Record coil count for me to see

[CheckYourSix]

So I've only ever seen 7 max coils slots up until now with 13 max inherit coils. Never both of those on the same item though. Max coil count value I've seen is 29 up until now.

https://i.imgur.com/reghwwK.jpg

that is 8 coil slots which is 24 coil value by itself. Then another 9 inherit coil count for a total of 33 coils! All I can say is WOW!

[steve]

I say holy crap ! I want one of those now!
I think the most I've seen is 6.

[Warped_One]

Wow, that's like the RNG jackpot.

Im curious if all armor has the chance for 8 open slots and built-in coils above 6 or something. In a previous game version I found a built-in 6 + 2 coils plus 7 open slots, leather armor, but thats about all so far. Judging from how many items we have cumulatively farmed, the chance for these armors has to astronomically low. Its probable like 75% for 2, 15% for 3, 5% for 4, 2.5% for 5, 1% for 6... and for anything higher is basically getting struck twice by lightning while waving a winning powerball ticket level of luck.

[CheckYourSix]

Originally posted by Warped_One:

Wow, that's like the RNG jackpot.

Im curious if all armor has the chance for 8 open slots and built-in coils above 6 or something. In a previous game version I found a built-in 6 + 2 coils plus 7 open slots, leather armor, but thats about all so far. Judging from how many items we have cumulatively farmed, the chance for these armors has to astronomically low. Its probable like 75% for 2, 15% for 3, 5% for 4, 2.5% for 5, 1% for 6... and for anything higher is basically getting struck twice by lightning while waving a winning powerball ticket level of luck.

So here is my theory based on other gaming experience. Items in this game has affixes in the form of prefixes and suffixes. Most of the prefixes are flat values and most of the suffixes are % values. The only two I know which are not are crit rate % and damage % are I believe prefixes. There is also prefix and suffix values which are coil sockets instead of a value like Fire Reinforcement. So the main armor pieces all have a bare minimum of 2 coil sockets. Uniques have up to 6 affixes where yellow Rares have up to 4 affixes. I am not 100% positive on the socket value, but it is at least 1 and I think 2. I am not sure if an affix can be a 3 for socket value.

So what that image I linked in the original post is a chest piece with 2 affixes of Strength +5 and Judgement +5. The base of the chest piece should be 2 coil sockets. I believe I rolled 4 affixes as coil sockets. or it could be 3 affixes as +2s with an affix as a dud that did nothing. Either would result in the 8 sockets I got there. I believe than an affix can roll as a "dud" that means the affix is nothing. Which explains why you get yellows with 4 affixes and some with 2 which is minimum with no extra coil sockets.

Of course I don't have access to the code so I am not sure. This is based on personal experience with this game and other games with a similar RNG loot system.

[Gards]

got a pair of gloves with 6 slots. The most i've seen is 6 slots

[RChang]

You can try the crafting station in the survivor hut.
https://imgur.com/a/7QIVFRR
3 coils + 10 coils + 7 slots. Total 34 coils

[CheckYourSix]

The bench at the survivor shelters is still random-esque. It isn't a save scum random but a daily seed. Still you aren't going to get that many coils all the time. Also, how did you get a Mutant Lion Head unique out of the bench in the survivor shelter?

[RChang]

Originally posted by CheckYourSix:

The bench at the survivor shelters is still random-esque. It isn't a save scum random but a daily seed. Still you aren't going to get that many coils all the time. Also, how did you get a Mutant Lion Head unique out of the bench in the survivor shelter?

The crafting table in the survivor's hut can synthesize red equipment. The exclusive equipment of the dungeon boss cannot be obtained through synthesis. Mutated animal equipment can be obtained through synthesis.

The synthesized equipment data seems to be random, but I feel that there is a certain range of random numbers in the random table. I got many desert suits with full stats +10 drop rate +85% through synthesis.

https://imgur.com/a/mRkI8tJ

[steve]

I got a pretty good mutant lion's head through combining red items in the survivor's shelter.

[CheckYourSix]

I have only ever got crap from the survivor shelter.

[steve]

I know it's usually few and far between but this has been the best thing I've got from it in a while.
I even tried saving the game before I used the bench and it gave me the same crap everytime I did it and reloaded the game.

[CheckYourSix]

Originally posted by steve:

I know it's usually few and far between but this has been the best thing I've got from it in a while.
I even tried saving the game before I used the bench and it gave me the same crap everytime I did it and reloaded the game.

You cannot save scum the bench there. It is seeded.

[evilbollweevil]

Originally posted by CheckYourSix:

Originally posted by steve:

I know it's usually few and far between but this has been the best thing I've got from it in a while.
I even tried saving the game before I used the bench and it gave me the same crap everytime I did it and reloaded the game.

You cannot save scum the bench there. It is seeded.

CheckY6 -- damn, you're hardcore :) I have gotten a mutant lion head in survivor shelter before. Are all the survivor huts seeded the same? They offer different challenges, but maybe I'm superstitious, but I sometimes pick the farthest shelter from base for unique reassembly. I need to test that out with some savescums.

[CheckYourSix]

The seed applies to them all at the same time.

[evilbollweevil]

Originally posted by CheckYourSix:

The seed applies to them all at the same time.

Thank you, as always I check my six with CheckY6 first before...well, ya know :)

[Warped_One]

Im a recovering save-scummer and noticed this game started having fixed drops for containers and other things many versions ago. I tried the red bench and can confirm they are definitely RNG fixed. Combining reds just seems like someone's finger is on the scale, because the combos Ive gotten are nothing to write home about.

However, I can also confirm that save scumming is alive and well for the mutated animals. When I find a lion or polar bear, Ill do 15 to 20 reloads just to get an idea of whats possible for the items, stat-wise. Sadly this game used to load at least 50% faster back in the day, and even with my pretty decent rig, it takes a minute or so. Kind of takes the fun out of it, almost...