The Correct Way to Play Street Fighter

[Maverick]

For those of you old enough to remember, remember how you played some iteration of SFII, whether Turbo or Super, and didn’t give a crap about frame data or what normal or special cancelled into what? Remember how fun the game was because of that??

Yeah, you can make the game fun again for you and for all. Just stop giving a f*** as much. Stop treating the game like there’s a $10,000 dollar reward at the end of each match. Calm down, relax, take things into perspective, and just play the game!

When you study the game like your whole life and self-worth depends on it, you ruin the game not only for yourself in the long term, but for every poor bastard that has the misfortune of encountering you. Being the best you can be at a freaking video game isn’t always a good thing.

Be a kid again! There’s more important skills in life to try to excel at than a fighting game!

[Peddie]

引用自 Wormerine：

The only suggestion I can make, is that if you can find a group of like minded people you can create a private lobby and have a good, oldfashioned fun unburdened by optimisation and game knowledge. Online, however, you are likely to meet people who will play a competitive game... competitively.

And not even that is without risk because there is always a chance one of those friends turns out they had more of a knack for fighting games than they first imagined and end up standing head and shoulders above the other group members. Do you then eject said friend from the group or decide it might finally be time to step up and do a little homework?

[Wormerine]

引用自 Peddie：

Do you then eject said friend from the group or decide it might finally be time to step up and do a little homework?

That's why I said "like minded people", not friends :-P. No friendship is worth breaking over someone over-performing in a computer game. A mutually beneficial acquaintance though - that's a fair game when it's not so mutually beneficial anymore.

[Peddie]

Suppose that's fair. But then you're banking on not getting any serious emotional attachment to them.

At the end of the day it's probably just healthier to accept losing as a natural part of the game and that choosing to not engage with all of the game's systems and information comes at a cost of plateauing much earlier than someone who does care to learn does.

It's absolutely valid to not want to learn the depths of the game, or even uh, all of the universal mechanics, but it's not fair on everyone else to expect them to do the same.

[Lysamus]

I wanted to expand a bit on this concept.

引用自 Peddie：

It's absolutely valid to not want to learn the depths of the game, or even uh, all of the universal mechanics, but it's not fair on everyone else to expect them to do the same.

You can still exist in the fighting game space playing "the old way" of learning via brute force trial and error, and even have a nicer time doing it today then you would have back then. All it will cost you is your rank.

Modern match-making isn't perfect, but it's leagues better then playing whichever rando sauntered up to your cab that day. If you do not wish to study the game, you will likely find yourself over time in matches with other players of a similar mindset.

Rank is another modernity you can choose to forgo in pursuit of your goal OP.

[X]

I have a hard time believing you've been around for any period of time. Because if you had you would know that SF has always been ultra competitive and you wouldn't be soft as baby ♥♥♥♥.
Sounds like you're describing when you and a few freinds discovered SF and were having fun playing while learning, which of course is awesome.
But had you actually been rolling up quarters on machines, you'd understand it was always survival of the fittest. Win, you stay, lose, you line up another quarter and wait 30 minutes for another opportunity.

[Maverick]

引用自 X：

I have a hard time believing you've been around for any period of time. Because if you had you would know that SF has always been ultra competitive and you wouldn't be soft as baby ♥♥♥♥.
Sounds like you're describing when you and a few freinds discovered SF and were having fun playing while learning, which of course is awesome.
But had you actually been rolling up quarters on machines, you'd understand it was always survival of the fittest. Win, you stay, lose, you line up another quarter and wait 30 minutes for another opportunity.

Sit down kid, and let me teach you a little thing about life. Just because you grew up in a bubble and had an arcade a few blocks from your house, and spent all of your free time and your parents quarters there, chuggin down sodas and bags of chips and gaining weight until you could no longer see your johnson when you went to pee, there was a whole other bright world taking place outside of that dimly lit arcade.

The vast majority of Street Fighter players, before you could play online, played on console. We went to each other's houses, we played against our siblings, friends, and our friends' siblings. But here's a shocker for you.... even though we all loved Street Fighter and enjoyed playing it, we eventually put the controller down and did other things. We went outside, got some sun on our faces, played sports, went on dates with girls, applied ourselves at school, and tried other things that life had to offer. Fighting games didn't consume our entire lives. Just because that was your sad life, it doesn't mean everyone lived that way.

Now go ahead... report me and get me banned, Mr. Tough Guy. Let's see who's soft as baby ♥♥♥♥.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Just mash buttons

the real true way to play

[NeZQuick]

i do kinda sorta miss those days of just mashing and having fun with that, beating just the arcade mode on easiest difficulty, now im at this weird point of knowing how little i actually know xD

but thats why i have one main that i try my best with and then just mess around with other characters in arcade

[Sixtyfivekills]

Street Fighter was always a learning game for me, starting without a single fracture of knowledge on how the game works and practicing specials and supers, it wasn't a small feat and it took me quite a lot of time.


Seeing every characters ending in arcade mode, learning what moves everyone has, picking a favorite, replicating moves IRL (if you say you never did it you're a liar), this was my experience with Street Fighter until 5 came out, and sort of 4.


Online is a whole other can of worms, it wasn't anymore about the matchup, it was about the other player and their playstyle. Characters I once loved became characters I dreaded seeing. Realizing how terrible I am at a game that I thought I got the hang of after hours of playing, having to adapt and carry the knowledge from one game to another, dropping bad habits, nothing here is purely casual.



What I'm trying to say is that learning and getting good is part of the fun. Sure I enjoyed smashing my head against a Dualshock 2 with my brother in Dramatic Battles in Alpha 3, but I knew it wasn't something I could go back to a lot.

[Cokonaut]

Calm down, boy. Listen to yourself for a second here. Who are you here to say what's the "correct way" of playing and what's "fun" for this game? You can say that for no one but yourself only. Not even the game developers. You can do whatever you can do within the game as long as you're not modifying/cheating the game, or abusing a bug/loophole. You want everyone to play the way you want, so you can have fun. That doesn't make the game fun or not.

For me, What's fun about fighting other players online is that you can never expect what kind of players you run into and what they'll do.

What everyone can do is don't get too hung up on losing or winning, get on wired connection (wifi sucks sometimes), don't rage quit in ranks (although I don't care, just block), and try not to play ranked with "M"(although I always still rematch, you learn to deal with it). Oh yeah, and don't use cheats, although I'll never bother to investigate nor tell for sure, so it doesn't matter.

[NeZQuick]

引用自 Sixtyfivekills：

replicating moves IRL (if you say you never did it you're a liar)

I'm guilty of doing that weird akuma fighting pose flex thing (yknow the one where he looks like hes about to pop ALL his veins at once) - it actually helped me relax in a weird way

[Sixtyfivekills]

引用自 NeZQuick：

引用自 Sixtyfivekills：

replicating moves IRL (if you say you never did it you're a liar)

I'm guilty of doing that weird akuma fighting pose flex thing (yknow the one where he looks like hes about to pop ALL his veins at once) - it actually helped me relax in a weird way

I'm guilty of it too, I just don't tense up as hard to the point of shaking lmao

[Peddie]

I feel that the advent of good online play has been an eye opening experience for a lot of 90s kids to realise just how bad they truly were at fighting games once they could readily go against players who actually knew their stuff. Previously if you wanted to realise how inexperienced you were you had to go on holiday to NYC or Japan and try your hand in the arcades there. Speaking of which...


Hey OP~
You've previously claimed to have played in Japanese arcades "with the boys" while there as an exchange student. Those guys were even more merciless because they have a whole dollar on the line, you lose a half dozen times and that's a whole lunch gone. Or were you so flush with cash that you could just afford to walk away from the cab if someone picked a character you didn't like?

[NeZQuick]

引用自 Sixtyfivekills：

引用自 NeZQuick：

I'm guilty of doing that weird akuma fighting pose flex thing (yknow the one where he looks like hes about to pop ALL his veins at once) - it actually helped me relax in a weird way

I'm guilty of it too, I just don't tense up as hard to the point of shaking lmao

oh I went full ham, made me feel lightheaded

[Maverick]

引用自 Peddie：

Hey OP~
You've previously claimed to have played in Japanese arcades "with the boys" while there as an exchange student. Those guys were even more merciless because they have a whole dollar on the line, you lose a half dozen times and that's a whole lunch gone. Or were you so flush with cash that you could just afford to walk away from the cab if someone picked a character you didn't like?

I don't know what world you came from where there was an FGC presence in every arcade. When I was in Japan, I went to an arcade like 2 or 3 times and there was no group of competitive sweats there crowded around the SF machines. There were just normal people hanging out and playing games for fun.

Same as here in the United States. I grew up in the suburbs and didn't have an arcade anywhere near my house or town. The only access I had was at bowling alleys and when my family/friends and I would go down the shore and I would go to the boardwalk arcades. Occasionally you would see like 3 or 4 older kids/adults playing competitively and kicking ass, but they were not common. Most people in arcades were just regular people. This highly competitive FGC arcade scene you keep speaking of was a very tiny niche crowd during the pre-online days. Maybe your local arcade was different and that's all you grew up knowing, so naturally, you think all arcades are like that.