Hardest Puzzle

[Dragan]

For the people who beat the whole game without any hints or clues from the youtube or google or whatever, what was your hardest puzzle to solve. While some puzzles were little bit more difficult than another I solved most of them in 15-30 mins but the Valve one took so much time I felt ultra retarded by the end and almost gave up. I though from the book that every valve that is horizontal is closed and vertical is open and spend forever looking for 4th cap only to find out it simply doesnt exist and its just a puzzle that looks so simple and me being stupid that I don't see what is wrong with my logic. It didn't even felt good once I solved it, just sad.

[Satsujin Jiken]

The valve one is pretty hard, and not for the right reasons in my opinion. It's not hard because of raw logic, it's hard because the player can never be certain how many caps they need, and some of the pipe intersections are also hard to distinguish. They could have used different color or different width pipes if they wanted, but seems like they insisted on this design to further obfuscate the puzzle.

I reckon the puzzle with plain greatest complexity would be the TV channel one. Sure I also had the wrong ideas about that one, but when I got it I actually loved it.

[Satsujin Jiken]

I just remembered the monkey thief puzzle which was also similar experience. After reading between the lines I got that really great "eureka" moment.

[cANe]

I beat it using only one hint and that was on the music puzzle since I'm more or less tone deaf it was either that or spend a long long time brute forcing it.

I would say I probably had the toughest time with the cash register puzzle as I tried to overthink it and spent too much time chasing a way more complex solution than it actually ended up being.

Other than that the "running in circles" puzzle was the second one that gave me the most pain

[filipinowhiteboy]

The valve puzzle was the hardest for you!? That's surprising because it was one of the easiest for me. No, the real headache for me came from the puzzles for that combination key. They're so cryptic, it's ridiculous. The worst was the combination for the Pharmacy room. What kind of logic is it that Alien = four pointed star, Egyptian sarcophagus head = triangle and bee = hexagon? I mean, I get it now, looking at it. But that's still ridiculously cryptic and the hint of the man and woman next to the earth, explains nothing.

[Lumberfoot]

The pharmacy lock was the worst one for me, I just don't see how a pharaoh head is connected to a triangle.

Originally posted by Satsujin Jiken:

I reckon the puzzle with plain greatest complexity would be the TV channel one. Sure I also had the wrong ideas about that one, but when I got it I actually loved it.

I gotta say that it felt pretty good to solve that one.

[AI Hellion9]

Originally posted by Lumberfoot:

The pharmacy lock was the worst one for me, I just don't see how a pharaoh head is connected to a triangle.

Pyramid

[Lumberfoot]

Originally posted by AI Hellion9:

Originally posted by Lumberfoot:

The pharmacy lock was the worst one for me, I just don't see how a pharaoh head is connected to a triangle.

Pyramid

Guess I'm dumb lol

[Fish_Goes_Moo]

Intensive care door.

8 being infinity, just nonsense. The solution (number=number of lines/sides on the shape) works for 8 as well (4 pointed star has 8 sides, 2 for each point), so thought that one was a bit dodgy.

[Toshio]

Heart beating rate. There was 0 tolerance on how accurate you should be. Spent there 15 mins, trying finally get morse.-...-.-. works. Also getting coin was pretty much unintuitive.

[Dreossk]

Had to look up the monkey wheels because I never realized the stories represented handicaps (don't know anyone with such one IRL). Grammar mistakes didn't help, seemed like it was poorly translated from another language. Also the subtitles makes it 5 paragraphs when the actual paper has 4 which makes it a lot easier to associate it to each block.

Had to look up the vinyl/piano notes because I couldn't reproduce the sequence and I'm glad I did because I couldn't even hear 7 notes, only 6...

Had to look up the TV dial because I'm dumb, I'll agree on that one.

Finally had to look up the statue/ring secret passage. I *did* read the note and knew it had to do with the ring finger but I swear I tried interacting with it and it didn't work so I spent like an hour hand a half going back to every single room to look for a ring... I must have interacted wrong.

That's why I usually have a rule in puzzle games to never waste more than 15 minutes on something because it might be simply too obtuse or bugged.

Originally posted by filipinowhiteboy:

Alien = four pointed star, Egyptian sarcophagus head = triangle and bee = hexagon? I mean, I get it now, looking at it. But that's still ridiculously cryptic and the hint of the man and woman next to the earth, explains nothing.

It explains where they "live" for us. Aliens live in the stars, pharaoh live in pyramids, bees live in beehives.

Originally posted by cANe:

I would say I probably had the toughest time with the cash register puzzle as I tried to overthink it and spent too much time chasing a way more complex solution than it actually ended up being.

Hehe, I spent a good 2 minutes on that one before understanding the key and then AFTER solving it I saw the drawing on the wall with the easy clue, LOL.

Originally posted by cANe:

Other than that the "running in circles" puzzle was the second one that gave me the most pain

I admit I would have probably been confused by that one but I just got this game after seeing the first 10 minutes of it on the AGDQ so I remembered seeing the runner do that.

Valves was pretty easy. You start from the end and go back. That way you know how many plugs you need. I agree the lack of map made it harder to know if you actually checked for plugs everywhere.

[Lumberfoot]

Originally posted by Dreossk:

It explains where they "live" for us. Aliens live in the stars, pharaoh live in pyramids, bees live in beehives.

Technically pharaohs don't "live" in pyramids

[Dreossk]

Hence the " "

[Satsujin Jiken]

Originally posted by Dreossk:

It explains where they "live" for us. Aliens live in the stars, pharaoh live in pyramids, bees live in beehives.

I know this is probably what the devs were thinking but it's very poor analogy like it was made by a child that has naive thoughts about reality.

Aliens live anywhere else but Earth by definition. Could be on a moon or some planet. I doubt aliens live on a star because it's just gas burning at extreme temperatures. None of the places they could live in/on are shaped like that cartoon style drawing of a star.

Pyramids are TOMBS for pharaohs, so no, they specifically don't live there and they don't come from there.

Beehives aren't hexagonal, they are round jar-like shapes. Beehives do have hexagonal cells inside them where the queen lays eggs and they are also used for storing honey and pollen. But they are too small for bees to live in.

Yes, I'm fun at parties and yes, I love this game, but this puzzle was still quite illogical.

[Lumberfoot]

Originally posted by Dreossk:

Hence the " "

Well I mean aliens could not live in the stars either so maybe "live" would be the wrong term even with the " " (yes, I am joking)

[Sgttater]

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