with various loot boxes and “battle passes” where you’re aggressively pushed to buy something has crossed all reasonable limits. It’s becoming unbearable.

You're drowning in money already. Calm down and focus on what matters: improving the game’s quality.

3) Despite huge profits, WG does nothing to improve gameplay quality.
I’ve repeatedly suggested implementing a “smart command panel” where the lineup changes dynamically based on players’ experience during a match. This would allow the whole team to see who the leader is, follow them, and support them.

Instead, we get meaningless numbers next to players’ names that no one cares about.

Hire smarter people. Listen to the players. Stop milking us for money. Just make the gameplay better — finally!

1. That's skill-based matchmaking, which will not work in the long run and make games extremely boring and punish good players. Discussed a lot and will likely not be added into the game at any point.
2. There is also plenty of options to get things for free if you really want to, and opportunities keep coming. For example recent update of the bond shop, tournaments for gold, marathons, the list goes on.
3. This sounds like it won't do anything. Nobody looks at the good player in the team to follow, and I barely look at the team composition mid-game anyways, just to see how many tanks are left and where's my team. If you really left the game because this feature is not implemented then you are most likely the first person to do so. Besides, the amount of XP you get doesn't always mean you know what you're doing.

[Garkaajs]

If you really left the game because this feature is not implemented then you are most likely the first person to do so.

He wasn't only one who did that.

[Paparazzi_Msk]

Originally posted by Ghostiq:

3. This sounds like it won't do anything. Nobody looks at the good player in the team to follow, and I barely look at the team composition mid-game anyways, just to see how many tanks are left and where's my team. If you really left the game because this feature is not implemented then you are most likely the first person to do so. Besides, the amount of XP you get doesn't always mean you know what you're doing.

Anyone who has been playing World of Tanks for a long time would give a lot to know who is actually on their team — a newbie or an experienced player. The experience earned directly in the match is a great way to understand that. Personally, as a player who consistently ranks in the top three by experience in almost every game, it would be extremely helpful if other players, seeing my contribution to the match, would listen to me and respond to map pings when I ask for something. If 15 players can see who is really carrying the match, they’ll be more willing to assist and stay close to the skilled player rather than the newbie. This feature would benefit everyone.

[shi_mian_mai_fu]

Originally posted by Paparazzi_Msk:

Anyone who has been playing World of Tanks for a long time would give a lot to know who is actually on their team — a newbie or an experienced player. The experience earned directly in the match is a great way to understand that. Personally, as a player who consistently ranks in the top three by experience in almost every game, it would be extremely helpful if other players, seeing my contribution to the match, would listen to me and respond to map pings when I ask for something. If 15 players can see who is really carrying the match, they’ll be more willing to assist and stay close to the skilled player rather than the newbie. This feature would benefit everyone.

It will not work because most players don't care about the rest of the team. A perfect example is a battle I had yesterday on Serene Coast.

I have 3 marks on my E 75. I begin the battle on the north spawn of the map and make my way to the 9 lines. Several players saw I had 3 marks, and none helped or followed me. I have over 2000WN8, and sometimes I am alone on a flank. Players with XVM know my stats but don't care.

Most players will always go to the same spot, no matter what happens or who is on their teams.

[Paparazzi_Msk]

Originally posted by shi_mian_mai_fu:

I have 3 marks on my E 75. I begin the battle on the north spawn of the map and make my way to the 9 lines. Several players saw I had 3 marks, and none helped or followed me. I have over 2000WN8, and sometimes I am alone on a flank. Players with XVM know my stats but don't care.

Most players will always go to the same spot, no matter what happens or who is on their teams.

Your three marks on the gun can only be seen by those who are near you. If they were displayed next to your nickname in the player list, the whole team would see them. That’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

[Neo]

Wow he is so right WOT suks in so many ways Greed ruined this once great game

[KenzoKai]

Very true... This game is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ now. Tier 10 is a joke unless you play one of the "meta" tanks. Pretty much unless you play with a clan to access special events and rewards only available to elite clans to get extremely over powered tanks, or get lucky with a OP lootbox tank... You have to be clever and tricky to overcome the blatant advantages given to the newer tanks. WoT is so messed up, essentially, if your tank doesn't have two (or more) barrels, it sucks.

[Sesrian]

I read by hazard chat , and see another GOAT shi fu.

I m happy for you you 3 mark , and your sacred wn8 , but

My dear prophet shi fu , can you stop a day , come here for talk about your stats , and see at all other the world , how you so great , and the chance with have read you ??????

[shi_mian_mai_fu]

Originally posted by Sesrian:

My dear prophet shi fu , can you stop a day , come here for talk about your stats , and see at all other the world , how you so great , and the chance with have read you ??????

How about you stop making threads whining about this game and improve to win more often so you can stop blaming your teammates for your losses?

Again, why are you replying when you don't understand what is said?

Originally posted by Paparazzi_Msk:

Your three marks on the gun can only be seen by those who are near you. If they were displayed next to your nickname in the player list, the whole team would see them. That’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

Marks on an E 75 are pretty hard to miss. =) You suggest that at the start of a battle, look at who is the best player and follow him. The problem is that it works both ways (bad players following good players and good players following good players). WG could add our WTR score next to our name, but as I said, most players always go to the same spot and don't care about what's happening on the map. How often have you been alone on a flank because the 14 other players on your team all went to the other side?

[Paparazzi_Msk]

Originally posted by shi_mian_mai_fu:

Marks on an E 75 are pretty hard to miss. =) You suggest that at the start of a battle, look at who is the best player and follow him. The problem is that it works both ways (bad players following good players and good players following good players). WG could add our WTR score next to our name, but as I said, most players always go to the same spot and don't care about what's happening on the map. How often have you been alone on a flank because the 14 other players on your team all went to the other side?

Dude, if we held a vote right now on what WoT players prefer more — some meaningless numbers next to the names of 15 players or the number of marks on the gun in the same panel — I think the result would be 90% to 10% in favor of the marks instead of the numbers. And that’s not even mentioning the ridiculous thing like the “Steel General” medallion above tanks at the start of every match, which doesn’t mean anything at all. It’s complete nonsense that nobody needs, yet the developers still added it to the game.

[Desparado]

You can say that this game is a big ♥♥♥♥ show

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by Paparazzi_Msk:

Dude, if we held a vote right now on what WoT players prefer more — some meaningless numbers next to the names of 15 players or the number of marks on the gun in the same panel — I think the result would be 90% to 10% in favor of the marks instead of the numbers. And that’s not even mentioning the ridiculous thing like the “Steel General” medallion above tanks at the start of every match, which doesn’t mean anything at all. It’s complete nonsense that nobody needs, yet the developers still added it to the game.

Mark percentage?, yes.

Marks but no percentage? No. Really no. Like a "seriously this is pointless" kind of no.

I've seen a number of players over the years with 3 marks who either;
- Had the tank in question years ago and can no longer play at that level in it,
- Tanks been Changed/Nerfed since they got the 3rd mark,
- Hasn't played the game in a long time,
or,
- the account has potentially "switched hands" in that time...

(Im sure you've seen the ones with 3 marks on the tank, but 60% or lower on MoE. Few excuses for that one...)

Marks alone don't equate skill. Not like they should anyway.

I've got a number of 3 marked tanks, but i haven't played in a long while. Im most certainly going to fall into that 3rd category if i started playing again....

And yes, i stopped playing this much at all due to the absolutely horrific "Team" that is normally more of a hindrance than help... The balance of a lot of new tanks vs old ones, and premiums like Progetto does not help that at all.

[Paparazzi_Msk]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

I've got a number of 3 marked tanks, but i haven't played in a long while. Im most certainly going to fall into that 3rd category if i started playing again....

And yes, i stopped playing this much at all due to the absolutely horrific "Team" that is normally more of a hindrance than help... The balance of a lot of new tanks vs old ones, and premiums like Progetto does not help that at all.

That's why I'm saying the best solution would be to display at least the top three experience leaders from the current match on the command panel. Imagine this: the whole team can see the top three players by experience throughout the match, and their positions in the top 3 shift from time to time. It's not only engaging, but also useful.

[Rod]

I see people spouting the same false "its your fault get good and you can grt wins" which is totally false as the best streamers have days of 25% wins ask them about thier bad games... The last game i played i was killed in 2m 30s by someone who drove right through swamp up the hill into spawn and killed me. As i am arty obviously thats my fault i should of got good right? Yes i should of killed before the 2m 30s half the enemy team. And i should of had a shell ready in my barrel instead of reloading when this light suddenly appears in my spawn. The game was a total joke full of idiots who dont even scout or defend swamp the last team member of this utter stomp died at the 3m mark a 3 minute joke of a game and a complete waste of everyones time.



Do you know how many patches will arrive to fix this? Likely none its been almost a year now of really really fast battles and they havent even dropped a single patch. The developers stated offically that of things ever got out of hand they could increase all tanks health. Well they lied... All they care about of striking deals for battle pass and they unlike other game developers who release weekly and monthly balance patches tend to let the problems spiral for years. They only announced the bog september update as well because Steel Aces is going to launch without the greedy peaky blinders and girls und panzer.

[Ghostiq]

Originally posted by Paparazzi_Msk:

Originally posted by shi_mian_mai_fu:

I have 3 marks on my E 75. I begin the battle on the north spawn of the map and make my way to the 9 lines. Several players saw I had 3 marks, and none helped or followed me. I have over 2000WN8, and sometimes I am alone on a flank. Players with XVM know my stats but don't care.

Most players will always go to the same spot, no matter what happens or who is on their teams.

Your three marks on the gun can only be seen by those who are near you. If they were displayed next to your nickname in the player list, the whole team would see them. That’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

The guy made a great point, people with XVM already know who is good at the game and who isn't. Yet, everyone still plays their own game, because randoms is not guaranteed to give you people who want to play as if they were in a platoon.

Personally, I wouldn't listen to some guy telling me to do something in a game, no matter their stats, because I am playing my own game listening to music, not even paying attention to what's said in the chat.

Besides in my experience nobody listened to suggestions or help when I asked. I don't see why it would change have they seen my "xp earned" in the battle (which is again not an indicator how good you are in the game in general).

In the beginning of every battle, every person has same amount of XP earned, doesn't mean that everyone is as good of a player.

This would be yet another feature that nobody asked for and nobody would use. I'd rather devs fix some maps instead of implementing whatever this is