Combat Mission Shock Force 2

Combat Mission Shock Force 2

Hustler1 Aug 29, 2021 @ 7:08pm
Where do this guy get their data?
The M2 bradley gun can´t penetrate the T72 lower armor in real life BUT ingame it can do it at 1 km. The lower hull is 80 mm at 60 degree which is equal to 160 LOS armor
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Metal Izanagi Aug 31, 2021 @ 6:13pm 
I mean, has an M2 Bradley ever actually engaged a T72 in combat irl? It also depends on the angle being fired from and what angle the target is at, I'm pretty sure.
Romka94 Sep 1, 2021 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Metal Izanagi:
I mean, has an M2 Bradley ever actually engaged a T72 in combat irl? It also depends on the angle being fired from and what angle the target is at, I'm pretty sure.
Engaged, but with TOW launchers.
Karsk Sep 12, 2021 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by Romka94:
Originally posted by Metal Izanagi:
I mean, has an M2 Bradley ever actually engaged a T72 in combat irl? It also depends on the angle being fired from and what angle the target is at, I'm pretty sure.
Engaged, but with TOW launchers.
I'd be interested in hearing that story. Must have been Iraq
Romka94 Sep 13, 2021 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by Steve Spaghetti, The Meme Thief:
Originally posted by Romka94:
Engaged, but with TOW launchers.
I'd be interested in hearing that story. Must have been Iraq
Yes, in Iraq, at least during Desert Storm but probably during 2003 invasion too. I dont know details, you probably can find it in the internet.
OneShotz177 Sep 23, 2021 @ 6:43pm 
I'm sure the Bradley has some AT capabilities.
warchief214 Sep 29, 2021 @ 1:35pm 
A Bradley can do some major damage to a cheap a$$ T-72 with the right rounds, I've seen that mess in action, lol I dont know about it surviving a full on battle with a tank but it was do able for us because Iraqi tank crews sucked, lol I mean hell In ww2 shermans killed tigers using good tactics, a tank crew will die or be knocked retarded if that tank is hit enough with that bush master from a Bradley. Its almost as powerful as a A-10's chain gun , it opened up T-72's with no problem. Remember a tank getting hit is not like TV, it has a crew of soft ass meat running that damn thing. An RPG will ring your Bell real good even in a Abrams, Its all about kinetic energy my friend. The tank dont have to blow up to get a kill, if the crew is dead the tank is dead.
warchief214 Sep 29, 2021 @ 1:41pm 
Almost forgot we had LAV's tearing up T-72's so I'm sure the Bradley did some of the same, at the time they had the same gun, LAV's did it without a TOW missle system imagine that??, lol
Smokedog6 Oct 11, 2021 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Romka94:
Originally posted by Steve Spaghetti, The Meme Thief:
I'd be interested in hearing that story. Must have been Iraq
Yes, in Iraq, at least during Desert Storm but probably during 2003 invasion too. I dont know details, you probably can find it in the internet.
I was in the invasion of Iraq and was told by some of the CAV guys that Bradley's were jacking up T72's at close range with their 25mm. They shot up abandoned armor too keep it from being occupied after they left the area prior to taking Baghdad. None the guys I talked too used TOWs. Of course you got to take into account that Iraqi T72's were not as well armored and upgraded as the Russian.
Romka94 Oct 11, 2021 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by AXE:
Originally posted by Romka94:
Yes, in Iraq, at least during Desert Storm but probably during 2003 invasion too. I dont know details, you probably can find it in the internet.
I was in the invasion of Iraq and was told by some of the CAV guys that Bradley's were jacking up T72's at close range with their 25mm. They shot up abandoned armor too keep it from being occupied after they left the area prior to taking Baghdad. None the guys I talked too used TOWs. Of course you got to take into account that Iraqi T72's were not as well armored and upgraded as the Russian.
They probably shot it from sides where armor is thin.
DINDU Oct 14, 2021 @ 3:00pm 
Brad or LAV auto cannon never did destroyed or damaged and asad babils (T-72) of the Iraqi armed forces of Arab Socialist Iraq, This is massive myth propagated by Western establishment, Yankee's ran like coward at the sight of battle hardened and HIGHLY motivated Iraqi tank crews. Outskirts of baghdad were littered with destroyed abrams and US imperialist soldier.
OneShotz177 Oct 14, 2021 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by LYSENKO-:
Brad or LAV auto cannon never did destroyed or damaged and asad babils (T-72) of the Iraqi armed forces of Arab Socialist Iraq, This is massive myth propagated by Western establishment, Yankee's ran like coward at the sight of battle hardened and HIGHLY motivated Iraqi tank crews. Outskirts of baghdad were littered with destroyed abrams and US imperialist soldier.
From what I heard. It was a sandbox full of cooked T-72'S 😂 and the middle east is full of disabled Soviet armor. The only American Abrams loses was due to friendly fire and avoidance of capture. The Rest are downgraded Egyptian exports lol.
It's a difference between exported Armor then the regular Varients.
Someone even said the Russian T-72 is better then the middle eastern one's.
DS was the only real combat the Abrams saw, other then that it's just sitting in villages protecting soilders just like the T-72.
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Hustler1 Oct 15, 2021 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Smokedog6:
Originally posted by Romka94:
Yes, in Iraq, at least during Desert Storm but probably during 2003 invasion too. I dont know details, you probably can find it in the internet.
I was in the invasion of Iraq and was told by some of the CAV guys that Bradley's were jacking up T72's at close range with their 25mm. They shot up abandoned armor too keep it from being occupied after they left the area prior to taking Baghdad. None the guys I talked too used TOWs. Of course you got to take into account that Iraqi T72's were not as well armored and upgraded as the Russian.
so the only thing you have is fairy tales?
Hustler1 Oct 15, 2021 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by warchief214:
A Bradley can do some major damage to a cheap a$$ T-72 with the right rounds, I've seen that mess in action, lol I dont know about it surviving a full on battle with a tank but it was do able for us because Iraqi tank crews sucked, lol I mean hell In ww2 shermans killed tigers using good tactics, a tank crew will die or be knocked retarded if that tank is hit enough with that bush master from a Bradley. Its almost as powerful as a A-10's chain gun , it opened up T-72's with no problem. Remember a tank getting hit is not like TV, it has a crew of soft ass meat running that damn thing. An RPG will ring your Bell real good even in a Abrams, Its all about kinetic energy my friend. The tank dont have to blow up to get a kill, if the crew is dead the tank is dead.
unless you mean TOW it cant
moyer4487 Dec 28, 2021 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Metal Izanagi:
I mean, has an M2 Bradley ever actually engaged a T72 in combat irl? It also depends on the angle being fired from and what angle the target is at, I'm pretty sure.


engaged T72 but used TOW during desert storm, wing man engaged T64 and somebody else in my platoon engaged T72. but we all used TOW. i have heard that the depleted uraniam armour piercing rounds could penetrate the side haul and side turret and the rear turret and haul at close range. within 200 meters? i dont remember it was a few years ago i read that. i also read more recently they are putting either a 30mm or 40mm cannon on the new bradleys. if so i'm sad i ets in 06. 16 years was long enough for me though
moyer4487 Dec 28, 2021 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Hustler1:
Originally posted by warchief214:
A Bradley can do some major damage to a cheap a$$ T-72 with the right rounds, I've seen that mess in action, lol I dont know about it surviving a full on battle with a tank but it was do able for us because Iraqi tank crews sucked, lol I mean hell In ww2 shermans killed tigers using good tactics, a tank crew will die or be knocked retarded if that tank is hit enough with that bush master from a Bradley. Its almost as powerful as a A-10's chain gun , it opened up T-72's with no problem. Remember a tank getting hit is not like TV, it has a crew of soft ass meat running that damn thing. An RPG will ring your Bell real good even in a Abrams, Its all about kinetic energy my friend. The tank dont have to blow up to get a kill, if the crew is dead the tank is dead.
unless you mean TOW it cant

i spent 16 years in the army. 10 as mechanized infantry. i spent a lot of time firing the weapon systems. and yes in combat dduring desert storm. and again in iraq 2. i killed a t72 with the TOW. when i was in a bradley our rounds would not pierce t72 armour. except at close range and in the rear. thats why we carry the TOW. but our job isnt to fight tanks. thats what tanks are for. i have heard that after i igot out in 2006 they got a depleted uranium ap round that would penetrate the side and rear turret and haul but at very close range. i shot the hell out of a t72 with my 25mm while the tc was reloading the TOW launcher. both my rockets fired but were duds. went about 50 meters and hit the ground. as i was firing i watched that big ass 125mm turning my direction. i was yelling at the TC, Coleman, hurry up LT im just pissing it off!!! i watched so many rounds ricochet and suddenly it exploaded. at first i was wondering what i got lucky and hit then i realized our wingman hit it with his TOW. whew, talking about a pucker factor of 10!! i'm sweating bullets now and my stomach has the butterfly feeling just thinking about it. i miss it though. wish i could roll back the clock to when i was 18 and do it all over again. i loved the bradley and i miss it. i need one for the house

tanks don't usually expload like u see in movies. sometimes flames shoot out of every hatch and u might see guys on fire trying to get out. however, something about russian tanks is half of the time the turrets blow sky high. like a 100ft high. if the ammo gets hit thats when the turrets going flying. pretty much every russian tank fro the t55 to the t72 does that. not sure if the t80 or t90 does that. during desert storm we took out more armoured vehicles in our bradleys then the abrams did. armoured vehicles are IFV, btr, APC, that kind of equipment. but the end result is not pretty, its terrible to be honest. i we could see everything good thru our optics. man some of them dudes were mangled. thankfully u dont see that so much in games. but im very thankful the devs have not figured out how to put smell in the game. smelling humans burning mixed with the vehicles and everything else is not pleasent
Last edited by moyer4487; Dec 28, 2021 @ 2:29pm
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