I think i see why people hate this Faust so much

[Just a Crow]

They have forgotten that you dont play Faust to win you play Faust to be dumb and this version of him can pull that off like no other like i did when i got triple trumpet

[MuskelBiber]

Yeah, I feel dumb , every time I pull out trumpet for my opponent.

Or banana , banana , donut , Trumpet , amazing gameplay. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

People hate Faust not because he's weak , they took away to much fun stuff and mixmixmix is one of the worst moves is have ever seen in any fighting game.

I mean, how can you remove Pogo stick his most iconic move and replace it with something so boring and bad, that's actually an achievement.

[Just a Crow]

Publicado originalmente por Dagget:

Yeah, I feel dumb , every time I pull out trumpet for my opponent.

Or banana , banana , donut , Trumpet , amazing gameplay. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

People hate Faust not because he's weak , they took away to much fun stuff and mixmixmix is one of the worst moves is have ever seen in any fighting game.

I mean, how can you remove Pogo stick his most iconic move and replace it with something so boring and bad, that's actually an achievement.

I understand but its guilty gear they will add moves and stages characters and changes it too rev nearly a year before I heard anyone say anything about it they take there time with things and if we're good boys and girls pogo may come back

[0000]

Faust losing his pogo is hurting his mixup pressure game. They should buff the divekick plus so it will safely connect to afro command grab mindgame. Also trumpet shoulda put near faust.

The problem is his mixup game only work if enemy got afro, before u just put pogo and that's it.

[76]

If Faust were good he'd be unbearable to actually fight.

[Just a Crow]

Publicado originalmente por idexed:

If Faust were good he'd be unbearable to actually fight.

Fair don't want another may someone who's good because of 1 annoying RAT MOVE

[Just a Crow]

Publicado originalmente por Jigsam:

Faust losing his pogo is hurting his mixup pressure game. They should buff the divekick plus so it will safely connect to afro command grab mindgame. Also trumpet shoulda put near faust.

The problem is his mixup game only work if enemy got afro, before u just put pogo and that's it.

I get your problems with him (idk what best would fix them) but I've never had much problem with trumpet and I've been playing him all day if opponent grabs trumpet unless there axl or our grubby friend who's name im not going to try to type the whirlwind move can allow you to keep good air pressure to dodge it and not get punished but I'm also only 6 tier so I may not be the best at understanding how rough it actually can be

[MuskelBiber]

The Problem is in other guilty gear games Faust was a good character and the items stuff was a bonus/gimmick, in strife he needs the items/Afro to get his offense going, but in most matchups you are blocking non stop and there is no room for throwing items, and then you get donuts or trumpet.

I don't know why the trumpets spawns closer to you're opponent. I hate this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ item so much.

They want you to play the poke away game and keep you're opponent at distant but this don't work, because his buttons are too slow , his midrange options are ass, his close range options are ass, and his far options are just ok.

Characters like chip , giovanna , may , sol , millia they just steamroll you.

On top, he has the worst supers in the entire game.

And NO DAMAGE.

He was a good character in the Beta but they removed everything for whatever reason.


They could make him throw items when he does mixmixmix maybe 1-2 , because he was able to throw items from his pogostick. That would make mixmixmix + RC a option to get in and get maybe some items to start his offense without being forced to throw items in neutral.

[Just a Crow]

They did say there gearing for alot of buffs before this season is out so there's a good chance faust will be fixed but I still stand by my point if people stop sweating bullets and start playing like axl players people just goofing off being chill then you'll see faust can still be fun like getting triple hammer or playing bomb pong

[Regil0010]

Faust with tension is the most annoying character in the game, if he actually were good i'd feel like smashing my head through a wall every time i fought him.

[MuskelBiber]

Really? you think Faust with tension is more annoying than chip , sol , leo , ramenthal? I mean what can he do besides scarecrow into grab , or make his unsafe ♥♥♥♥ safe.


Or cancel his super for a grab/command grab


I mean all other characters spend there meter for 60+% dmg combos and Faust gets a grab .. yeah very dangerous.

[MuskelBiber]

Publicado originalmente por Just a Crow:

They did say there gearing for alot of buffs before this season is out so there's a good chance faust will be fixed but I still stand by my point if people stop sweating bullets and start playing like axl players people just goofing off being chill then you'll see faust can still be fun like getting triple hammer or playing bomb pong

Then tell me how do i play like Axl when I don't have his buttons or tools i can't poke people away
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You can just dash block against Faust and you are in ,he has nothing to stop people from moving forward, unlike axl.

And if you miss one of his bigger buttons , you need to RC to make it safe because the recovery is so long that you're opponent can get a dash in ,to punish on you. Its actually stupid.

Playing like a clown and goofing around , doing random scarecrows in neutral , item toss spam , this stops working at higher floors.

Don't get me wrong, I still have fun with him , but most of the time the fun comes from people just being bad or ignoring items.

[Just a Crow]

Publicado originalmente por Dagget:

Publicado originalmente por Just a Crow:

They did say there gearing for alot of buffs before this season is out so there's a good chance faust will be fixed but I still stand by my point if people stop sweating bullets and start playing like axl players people just goofing off being chill then you'll see faust can still be fun like getting triple hammer or playing bomb pong

Then tell me how do i play like Axl when I don't have his buttons or tools i can't poke people away
╮(╯_╰)╭.

You can just dash block against Faust and you are in ,he has nothing to stop people from moving forward, unlike axl.

And if you miss one of his bigger buttons , you need to RC to make it safe because the recovery is so long that you're opponent can get a dash in ,to punish on you. Its actually stupid.

Playing like a clown and goofing around , doing random scarecrows in neutral , item toss spam , this stops working at higher floors.

Don't get me wrong, I still have fun with him , but most of the time the fun comes from people just being bad or ignoring items.

Like I said before im only a floor 6 but I really just like having fun and that is what faust has been fun it may be because im just playing casually but even when I loose it doesn't feel too bad

[MuskelBiber]

Publicado originalmente por Just a Crow:

Publicado originalmente por Dagget:

Then tell me how do i play like Axl when I don't have his buttons or tools i can't poke people away
╮(╯_╰)╭.

You can just dash block against Faust and you are in ,he has nothing to stop people from moving forward, unlike axl.

And if you miss one of his bigger buttons , you need to RC to make it safe because the recovery is so long that you're opponent can get a dash in ,to punish on you. Its actually stupid.

Playing like a clown and goofing around , doing random scarecrows in neutral , item toss spam , this stops working at higher floors.

Don't get me wrong, I still have fun with him , but most of the time the fun comes from people just being bad or ignoring items.

Like I said before im only a floor 6 but I really just like having fun and that is what faust has been fun it may be because im just playing casually but even when I loose it doesn't feel too bad

That's completely fine, and I am also not a pro or very good.

Faust is the only reason I play this game, and he's still the most fun for me.

It's just bothers me that he was a lot better in the Strive beta and then they took a lot of stuff away for no reason.

[Just a Crow]

Publicado originalmente por Dagget:

Publicado originalmente por Just a Crow:

Like I said before im only a floor 6 but I really just like having fun and that is what faust has been fun it may be because im just playing casually but even when I loose it doesn't feel too bad

That's completely fine, and I am also not a pro or very good.

Faust is the only reason I play this game, and he's still the most fun for me.

It's just bothers me that he was a lot better in the Strive beta and then they took a lot of stuff away for no reason.

Idk there reason but knowing the guilty gear team they probably had one not sure if it would have been a good reason but they have one we'll just wait coming up is some buffs from what I understand maybe not next dlc character but defiantly the one after will come with alot of fixes

[Vassago Rain]

He has some crippling flaws.
Gatlings are limited/very specific.
Can only deal significant damage when employing character/weight class specific combos.
Reliant on universal mechanics to deal with any kind of pressure.
RNG.
More RNG.
RNG items sometimes do nothing.
No real way to get people off him, no matter how much resources you have banked and what items you have in play.
Normals are very awkward.
Overdrives are really, really bad value, even when you get super lucky and 1-hit Bridget.
Poor to extremely weak durability, depending on the game. Almost always in the lowest bracket.

Those have always been there, however. New in Strive:
Meter hungry for very little gain.
Some RNG items are strictly bad.
No replacement for the pogo poke attacks, like the close and far flower.
New, more complicated mini-Faust isn't a suitable replacement for the multiple more basic mini-Fausts from previous games.

He has some really huge pros that no one wants to touch upon, and they're a lot more accentuated in Strive:
His buttons are very big and do lots of damage, with strange and/or powerful hit properties.
His baka hitboxes are a big boon, Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.
Supreme air-to-ground with Strive's version of LOVE!
Access to essentially unmissable guard crush through meteors.
Hook and fish autocombo is so scary, it's virtually guaranteed people will burst to break it.
Very powerful in the air, which translates to very powerful when you employ the dust well, which is really nice since his dust is multi-functional and super good.
Can crawl under pretty much every 'true mid' and most projectiles that currently exist in Strive.
Gets setups and options without the player needing to think.
Afro item.
Arguably the character that benefits the most from the new roman cancel system. There's very little he can't accomplish with 50% tension.
Command grab inflicts afro, has good range, and also deals damage, with potential for followups, unlike most others.
Knockdowns are a dime a dozen.