No titanium veins on starting planet?

[DVLOS]

Is this a bug? I don’t think I can manually mine enough titanium to research interplanetary travel let alone build production lines. Should I just start over :(

[Riot]

It's not only not a bug - it's deliberately designed that way. It forces you to fly to the other planets in your star system to acquire the necessary silicon & titanium you need, and to manually fly those resources in up until the point where you get interplanetary logistics stations (the tech & components of which require inputs of these resources).

It's a well designed feature of the game.

[TickTockBent]

Originally posted by GWTW-DVLOS:

Originally posted by TickTockBent:

Starting planet never has Titanium/Silicon. You can unlock interplanetary travel without them and manually go gather your first loads of titanium.

No silicone but you can make a longer chain to make it out of stone if I recall.

Correct, you can also get it from stone sometimes as with Titanium but you won't have any veins.

[baerstein]

Stone has a really terrible ratio for silicone. I have 80 smelters just for that, because i hate waste, but it is really terrible. This game need some teaks in the ratio section.

[TickTockBent]

Originally posted by baerstein:

Stone has a really terrible ratio for silicone. I have 80 smelters just for that, because i hate waste, but it is really terrible. This game need some teaks in the ratio section.

Nah it's fine, you will only be using that stone>silicone recipe for a little while until you can go mine silicone from veins.

[phillip_lynx]

Originally posted by baerstein:

Stone has a really terrible ratio for silicone. I have 80 smelters just for that, because i hate waste, but it is really terrible. This game need some teaks in the ratio section.

And to "not waste" stone, make foundations, tons of foundations :)

[baerstein]

Uh, i play with almost infinity ressources. Trust me, its not enough. :D

[Riot]

You will only (try) to make silicon out of stone in your first game. You'll quickly realise how inefficient the process is, and as you play on, you'll also realise how ridiculously much silicon you actually need in the late game.

You have to fly to another planet to get titanium so you might as well do it for silicon as soon as you need it also, because mining stone just ain't gonna cut it. It's worth saving the stone for mass production of glass later in the game as well (although not that necessary).

[yes]

Originally posted by baerstein:

Uh, i play with almost infinity ressources. Trust me, its not enough. :D

on default settings there are several billions of the basic resources. so even if you produce 30 white cubes per second (any quantity of silcone before that is laughtable at such scales) you consume 3.024.000 silicone per hour. lets assume there is "only" 1 billion silicone available in your galaxy (in reality its about 3-4bio on standard), thats still ~330h of silicon supply and thats not even considering the veins utilisation upgrades which will extend that to virtually unlimited.

so youre either never did your math, have no imagination of what billion actually means or just make things up to sell your argument.

source:
https://factoriolab.github.io/list?p=u-matrix*108000&f=1*belt-3_assembler-3&s=dsp*2***belt-3&v=1

[s_linkletter]

Originally posted by yes:

on default settings there are several billions of the basic resources.

I toured my first galaxy personally, and there were indeed billions of everything but coal.

Iron: 5,437,444,556
Copper: 6,668,426,691
Silicon: 3,402,545,475
Titanium: 6,701,149,223
Stone: 7,599,735,376
Coal: 803,501,550

Nowadays i use a mod to tabulate them all, but it was fun the first time.

[baerstein]

Originally posted by yes:

Originally posted by baerstein:

Uh, i play with almost infinity ressources. Trust me, its not enough. :D

on default settings there are several billions of the basic resources.

Thats not the point. Why should i let a ressource lay around and do nothing for me? You can convert Stone into silicon ore and make something usefull with it, but it has a terrible ratio, thats the point.

[phillip_lynx]

Originally posted by baerstein:

Originally posted by yes:

on default settings there are several billions of the basic resources.

Thats not the point. Why should i let a ressource lay around and do nothing for me? You can convert Stone into silicon ore and make something usefull with it, but it has a terrible ratio, thats the point.

Make Foundations out of Stone. Better ratio and much more usefull ;)

[EmDriver]

You'll have to do at least 1 supply run from another planet in your starting system before getting interstellar logistics towers. There is a trick to making this less daunting. You can CRTL click an MK2 box full of titanium on another planet. Fly back to your home planet, and put it all into another MK2 box without ever putting it into your inventory. Just be careful, if you don't have an MK2 box ready to go you'll have to delete it all.

[Icepick UK]

Piggybacking off this thread because I have a similar issue
The only planet in my local system with titanium is a barren desert with no coal, what should I do for power? I also cant use wind or solar as its the furthest out

[EmDriver]

Originally posted by Icepick UK:

Piggybacking off this thread because I have a similar issue
The only planet in my local system with titanium is a barren desert with no coal, what should I do for power? I also cant use wind or solar as its the furthest out

What does the planet statistics say for wind and power %? I don't see any reason why you can use solar panels and windmills. Eventually you'll unlock other ways to transfer energy but no reason not to use wind and solar until then.

[Akira_R]

Originally posted by Icepick UK:

Piggybacking off this thread because I have a similar issue
The only planet in my local system with titanium is a barren desert with no coal, what should I do for power? I also cant use wind or solar as its the furthest out

Interesting, if it really has such terrible wind and solar power % then you will simply have to bring fuel to it, although that really sucks as that just sounds like a really bad RNG :/