Premium shop - The beginning of the end

[r4z0rbl4d3]

Introducing the Premium shop in the next patch marks the beginning of the end for DDV for me, with the paid Early Access drawing closer to the end. I don't mind that the game gets another way of collecting furniture and cosmetics for your village, becuase we need that! It's the "Premium" about it that sucks - "Free-2-Play" is just a bad idea for a game like this and will alienate your playerbase.

Making Moonstone "easier to get" is not going to solve anything until you take away the option to pay for it with real money altogether. Because we will never have enough of it to buy everything in the Premium shop AND the Starpath, will we, and I bet you anything the premium shop will only have items available for a short time...

As a EA-adopter I gladly paid to play the game and never regretted it. I can honestly say it's worth the cost have recommended several friends to get it as well. But I won't and will never recommend a F2P-game with "Preium-features". Make it a full priced game instead and drop this stupid way of encouraging people to buy digital items...

Having said that, I love the dedication to making this game better! Real great fixes and features being added!

[scaz]

Took this game right off my wish-list due to hearing about this premium shop feature and the moonstone currency. Sick and tired of these scummy, loot-box, gambling tactics being put into video games.
Especially when they're supposed to be free to play!!!

[jendea]

So, someone on another forum priced this out. If you're a collector (and I am) once your initial moonstones from EA are gone, you would have to essentially buy the large Moonstone pack every 5 days to "buy the store" and own everything at these prices. If there are no repeats, that is somewhere around $300 per month minus any moonstones you collect from chests (50 x 30 days = only 1500 Moonstones). Granted they haven't said yet if they will re-release packs or sell items individually at some point.
I am most likely in the demographic that this store is aimed at, but there is no way I'm going to spend more than my heating bill every month on one game. It's too bad; I usually enjoy the premium aspects of games/stores and don't mind supporting a free to play game that is really good. But these prices take collecting everything out of reach of um...everyone? Wish there was an emoji of a whale swimming away - it would sum up this post so well.

[Miss P.]

scaz původně napsal:

Took this game right off my wish-list due to hearing about this premium shop feature and the moonstone currency. Sick and tired of these scummy, loot-box, gambling tactics being put into video games.
Especially when they're supposed to be free to play!!!

I don't understand Scaz, because it is free. You don't need to have moonstone to play it. You can find 100 free- moonstones by day with blue chests. And the premium shop is only cosmetic items not more playable item or npc or map. So don't worry :)

Jendea is you find 100 moonstone by day, with one month you can "buy" a special pack items on the premium shop.

I repeat, you don't need all the items to play at all. So enjoy the free-game, it is really fun.

[scaz]

Miss P. původně napsal:

scaz původně napsal:

Took this game right off my wish-list due to hearing about this premium shop feature and the moonstone currency. Sick and tired of these scummy, loot-box, gambling tactics being put into video games.
Especially when they're supposed to be free to play!!!

I don't understand Scaz, because it is free. You don't need to have moonstone to play it. You can find 100 free- moonstones by day with blue chests. And the premium shop is only cosmetic items not more playable item or npc or map. So don't worry :)

Jendea is you find 100 moonstone by day, with one month you can "buy" a special pack items on the premium shop.

I repeat, you don't need all the items to play at all. So enjoy the free-game, it is really fun.

Many thanks for the information Miss P. Glad to hear it can be played without using the moonstones and collecting all the cosmetics. I heard some of the stuff like characters and adventure were blocked by pay walls.

[PinkFluff]

scaz původně napsal:

Miss P. původně napsal:

I don't understand Scaz, because it is free. You don't need to have moonstone to play it. You can find 100 free- moonstones by day with blue chests. And the premium shop is only cosmetic items not more playable item or npc or map. So don't worry :)

Jendea is you find 100 moonstone by day, with one month you can "buy" a special pack items on the premium shop.

I repeat, you don't need all the items to play at all. So enjoy the free-game, it is really fun.

Many thanks for the information Miss P. Glad to hear it can be played without using the moonstones and collecting all the cosmetics. I heard some of the stuff like characters and adventure were blocked by pay walls.

Well for 1, getting 100 moonstones a day requires finding 2 moonstones chests each day. Each chest is 50 and you usually get 1 and you have to spend the time to check for it and potentially waste time not finding it again. 30 days of finding 1 chest is only 1,500 moonstones. The star paths are 2500 (which is more than it used to be). The current items in the premium shop are way over priced. 3k-4.8k moonstones for 3 furniture items or 1 house skin that don't have any alternative colors, which is roughly $15-25$ for each depending on the item and where you live.

Putting that aside. There will be content that will cost money. They say so on the last paragraph on their faq about monetization [gameloft.helpshift.com]

If they're trying to ask people to pay that much for non essential stationary items, I fear what they're gonna ask for more content.

[Cmdo.Delta]

thesorceress1 původně napsal:

The question you have to ask is how over-priced is the premium shop going to be

Now we know that it is lol...

scaz původně napsal:

Took this game right off my wish-list due to hearing about this premium shop feature and the moonstone currency. Sick and tired of these scummy, loot-box, gambling tactics being put into video games.
Especially when they're supposed to be free to play!!!

Did you even paid for it once?

[Cmdo.Delta]

Miss P. původně napsal:

scaz původně napsal:

Took this game right off my wish-list due to hearing about this premium shop feature and the moonstone currency. Sick and tired of these scummy, loot-box, gambling tactics being put into video games.
Especially when they're supposed to be free to play!!!

I don't understand Scaz, because it is free. You don't need to have moonstone to play it. You can find 100 free- moonstones by day with blue chests. And the premium shop is only cosmetic items not more playable item or npc or map. So don't worry :)

Jendea is you find 100 moonstone by day, with one month you can "buy" a special pack items on the premium shop.

I repeat, you don't need all the items to play at all. So enjoy the free-game, it is really fun.

100? it's 50 isnt it?

[Miss P.]

Scaz : you're welcome ;)
And no, normally, npc and adventure are free and will be forever free

Pinkfluff I find 2 chests with 50 monstones each on my playtime (2 hours), so one month is okay for a pack premium. And they said they only make paid stuff only for cosmetics/decor items. No "pay to win" or "pay to have a better/heavier game" ;)

Cmdo.Delta, I find 2 chests in my short playtime, I was really surprise but happy ^^

[r4z0rbl4d3]

Miss P. původně napsal:

Scaz : you're welcome ;)
And no, normally, npc and adventure are free and will be forever free :flamey_happy:

Pinkfluff I find 2 chests with 50 monstones each on my playtime (2 hours), so one month is okay for a pack premium. And they said they only make paid stuff only for cosmetics/decor items. No "pay to win" or "pay to have a better/heavier game" ;)

Cmdo.Delta, I find 2 chests in my short playtime, I was really surprise but happy ^^

Sorry, but you only get one blue chest per day; the green ones only gives money or item-bags. If you got two, that was probably a bug.

[LOCUS]

paying is optional, I don't mind buying expansion packs we all do it,
There's scummy f2p gambling archetypes and there's other versions.
What this will be I don't know.
But when someone microtransactions parts of an expanion, for example buy the expansion or part of one then you progress to a dungeon or something then it says whoops you have to buy this part of the expansion within the expansion you just bought access to well...bye.

I bought the base game Of elder scrolls online and some expansions way back when, and its free to play not subscription based. I enjoyed my purchases and didn't feel cheated. Allthough they did microtransaction a few small dungeons. So eating my own words a bit there.

[PinkFluff]

r4z0rbl4d3 původně napsal:

Miss P. původně napsal:

Scaz : you're welcome ;)
And no, normally, npc and adventure are free and will be forever free :flamey_happy:

Pinkfluff I find 2 chests with 50 monstones each on my playtime (2 hours), so one month is okay for a pack premium. And they said they only make paid stuff only for cosmetics/decor items. No "pay to win" or "pay to have a better/heavier game" ;)

Cmdo.Delta, I find 2 chests in my short playtime, I was really surprise but happy ^^

Sorry, but you only get one blue chest per day; the green ones only gives money or item-bags. If you got two, that was probably a bug.

I'm leaning towards it's a bug too. I have over 300 hours and I've seen multiple chests that I could redeam maybe 4-5 times. For a while in between the 1st and 2nd update patches The game would spawn 2 but only allow me to claim the rewards from 1 while giving me an error that basically said "you reached your daily limit try again tomorrow" on the second one

[PinkFluff]

Miss P. původně napsal:

Scaz : you're welcome ;)
And no, normally, npc and adventure are free and will be forever free :flamey_happy:

Pinkfluff I find 2 chests with 50 monstones each on my playtime (2 hours), so one month is okay for a pack premium. And they said they only make paid stuff only for cosmetics/decor items. No "pay to win" or "pay to have a better/heavier game"

Also... I'm aware of what they said and very aware there's no pay to win, pay to skip time, ect ect... I've been following this game before the official trailer back in April last year. There will be content locked behind paid dlc later after the official launch when the game is out of early access.

[Caileak]

Sorry, I have to leave a comm... to rant, as I absolutely agree with the headline and want this thread to keep growing!

I generally appreciate the item shop and would even have bought items occasionally, as this keeps the development going. But these prices are just ... rude; and will certainly make player leave, which will result in "too less players for the game to be profitable" eventually. I'm really in love with this game and wish the managers would focus on keeping the game going instead of trying to make as much revenue as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.

It's still early access and they're trying to milk the cash cow! That's so ... insolent! Just look at other games that did this! None of them became great titles.

[Miss P.]

r4z0rbl4d3 původně napsal:

Miss P. původně napsal:

Scaz : you're welcome ;)
And no, normally, npc and adventure are free and will be forever free

Pinkfluff I find 2 chests with 50 monstones each on my playtime (2 hours), so one month is okay for a pack premium. And they said they only make paid stuff only for cosmetics/decor items. No "pay to win" or "pay to have a better/heavier game" ;)

Cmdo.Delta, I find 2 chests in my short playtime, I was really surprise but happy ^^

Sorry, but you only get one blue chest per day; the green ones only gives money or item-bags. If you got two, that was probably a bug.

Ah flûte lol Lucky me when I have 2 alors ^^

Caileak původně napsal:

Sorry, I have to leave a comm... to rant, as I absolutely agree with the headline and want this thread to keep growing!

I generally appreciate the item shop and would even have bought items occasionally, as this keeps the development going. But these prices are just ... rude; and will certainly make player leave, which will result in "too less players for the game to be profitable" eventually. I'm really in love with this game and wish the managers would focus on keeping the game going instead of trying to make as much revenue as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.

It's still early access and they're trying to milk the cash cow! That's so ... insolent! Just look at other games that did this! None of them became great titles.

:steamdeadpan:

You are wrong, Path of Exiles is one of the greatest and it is the same, everything is free except for cosmetics stuffs to helping the dev ;)

[F4T4L1TY]

But it was announced before EA when It is out it become F2P , so dont blame them for that 😑