Night of the Dead

Night of the Dead

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Kyle2k10 Apr 21, 2023 @ 10:03am
Loading saves still taking too long
It's April 2023 and the loading time is still insanely long, taking about 3-4 minutes.

My PC is an i7 10700K, RTX 4070Ti, 16GB RAM, Sound Blaster Z and the game is on a Western Digital WD Green 2.5 1000GB, non-M.2 SSD, but still very fast.
I thought the recent patches would gradually solve this, but the problem remains. I can't see the reason for such a delay.

Is there a way to fix this without uninstall the game and reinstall it - if that solves anything?
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dcy665 Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
What loading time?
From when you click on PLAY to having the start message?

Edit: Similar setup where my SSD is connected via USB 3.1
Borderlands 3 loads in about 90 seconds.
There is a lot of activity going on, but I wonder if the Devs aren't displaying the busy bits that Gearbox does.
My loading of NoTD won't help, as I am playing 1.3 which is decidedly smaller game.
Last edited by dcy665; Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:45pm
Kyle2k10 Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by dcy665:
What loading time?
From when you click on PLAY to having the start message?

Edit: Similar setup where my SSD is connected via USB 3.1
Borderlands 3 loads in about 90 seconds.
There is a lot of activity going on, but I wonder if the Devs aren't displaying the busy bits that Gearbox does.
My loading of NoTD won't help, as I am playing 1.3 which is decidedly smaller game.

dcy665, when I click LOAD, sometimes it takes a while for the loading screen to appear, but what really bothers me is the delay of the process as a whole. Sometimes loading takes 2 minutes or more, I don't think that's reasonable with my specs.

On more than one occasion I noticed that the sequence of patches and fixes made the game increasingly unstable, even leading to crashes and memory leaks. I figured that the same process could be causing an increasing delay in loading saves, who knows.

In any case, I decided to uninstall and reinstall the game to see if it at least alleviates the problem.
Kyle2k10 Apr 21, 2023 @ 7:33pm 
Uninstalling and reinstalling was a bad idea, the problem got worse and worse.
Even with a clean install, the game now doubled the loading time and have framedrops every few seconds.

This game is very good, I understand that it's an one man job but - considering that I still haven't tested The Last of Us for PC - this is without a doubt the most poorly optimized game I've ever played.
Last edited by Kyle2k10; Apr 21, 2023 @ 7:34pm
Shadowrun Apr 21, 2023 @ 7:46pm 
and unfortunately you're only speaking for your own personal experience. the game runs fine for me and my PC is a potato. occasionally it gets stuck on the loading screen and i have to CTRL+ALT+DEL close it but other than that it's been pretty snappy for me.
Kyle2k10 Apr 21, 2023 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Shadowrun:
and unfortunately you're only speaking for your own personal experience. the game runs fine for me and my PC is a potato. occasionally it gets stuck on the loading screen and i have to CTRL+ALT+DEL close it but other than that it's been pretty snappy for me.

My friend, as far as I understand your case seems to be one of the few people I see who doesn't complain about the constant framedrops, screen freezes, memory leaks and even crashes to desktop. Just check out the discussion forum, camarada.

For my part, I know at least 6 people who report the same problems, albeit at different intensities, including my cousin and two nephews.

Just yesterday we played a Co-op here at home with 3 computers, all with 16Gb of RAM: my cousin's PC is an i7 11700K/RTX 2070 Super and his son (my nephew) with an i7 3770/RTX 2060. A second nephew was the 4th player (Internet), but his PC is weak (i5/GTX 1650/16Gb RAM, I believe) and on his config this problem is perfectly justifiable - even though his videocard is recommended to run the game, according to the Steam page. And, as I said, I know 2 more colleagues, both with PCs similar to mine, who have the game and report the same experiences.

To be honest, in my specific case I take advantage of my specs and run the game with maximum video quality possible in my 4k TV (3840 x 2160), but it that cannot be an excuse, as the normal count is between 90 and 120 FPS (of course, except for the times when the reported problems occurs).
Shadowrun Apr 21, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by Kyle2k10:
My friend, as far as I understand your case seems to be one of the few people I see who doesn't complain about the constant framedrops, screen freezes, memory leaks and even crashes to desktop. Just check out the discussion forum, camarada.
i've been subscribed to this forum for more than 2 years "camrada" so i think you have me mistaken for someone who doesn't already read everything that gets posted here.

anyways i shouldn't have posted because i have absolutely no solutions for you. my game goofs up once in awhile too, it doesn't always run like it does right now.

EDIT:

you know what, i do know what the problem is with you and everyone else. you got these fast processors and think you're ready for max textures but your wimpy 16 GB of RAM can't handle it. your PC spends all it's time buffering the same things in and out of RAM and your virtual RAM because of it.

so what i would do is buy more RAM. i bet you got 1 stick or 2 sticks of RAM in there and 4 slots on that mainboard? so expand that RAM capacity or turn down those texture sizes.

i did exactly this. 28 GB of RAM right now on this machine solved a lot of the trouble i was having with this game. the other thing that was a solution for me was playing on a dedicated server. now my game is always running, i just have to log in to it, and it's super snappy. but i needed the dedi CPU because my CPU is a potato

so your solution depends on your situation. assess your situation and find your solution. no game runs exactly the same on every machine. all games have these troubles. some games run fine for you i bet, others not so much?
Last edited by Shadowrun; Apr 21, 2023 @ 10:38pm
Kyle2k10 Apr 22, 2023 @ 8:48am 
Once again: I really appreciate the game which, from a creative point of view, is one of the best in recent times. I do not intend here to admonish the developer or whoever, just to point out an serious issue that is very common among its users.

Originally posted by Shadowrun:
i've been subscribed to this forum for more than 2 years "camrada" so i think you have me mistaken for someone who doesn't already read everything that gets posted here.

My friend, no offense, I did not mistake you with anyone else: how many posts you have already answered on these forums is irrelevant to me, I also have Steam and have been frequenting these discussions for more than a decade and a half. Sorry to say, but our arrogant reply clearly ignores what is written in this forum.

Originally posted by Shadowrun:
anyways i shouldn't have posted because i have absolutely no solutions for you. my game goofs up once in awhile too, it doesn't always run like it does right now.

On that point, I 100% agree with you.
Honestly, I don't understand the motivation of people who like to enter their colleagues' requests for help, like a Developer's defense lawyer, only to deny them or disqualify their problems and saying that "on my PC the game runs fine" and without presenting any useful tip that justify the trouble.

Originally posted by Shadowrun:
you know what, i do know what the problem is with you and everyone else. you got these fast processors and think you're ready for max textures but your wimpy 16 GB of RAM can't handle it. your PC spends all it's time buffering the same things in and out of RAM and your virtual RAM because of it.

Is this your solution? Point me where this requirement is written on the game's Steam sales page and I'll agree with you.
It's called bad optimization, plain and simple. Your "solution" is to shift the problem from the developer to the player.
My W11 here runs on a stable 6.1Gb of RAM, leaving "wimpy" 10Gb for a game, out of the 12Gb of VRAM on my RTX4070Ti.
None of my 472+ Steam games, including heavyweights like Witcher 3 Remaster, Cyberpunk 2077, Dying Light 2, Dead Space Remake, Death Stranding Director's Cut, Far Cry 6, and many others, none of these require that much memory to play at maximum quality - and even with RT turned on. By comparison, NOTD is far less complex enough for this.

BTW: "camarada" in Portuguese means "comrade", it's not an offense.
Last edited by Kyle2k10; Apr 22, 2023 @ 10:22am
Shadowrun Apr 22, 2023 @ 11:54am 
double your RAM and watch all your PC troubles disappear. you're the only one who can solve this problem. there's nothing anyone on here can do for you on this issue.

EDIT:

on my current settings: high texture size, high pre-loading level, this game is using 11 GB of my RAM and i have a 4 GB GPU that's probably also full. so all i'm saying is this game WANTS 16 GB or more depending on your settings. how can you run windows and all your background apps and still have room for this?
Last edited by Shadowrun; Apr 22, 2023 @ 12:15pm
Ben Apr 22, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Kyle2k10:
...and the game is on a Western Digital WD Green 2.5 1000GB...

😐
No patch will fix this.
Last edited by Ben; Apr 22, 2023 @ 2:41pm
Kyle2k10 Apr 22, 2023 @ 7:44pm 
Originally posted by Ben:
Originally posted by Kyle2k10:
...and the game is on a Western Digital WD Green 2.5 1000GB...

😐
No patch will fix this.

This is a high-speed SSD, if you don't know.
Kyle2k10 Apr 22, 2023 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by Shadowrun:
double your RAM and watch all your PC troubles disappear. you're the only one who can solve this problem. there's nothing anyone on here can do for you on this issue.

EDIT:

on my current settings: high texture size, high pre-loading level, this game is using 11 GB of my RAM and i have a 4 GB GPU that's probably also full. so all i'm saying is this game WANTS 16 GB or more depending on your settings. how can you run windows and all your background apps and still have room for this?

Your solution certainly fix all the problems, no doubt about it, that's a crystal clear misuse of memory, but is that right?

If the developer recommends an optimal configuration, he is saying that his game can run with all its attributes on. And mine far exceeds the recommended maximum settings.

I'm not making a fuss, but it's the developer who has to fix the game's poor optimization, not the customer who has to shell out additional big bucks to create a NASA supercomputer to run the game he sold.
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