Statement: Why there will ne no nudity in the game

[AssembleGames-Whitman]

Hello,

A lot of fans asked why there will be no nudity in the sequel (as there was no in Wet Dreams Don't Dry as well).

We had this discussion for our previous Larry game and our opinion has not changed.
We have not developed the older Larry titles before WDDD but Wet Dreams Don't Dry and Wet Dreams Dry Twice are Larry games we wanted to make and we do not want to have nudity in the game. That would be not our approach, not what we wanted to achieve. Yes, some or many fans do not like it. But we think we have proven that we handled the Larry IP (which we do not own; we have licensed it) very good, that we have listened to the fans and implemented in WDDD a lot of things from the older Larry titles. But to make a Larry game with nudity, that is not our Larry title, sorry.

PLUS it would be a problem with age rating, especially for possible console versions (We have not yet decided about console versions but we had a PS4 and Switch version for Wet Dreams Don't Dry). IF we had nudity in the PC version we would have to delete it completely from a console version. Otherwise we would get an Adult Only rating for the consoles and no Adult Only games are allowed on consoles so we would not be able to sell it.
So, the only solution would be to censor our own game, to cut out all the nudity to get a Mature rating (like WDDD received) to be allowed to distribute our game on consoles.
That would be A. very unfair to the console gamers because they would play a less content and censored version of the game and B. also quite a lot of additional work because we would need to edit and port new versions especially for consoles.

To be honest, it is not about the extra work (which would also be extra costs), we just don't want to have two different versions of the same game, that would be absolutely unfair to possible console customers.

BUT the main (and only) reason is - as mentioned above - that we do not want to make a Larry game with nudity.

Cheers,
Stefan Marcinek
Founder & CEO
Assemble Entertainment

[( 🦈Warp Zone🦈 )]

Originally posted by Assemble_Xer0:

Hi everybody,
thank you for joining and clarifying once again.
As already mentioned, there is quite some nudity in there, just imagine the paintings in the hotel lobby, not to spoil too much.
However, if you are looking for explicit content over the course of the whole game with detailed/explicit sex-scenes, this is something this game has not to offer and we wanted to make sure, players do not get the impression this is in the game, as it would be an Adult Only game, which Leisure Suit Larry - Wet Dreams Dry Twice is not and was never supposed to be, neither in terms of all Larry games (minor exceptions) and our approach to Larry, which is the reason of this thread. :)

-cheers

well said and conclusive, should lock the thread with this statement.

[Orange Guise]

I will believe the developers... AND buy the game...

when the developers confess a single cheat hidden in the game.
More than a bit of nudity, the true heritage of Larry is ridiculous cheating secrets.

[Mith]

Originally posted by Assemble_Xer0:

Hi everybody,
thank you for joining and clarifying once again.
As already mentioned, there is quite some nudity in there, just imagine the paintings in the hotel lobby, not to spoil too much.
However, if you are looking for explicit content over the course of the whole game with detailed/explicit sex-scenes, this is something this game has not to offer and we wanted to make sure, players do not get the impression this is in the game, as it would be an Adult Only game, which Leisure Suit Larry - Wet Dreams Dry Twice is not and was never supposed to be, neither in terms of all Larry games (minor exceptions) and our approach to Larry, which is the reason of this thread. :)

-cheers

If you do not want players to get a wrong idea, license a different game, not a Larry Game. Nobody is asking for an adult movie with explicit sex-scenes, people are asking for original games kind of content, to be true to the franchise.

Please, do not change the sense of the words, like a sjw would do. This is not even an approach, is just using Larry name to sell a different game, with other words, a kind of scam. You can clarify it here, but you know not everyone read the forums, and not everyone use steam. If you can get some money from people with the wrong expectations, It's ok for you right? Making this thread is not enough; you should advertise this at covers, art and promo. But is better to say ey, we already said it! Your fault if you did not read this.

People do not care about your vision, opinions and political views. People care about the game they are going to buy and play, is not our fault that you want to change a "spicy and funny" game to a different game that fits your political ideology.

You can delete my post or ban me, I do not care, but you cannot say I am posting this everywhere, because I am not, in fact I am not even going to follow this. I do not need you to educate me or show me your visions, I needed you do make new Larry games, not a game with detailed sex scenes or this thing.

We both know this thread is just to cover your backs, and I do not have any sympathy for your company, however, we are at the middle of a pandemic, so I wish you safety. Maybe someday you will learn that gaming is just for fun, different types and genres are welcome, and there was nothing wrong with the original approach of Larry games and no reason to take the ip to make something different.

-cheers.

[The Symbol formerly known as Bob]

Hello again,

I think it's wrong to say it's no Larry Game because it lacks sexual content, because it's full of sexual content, we can see Larry nude ass too.

For me it is even too much sexual content, because Larry is more about humor. He's a looser trying hard to get in touch with women. It's about humor and the sexual content is the vessel to carry that humor. But in this Larry the humor is often overwhelmed by just plain sexual content. I guess we are not twelfe years old and Larry is not famous for a beavis and butthead styled humor, like "look penis - haha"...

I also found it disturbing that Larry is having succesful sex with a lot of women, this is simply not Larry style, ok, you can develop Larry, but it's no fun.
I missed the sex scenes, there are mostly blackscreens. I don't miss pictures of a naked Larry and some girls there, but I miss the reward for my progress in the game and the developers missed a great chance to place some, let's say classy, humor about sex.
And there's also the possibility to pixel every delicate part of everything, like the classics did, I guess that would be ok for the most of us, because it's not about explicit nudity, it's about humor.

My point was NOT, that there's no sexual content in the game. My point is that there's a f******g overwhelming sexual content in the game, including even nudity (no boobs of course), but we have developers, which claim that there's no nudity in the game because of their own ethic decision.
We have developers who claim to the fanbase that there's of course nudity in the game and for the rest of the world there's a topic (yes this one) where they claim that there's no nudity in the game.
They want to do it right for everyone and that's what I call double standards or a lie.
That's the point that pisses me off.
If you use humor in general and humor about sexuality in this paticullar case you can't do it right for everyone. It's a controversal field. And if you develop a Larry adventure you will have thought about this...

You cannot say nudity is bad and sell Larry games on the other hand, maybe you should have done a Kings Quest sequel or something instead.
What would have happened if Monty Phyton and South Park would have tried to do it right for everyone? The Simpsons for example tried to milden their humor and that were the worst seasons of all times.
Maybe think about that? And don't forget, you (dear developers) have chosen Larry to work on....

For me your answers are showing that my accusations are true and for my it's a failure to open that topic, seriously WHY???
To tell the world that you are not behind the original idea of the Larry series, or what?

And for me it's legit to say we show no boobs, because we are forced to do so, but this, sorry again dear developers, leaves a real bad taste in my mouth. Especially after you claimed that "there is quite some nudity in there, just imagine the paintings in the hotel lobby" after you posted in the opener "but to make a Larry game with nudity, that is not our Larry title, sorry." And by the way, Larry is NOT your invention, it's Al Lowes one and in my opinion you have to pay respect for that, nobody forced you to make a sequel (I hope).

And one last thought, I found that idea with the DLC great, maybe you can make everybody happy with it. But after there's no censorship in this game, just a lack of some content, maybe it's hard create a proper DLC.

[Seagal]

Here's my issue with this statement:

It's not about the nudity or your decision to limit it here. It's about the focus on consoles and fairness to console owners with a franchise that is historically been PC only. You're choosing to let consoles and censorship dictate your vision for the game. You might say it's not compromised and you wanted it this way, but what are you supposed to say? You kind of have to say that whether it's true or not.

The fact is when you want to be on consoles you're already put a leash on yourself that's going to prevent you from doing things. Everything you can do now in regards to the comedy has changed because of this decision.

And what is this fairness crap? Life isn't fair. Gaming isn't fair. No one wants a censored game, but that's a console issue, and not something that PC deals with. Don't like it? Then don't game on console.

I mean, should developers restrict the PC platform because of consoles? Should we have visual parity across all platforms because it would be unfair to console owners? They pay the same price, so it would be unfair for PC gamers to have exclusive settings, enhanced visuals, etc (that sometimes make it seem like a generational leap), right?

Honestly it was a big mistake to even bring up consoles, because I don't think many people are going to respect that stance at all. All people are gonna see is that you're focused on fairness to consoles, so the game is probably limited by that, and they'll just immediately disregard it.

It's not like people couldn't come to PC to play this game if they wanted, since any potato can run this game. I'd bet you a lot of money that even console players would rather just play this on PC instead of having a watered down game just so it could release on consoles.

Again, this isn't about lack of nudity or anything with that. It's the fact that you openly come out and say you've put a leash on yourselves for console fairness.

[EvilBob]

The audience doesn't need to see nudity in a Larry game, but Larry sure does. That was the big issue with your first game, the dog has to get his treat sometimes. The second game was much better in that regard. The important thing to remember is that if Larry gets with a girl, there should always be some sort of negative out of it. Unicorn girl was the best incarnation of that in the first game. Spy lady was the best in the second.

It was decent. I don't think the love angle you had with Faith worked out well, but I don't have any major problems with the game.

[pfournier33]

I don't know why this bothers anybody, the original games only had nudity through easter eggs or non essential parts. Didn't effect my enjoyment one iota.

[Mart]

You made the right decision. The days were point and click adventures were very popular are over, you can still make good games though, but it will not just take over or be that tier 1 game that you had in the 80s and 90s. Consoles are not easy to release games on and have much red tape to go through, this company already took a risc by remaking a new Larry game. Releasing the game on different platforms is good as it will increase the playerbase and brand of the game.

As for Larry, the humor, the puzzles, the music and the jokes is what made Larry.
Nudity never dominated the game. The game was just as fun without seeing a simple niple.

I can only respect what you guys done so far, so THANK YOU again!

[CoolINaturrBoy]

Originally posted by CoolImmatureNatureBoy:

Originally posted by ( ✨Warp Zone✨ ):

Hilariously, this game does have nudity, just in ways you don't expect (framed painting in the hotel for instance)

Huh..., wait .. so they didnt censor or they added it? or its only just on painting only?

Oh... actually nevermind :/.
......
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2310813721
...well.. yeah... their choice.. :/...
''Sigh''... I miss the 90s...

[Krista_Diamante]

Allright, look. I played the game. I really hope you don't continue making Larry games and that you just let someone who really appreciates them actually get the IP licensing next. Especially since you turned Larry into an actual HERO instead of an accidental hero. He was supposed to be a loser always looking to get laid, and accidentally saving the world in the process. I loved the humor (Which was sorely lacking in this one), I loved the "reward nudity" for Larry (which he just suddenly got to screw them all now, no consequences) that's entirely NOT Larry.
You spend a lot of time talking about "your Larry" and "your vision" but what about the fans. This is a long running series, or at least it was, and I for one would rather see it go down in flames then see what you did to the ending of this game! It's ridiculous and ENTIRELY NOT LARRY.

[wickid187]

@Assemble Team,

I haven't yet played your sequel but did just wrap up WDDD. First as someone who played all of the LSL games during my youth, I really appreciate you guys picking up the torch and making a fun adventure game with WDDD. While Al Lowe wasn't involved in the development, I think you guys did a pretty good job carrying on the legacy with a good story line and reminiscent game play of LSL1, traveling around Lost Wages and trying to get the various gals with a nice up to date spin on things. Given what happened to Adventure Gaming and companies like Sierra and Lucas Arts, I truly appreciate a company that can pick up the IP and build a quality game with a good story line.

While I purchased WDDD when it was announced, I just now finally got around to playing and completing it. I'll likely pick up WDDT in the not to distant future.

I did want to chime in on the choice for lack of nudity. I am like many of the other fans and do believe that nudity in the LSL games should be there. I get the reason given is do to the rating systems on console games; however, I don't think that should be a real factor. If I recall correctly going back to the original LSL games, you could unlock dirtier versions of the game by successfully answering the pre-game adult questions. If you didn't answer them correctly and played the game, they had the censor bar over the naughty bits; however, if all questions were answered their was no bar. It's not like you could see much in those early CGA/EGA days, but it was a good means to allow "nudity" and likely did not require that much additional code. If something like that could be written in for the PC version, while having the console versions always cencored by default, I think you might make a happy compromise with your die hard fans while still being able to sell to the console market without as much risk. If your console gamers want an uncensored version, let them pick it up on the PC.

Again, I really appreciate you guys picking up the LSL IP and making a really good adventure game in WDDD and I look forward to playing WDDT in the future. Wish we could see some other classic sequels like Space Quest come out, or even a new Monkey Island (but I doubt Disney will ever let that IP go even though they'll never do anything with it).

Best of luck with your future endeavors and thank you for keeping the adventure gaming spirit alive and well.

[Assemble_Xer0]

Hi everybody,
thank you for your passion and dedication, as well as kind words and feedback.
@wickid187
As you have enjoyed LSL WDDD, you should definitely give WDDT a try ;)

-cheers

[MLBlue]

I cant believe people are still complaining about this, why do only certain people who believe a certain way get to be "real fans"? I like that these games have a story and make you feel things (I really got attached to Piper). Its just a sex comedy but people act like it some kind of Star Wars legacy thing, Fanboys are the worst snowflakes ive ever seen (which of course is what ruined Star Wars as well). I wouldnt want to make games at all for such an ungrateful bunch that has to politicize everything but thats me. Good on you for ignoring the haters and making the game you want to make. A franchise is supposed to have loyal customers with opinions made by grown adults, not entitled bullies.

[HardcoreCasual]

Hey. Thanks for letting us know. I will not be buying your games then.

Admittedly, I've only played Magna ♥♥♥ Lauda. But I loved that game. It wasn't afraid to have sex and nudity and raunchy jokes. I was too young to have purchased the previous games in the series. And its clear that the later games have been purchased by a group who isn't staying true to its past. So, I will be avoiding the series until someone comes along that will be true to the heritage of LSL.

[( 🦈Warp Zone🦈 )]

Originally posted by HardcoreCasual:

Hey. Thanks for letting us know. I will not be buying your games then.

Admittedly, I've only played Magna ♥♥♥ Lauda. But I loved that game. It wasn't afraid to have sex and nudity and raunchy jokes. I was too young to have purchased the previous games in the series. And its clear that the later games have been purchased by a group who isn't staying true to its past. So, I will be avoiding the series until someone comes along that will be true to the heritage of LSL.

No offense, but Magna ♥♥♥ Laude isn't really staying true to it's past games. It was even despised by LSL's creator (Al Lowe) himself because it missed the entire point of the LSL games. These new games maybe miss the mark of staying true to the old games in a few ways, sure. But they definitely have more in common with the heritage of the series than Magna ♥♥♥ Laude and Box Office Bust have had.

Admittedly I like Magna ♥♥♥ Laude for other reasons, but when comparing it to the old LSL games, misses its mark by a whole mile and a half.