Drive Rush Tutorial help please

[a.warringa1]

Hello, I'm stuck at the Drive Rush tutorial. I'm using Modern controls.
The mission:

"Luke's crouching heavy attack is a cancelable normal attack.
Throw out a crouching heavy attack and quickly input forward twice the moment it connects to cancel. Try doing a Drive Rush after you cancel."

I don't exaggerate if I say I now have tried this more than a thousand times. I just doesn't work. If I input the forward->forward really fast after the crouching heavy punch, nothing happens. If I do it a bit slower, Luke does a normal forward dash.

The biggest issue with these tutorials is that it doesn't give you an example, I'm doubting if I'm even doing the correct move. I also can't find any video on Youtube showing how these tutorials should be done unfortunately.

The crouching heavy attack is pressing down + heavy attack button, resulting in Luke moving his fist upwards, is that correct?
So it's Down + Heavy attack, as soon as the hit lands, forward->forward, correct?
If so - any idea why that absolutely doesn't work for me?

[Wafflekone]

No reason it shouldn't work. The crouching HP is the punch you're describing so it just seems like you're not doing it fast enough.

[a.warringa1]

It's so weird. Using a fightstick so I can push the forward-forward really fast. Good to know I'm at least using the correct punch, but I'm stumped why I can't get this working.

[Sneep Snorp]

I feel like the best way to drive rush atleast from my playtime (mostly Ken and zangeif both classic controls) is to once you throw out your move, dont wait immediately do the drive rush motion, if the move doesnt connect, you wont rush ofcourse just move slightly forward since the cancellable wasnt utilized, and if it does the input will be fast enough to trigger the DR. Just dont hesitate at all and do it in one motion regardless

[a.warringa1]

Thanks for the feedback but I feel I still am doing something else wrong. Just tried half an hour in practice mode, doing this nonstop over and over again. I do the forward-forward immediately after the crouching heavy punch. I have the commands on so I see I'm also pressing the correct buttons and direction but it simply does not work.

If this doesn't work -once- with 1.5 hour nonstop trying then I don't think I'll be able to pull this off in a match succesfully either :-/

I checked youtube, reddit, googled.. it seems I'm also the only one in the world who can't pull this one off.

Need to take a break, this is driving me insane :D

[weirdkid5]

The key is to make sure the second "foward" is pressed right when the heavy punch lands, that's how the cancels work. It's the same for special moves. If you fully input the command before the move fully connects, you won't get the cancel properly.

[a.warringa1]

Originally posted by weirdkid5:

The key is to make sure the second "foward" is pressed right when the heavy punch lands, that's how the cancels work. It's the same for special moves. If you fully input the command before the move fully connects, you won't get the cancel properly.

Ah that is good to know, I did it as fast as possible the last 30 minutes, and that was way before the actual hit. But still.. out of all my tries not a single succesfull cancel.. is the timing so strickt that it's sheer impossible to pull off?

[weirdkid5]

Originally posted by a.warringa1:

Originally posted by weirdkid5:

The key is to make sure the second "foward" is pressed right when the heavy punch lands, that's how the cancels work. It's the same for special moves. If you fully input the command before the move fully connects, you won't get the cancel properly.

Ah that is good to know, I did it as fast as possible the last 30 minutes, and that was way before the actual hit. But still.. out of all my tries not a single succesfull cancel.. is the timing so strickt that it's sheer impossible to pull off?

No, it's actually pretty easy. You just need to find the correct window so that your 2nd tap forward is right as the hit lands, or only a few frames after it lands.

[a.warringa1]

Thanks again, I will get some sleep now and try again tomorrow with a fresh mind :)

[Hybris]

Make sure your forward inputs are clean forward inputs. Down forward will not work.

[a.warringa1]

Originally posted by Hybris:

Make sure your forward inputs are clean forward inputs. Down forward will not work.

I went to practice mode and put on the input displays there so make sure I was not pressing down forward, so it must be a timing issue. At work right now so haven't been able to try it again with the tips mentioned above, but meanwhile I also read that it also doesn't work if you press the first Forward too fast after the crouching move, stick must return to neutral for at least 1 frame to register. Maybe that is also something I did wrong yesterday, have to test this in practice mode tonight :)

[Skulker_S]

The timing window isn't huge, if you are new to fighting games, don't worry too much about it, you can skip it for now. All characters have basic combos without it, that are totally fine for a beginner.

You seem to be using a stick, do you mean a proper fight stick? Or the analoge stick on a controller? If you are using a controller I would urge you to try out the Digi pad instead, much easier imo.

[Swansonhart]

Is that the last part of the Drive Rush tutorial in the basics section? If so, you've got to follow with the combos after rushing, but be quick about it.

[a.warringa1]

Originally posted by Skulker_S:

The timing window isn't huge, if you are new to fighting games, don't worry too much about it, you can skip it for now. All characters have basic combos without it, that are totally fine for a beginner.

You seem to be using a stick, do you mean a proper fight stick? Or the analoge stick on a controller? If you are using a controller I would urge you to try out the Digi pad instead, much easier imo.

Yes I'm using a fightstick, Hori rap4. I grew up with fighting games in the arcades (yes I'm old) but it has always been a genre for me where I never really understood how it worked. So this time I wanted to takes things seriously and study the tutorials and combo's but yesterday I really got stuck at doing this, hence my cry for help :D

Just returned from work so I'm going to give it another shot now ;) If I do find out what I was doing wrong I'll post it here.

[a.warringa1]

Originally posted by Swansonhart:

Is that the last part of the Drive Rush tutorial in the basics section? If so, you've got to follow with the combos after rushing, but be quick about it.

I don't think it's the last part of that tutorial - this one only wants me to do a ground attack and then a drive rush. I guess the lesson after this one will be to do a follow up after the rush ;)

[Cat on Mars]

You dash by hitting forward twice. You can dash, right?

The next layer is the drive rush cancel. You do heavy punch then immediately do a dash. If your drive rush isn't coming out, you're LATE. You should glow green and use 3 bars. The window to input this is still pretty large since it's a heavy - about 1/3 a second after the button. It will just feel like you have to mash as fast as possible because you aren't used to the window yet.

Then you do another move from the drive rush, but this isn't in the trial yet. It's the next one (although they have you start with a parry, which is a cheaper way to get drive rushes). The drive rush also takes a little while to happen and allow you to act, so there's another window, called buffer, here. If your normal doesn't come out, you're too EARLY. If it comes out and Luke blocks it, you were late. This, even with the buffer, is a little strict.

And I just tried the trial specifically. It's a standing heavy punch. Don't do crouches, make sure you return to neutral before each forward input or the dash won't be a dash.