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Lol. Stop.
I have some of those. They aren't that great.
FCM 36 Pak 40 is a joke. Fast reload and good pen. Everything else is weak. Rarely takes more than three hits unless fighting noobs with auto-aim. Definitely not OP.
105 LeFH1882 is overrated. Yes, it's good. Sure, it can make a big difference. Get in close range combat? Dead. Every time. Useless against any player that knows it has no defense when rushed.
Pz II-J. What is even going on here? I never concern myself with these. I blow them up all the time. Why do people complain about this tank? What is so broken about it? I've no idea. I just laugh when I see it. What am I missing?
Credits. All can be purchased with credits. Credits can be earned for free. Skilled players earn more credits.
I net positive income at tier VIII. Without premium account, without premium ammo, and without a premium tank. How is this possible if the game is pay to win?
Cause positive income isn't winning. If you spent gold and had a negative income, you would be winning more.
I read comments like that years ago. I took it to heart. I started firing all prammo, all the time.
Guess what? I found myself with negative income. On all tanks, all the time.
Worse, I didn't do any better. Sure, I dealt more damage. It made no difference to my wins, however.
This would be a great argument. If not for the fact people can buy prammo with credits.
It's not all-or-nothing. It's not "you have prammo or you don't."
Your argument also assumes that two tanks are sitting in the open firing at one another. Neither attempting to dodge or hide. Neither trying to use angles. Sure, in that case, prammo matters. It's the difference maker.
What about when I swing around behind a VK 100? Does it really matter if I'm firing premium ammo at that point? Does it matter how much premium ammo the VK is carrying?
Again, these can be purchased with credits. Additionally, crews can now be trained with free XP.
There's nothing stopping a f2p player from grinding until they get enough credits to play the same way.
I could sit in... I don't know... a KV-1. Grind all day. Win most matches. Deal a lot of damage. Using little or no prammo and consumables. Generate a ton of credits.
I can then expend these credits on directives and crew books for my tier VIII. The only difference between me and those that spend money is that I have to grind. A lot. I have to grind a ton. Way more than they do.
I have about 100 directives just sitting in my inventory. A bunch of crew books. I don't even know how many. So many boosters it will take 100s of hours to go through them all. And I'm fairly sure I got all of it for free.
Do you know why it just sits there? Because I don't need them. Don't get me wrong. My Indien Panzer and IS-3 crews aren't maxed. They could use them. But me? I don't care. Two skills per crew is plenty. I'm happy to grind for the rest.
How was any of this fair before you could buy your way up? Enter the game fresh, and everyone is better. Because everyone else has skills. Skills they got from grinding. Skills you don't have. Simply because you are new.
WG added crew books to address this problem with the game. It's paying to skip the grind.
Personally, I don't understand why people do that. It's like in MMOs when they give you a chance to pay money to level up. Makes no sense to me. Why pay money to not play? Playing is the fun part. Paying is the lame part.
My point, is that buying it doesn't automatically make you a winner. I know this because I have one.
it doesn't matter how much money I pump into it. The problem is that I'm bad at playing artillery. No amount of cash is going to change that. No amount of crew books, prammo, or directives is going to change that.
Feels like winning. Especially when I finish research, and get to buy the next tier immediately. Then still have plenty left-over for the module upgrades.
Take two players of equal skill level, in equal tanks.
One is a whale, the other is F2P.
The whale has a 100% crew with 5 skills from day one. He also skipped stock grind because he farmed some free XP on premium tank. He also fires nothing but premium ammo. Uses food, directives and full equipment loadout.
The F2P player starts with 75% crew, no skills, no directives, no consumables, no equipment.
The whale fires 10 shots. All 10 penetrate. The F2P fires 10 shots, only 5 penetrate. Already he is doing half damage. He can't conceal, he can't spot. He is a liability on wheels, while the whale is doing double the workload with his paid advantages.
Sure, the F2P player will catch up eventually with crew and modules and equipment. But he will still be firing normal ammo and by the time he is competitive, his winrate is already down to 45%, while the whale is probably sitting around 49%.
That's a 4% higher WIN rate. WIN being the word we are focusing on here. He has a higher WIN rate because he PAID.
Understand now? I don't know how I can explain it any more clearly. But it's pretty obvious you're ignoring the facts right in front of you just to defend a game you enjoy.
Well I also enjoy the game. I also pay to play the game. But I'm not dumb enough to deny the mechanics which are right there, clear for everyone to see.
Lot of people are ignorant, can easily guarantee that lot of unicums will agree with you that its pay to win. (They does spit golds all the time)
Oh, no. I see your points. I simply don't agree. Then went to great lengths to refute them and try to bring some understanding.
There is so much wrong with this scenario. I don't even know where to begin.
Remember when I said, "it's not an all-or-nothing thing"? That applies here.
Playing for free does not mean you can't buy anything with credits. You aren't locked out of buying consumables or equipment. These are still available.
WoT also happens to have invite codes. A new player can easily start with 300-700 gold, a tier V premium tank, and 3-14 days of premium time. FOR FREE.
Such a f2p person with that code stands a much better chance. In fact, they could train up their crew in a premium tank. Their premium time should help a great deal in getting the credits they need for equipment. They could even spend gold to instantly get themselves crew mastery. They too, could also earn a bunch of free xp to skip the stock grind.
Further, the f2p will benefit from giveaways. (If they stick around.) They'll get another premium tank around Christmas. Then another around WoT's anniversary. They'll also pick up free xp/credit boosters, free gold, and free premium time along the way.
Sure, it's harder to play completely for free. It's far from impossible. And no where near as bad as you make it out to be.
You said these players are supposed to be of equal skill. Are they both supposed to be really bad? I don't know about you, but I'm not about to sit and exchange fire with someone that's clearly dealing more damage than me. (Or someone I can't pen.) I immediately change tactics.
F2P can afford to carry a few premium rounds without setting themselves back.
Do you have statistics to back that up? Or did you just make up some numbers?
Your sophistry-filled scenario and made-up numbers are not facts. They are opinions, at best.
You've called me dumb, blind, and implied I'm ignorant. It's been real nice talking to you.
Eeww. Too much ♥♥♥♥ mixed in your strawman. Complete failure to address any arguments. Just making more assumptions to avoid talking to the point. You lost by Occam razor's rule.
i second this crying about grammer and other unrelated issues hes violating steams tos do we need to look to steam to help you guys? there actually is a rule about derailing subjects like this
how is the guy not banned. you can prove in the training room how ignorant trash is and given some of his comments where he just didnt read or couldnt comprehend what a number of us said hes also clearly dumb or blind. why is this guy allowed to instigate problems like this while being so easily proven wrong? any mods wanna explain? you banned one person already for being tired of him. trash is the user name btw so dont look at me for using the name someone else made for themselves
https://wotlabs.net/
assuming this is even slightly true 4% winrate is the difference between
50% winrate above average better then 63% of people
54% winrate very good better then 95% of people
most people dont have a problem with this site or xvm rating as far as stats go when it comes to stats most people considered it reasonably accurate for judging skill
the point is it doesnt take much to be better then most.
Specific tank knowledge, matchup knowledge, tactical knowledge, sidescraping, targeting, positioning, map knowledge and more are all things a new player will not have.
Spending money on this game inarguably allows you to skip most if not all of these things by virtue of A: powerful premium tanks and B: crew/research acceleration. This means you're getting better tanks (go faster, turn better, better terrain dynamics, better suspension, more hp, thicker/better angled armour, more traversal) and you're getting better parts for your non-premium tanks (some of which are genuinely required to make the tank worthwhile), and you're also getting better crew either right out of the gate or over time as you spend XP/gold on boosting perk progress. With that latter thing, better crew quicker? Your tanks function and respond to you better than without spending money!
It's straight up pay to win and you're outright lying if you say otherwise, whether by omission, ignorance or stubbornness.
That being said, most people who play WoT desperately need it to be P2W because they friggin' suck at this game, so I personally believe it all balances out once you grind your head against the brick wall of tier 3 - 5 autoloaders.
-ts5 was steaming trash before the buff even then its still not grate your beating your head on a wall and wondering why the thing you have done and failed to work a dozen times failed agian if you cant handle it
-progetto flip a coin i know how to deal with it pick your posion on it
-defender has massive weakspots if your a teir 6 maybe you could have trouble but if your a teir 8 or 9 your the problem
-bourrasque was fine until they put it on sale and let every jackass buy it it needs a nerf to prevent doom toons trolling in it
su 130 you think this is good? madness absolute madness even the skorpian(tech tree version) and the skorpian g(premium of the tech tree) are better then this hunk of junk.
-ebr was rightly nerfed into the ground until you get a 3-5 skill crew you wont like it im doing the tech tree line and ya the teir 6 one just use free exp dont even play it. i hope to god the lynx or the tier 9 ebr are worth it, ♥♥♥♥ wheelies =]