Can't penetrate tanks that are 2 tiers higher than me.

[Michanicks]

"Shoot at direct angles, aim for lower plate/cupola/hatches/mg point" - it just doesn't work. I rarely penetrate these points and when i do i do pathetic -5/-10% hp damage when they destroy 50-90% of my hp in ONE shot.

"Shoot in the back" - what if there is no enemy that stupid enough to let you see his back? Enemies don't penetrate me from sides or in the back, all they have to do is shoot me in the face, no matter if i try to angle or to sidescrape, that 2 tier advantage is huge.

When i have rare games with equal tiers, they are so good! I penetrate enemies when i aim at weak point and i am able to protect myself by hiding my weak spots. So bad these matches are very rare, like they happen only 15% of the times or less.

[Jmthebigman]

Which tank you playing?

[HumaTheGreat]

Agreed, its so frusturating. i m a new player but i m close to leave game.

[Michanicks]

Originally posted by Jmthebigman:

Which tank you playing?

5-6 tier soviet tanks.

[Zorlond]

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot in the back"

Oh yes, let me just drive forward in this narrow corridor where the enemy can see me coming from a mile away and pop me through my face armor, yes very good. Oh, go further around, you say? Right, will do, I'll just circle around and charge face-first into the +2 Tier guy's buddies, who also happen to be +2 Tier. Yes, another pop in my face, very good. I suppose I could try even further around, but unfortunately any further and I drive headlong into the river or a cliff. Ah, is that a pathway with no enemies on it that could possible be a route to around the enemy? Boffin, off I go, and a bush about a kilometer back from the enemy line just lobbed a shell in my face and I'm off to the farm.

Cheerio.

[Judge Dread]

+2 match making is there to force you to shoot gold against anything that has even halfway decent armor. And it's there to increase grind because for your average player, it's exceptionally difficult to deal with tanks 2 tiers higher so they often do worse. lol.

[Full_Metal_Meme]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot in the back"

Oh yes, let me just drive forward in this narrow corridor where the enemy can see me coming from a mile away and pop me through my face armor, yes very good. Oh, go further around, you say? Right, will do, I'll just circle around and charge face-first into the +2 Tier guy's buddies, who also happen to be +2 Tier. Yes, another pop in my face, very good. I suppose I could try even further around, but unfortunately any further and I drive headlong into the river or a cliff. Ah, is that a pathway with no enemies on it that could possible be a route to around the enemy? Boffin, off I go, and a bush about a kilometer back from the enemy line just lobbed a shell in my face and I'm off to the farm.

Cheerio.

ALWAYS THEIR FAULT WG NEVER WRONG ALWAYS ASSUME THEY ARE JUST WALTZING INTO THE OPEN TO APPEAR RIGHT

[Michanicks]

Originally posted by Full_Metal_Meme:

Originally posted by Zorlond:

Oh yes, let me just drive forward in this narrow corridor where the enemy can see me coming from a mile away and pop me through my face armor, yes very good. Oh, go further around, you say? Right, will do, I'll just circle around and charge face-first into the +2 Tier guy's buddies, who also happen to be +2 Tier. Yes, another pop in my face, very good. I suppose I could try even further around, but unfortunately any further and I drive headlong into the river or a cliff. Ah, is that a pathway with no enemies on it that could possible be a route to around the enemy? Boffin, off I go, and a bush about a kilometer back from the enemy line just lobbed a shell in my face and I'm off to the farm.

Cheerio.

ALWAYS THEIR FAULT WG NEVER WRONG ALWAYS ASSUME THEY ARE JUST WALTZING INTO THE OPEN TO APPEAR RIGHT

Mocking something doesn't proof it wrong.

"tWo PlUs TwO eQuAls FoUr, OnE iS mOrE tHaN zErO, SuN iS tHe StAr".

You see? That kindergarden stuff doesn't work in reality. But there is also the fact: players WOULDN'T complain if there would be no tier difference to begin with.

[Full_Metal_Meme]

Originally posted by Michanicks:

Originally posted by Full_Metal_Meme:

ALWAYS THEIR FAULT WG NEVER WRONG ALWAYS ASSUME THEY ARE JUST WALTZING INTO THE OPEN TO APPEAR RIGHT

Mocking something doesn't proof it wrong.

"tWo PlUs TwO eQuAls FoUr, OnE iS mOrE tHaN zErO, SuN iS tHe StAr".

You see? That kindergarden stuff doesn't work in reality. But there is also the fact: players WOULDN'T complain if there would be no tier difference to begin with.

I am aware, but I would imagine people would complain either way but eliminating tier difference entirely would be a step in the right direction.

[gsw mer]

if premium ammo didnt exist then the 2 tier advantage might be mitigated to some degree with angling. but with premium ammo there is zero chance for them to not pen. even if they are the same tier as you

premium shells = your side armor is now your rear armor and your frontal armor is now your side armor

[8_Hussars]

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot at direct angles, aim for lower plate/cupola/hatches/mg point" - it just doesn't work.

Learning the generic weak spots is good. Study tanks.gg for more tank specific detailed weak spots.

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot in the back" - what if there is no enemy that stupid enough to let you see his back? Enemies don't penetrate me from sides or in the back, all they have to do is shoot me in the face, no matter if i try to angle or to sidescrape, that 2 tier advantage is huge.

Controlling engagements is a skill in the game. MM will match you against an equal amount of same tier tanks. (e.g. 3/5/7). There is no requirement to follow a corridor or choke point and have +2 tier tanks shoot you in the face. Do not trade with higher tier tanks. Let others bait or soak the damage and shoot the enemies on reloads. Learn to create and exploit local over matches. e.g 2 v 1 means the enemy cant shoot both of you.

On side-scraping; getting the angles correct is very important however knowledge of over-match is equally critical so you are not side-scraping against something that will pen anyway.

[Full_Metal_Meme]

Originally posted by 8_Hussars:

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot at direct angles, aim for lower plate/cupola/hatches/mg point" - it just doesn't work.

Learning the generic weak spots is good. Study tanks.gg for more tank specific detailed weak spots.

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot in the back" - what if there is no enemy that stupid enough to let you see his back? Enemies don't penetrate me from sides or in the back, all they have to do is shoot me in the face, no matter if i try to angle or to sidescrape, that 2 tier advantage is huge.

Controlling engagements is a skill in the game. MM will match you against an equal amount of same tier tanks. (e.g. 3/5/7). There is no requirement to follow a corridor or choke point and have +2 tier tanks shoot you in the face. Do not trade with higher tier tanks. Let others bait or soak the damage and shoot the enemies on reloads. Learn to create and exploit local over matches. e.g 2 v 1 means the enemy cant shoot both of you.

On side-scraping; getting the angles correct is very important however knowledge of over-match is equally critical so you are not side-scraping against something that will pen anyway.

not wrong, some lower tier tanks are also capable of penetrating tanks 2 tiers higher anyway provided they shoot the correct spots and their gun has a high enough pen, just takes a bit of studying.

the easy way is gold shells though, lol.

[Vividnightmare]

The game is a pay to win schill. The bot matches are fun but the human players have all paid for god class tanks. All bullets bounce, they do 90% hp in one shot and it's pointless to play. No wonder they're THROWING freebies at me, they're doing anything they can to keep me playing so I can be cannon fodder for the 'whales' spending money on this. Epic fail.

[Spike Driver]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

Originally posted by Michanicks:

"Shoot in the back"

Oh yes, let me just drive forward in this narrow corridor where the enemy can see me coming from a mile away and pop me through my face armor, yes very good. Oh, go further around, you say? Right, will do, I'll just circle around and charge face-first into the +2 Tier guy's buddies, who also happen to be +2 Tier. Yes, another pop in my face, very good. I suppose I could try even further around, but unfortunately any further and I drive headlong into the river or a cliff. Ah, is that a pathway with no enemies on it that could possible be a route to around the enemy? Boffin, off I go, and a bush about a kilometer back from the enemy line just lobbed a shell in my face and I'm off to the farm.

Cheerio.

Wow...you HAVE played the game, lol..."working as intended".

[F!]

It's totally boring and frustrating to play against tanks 1 or 2 levels higher. I don't understand what's going on with the developers. Uninstall, bye bye.

[Dregeno]

Normal in this game :,)
Buy other tank with highest penetration. And in a tier+2 match you have 30-50% other enemies with your rank. You dont must fight the best tank.