Fighting Better Players and losing confidence (Platinum 1)

[Izzymiroquai1]

How can I keep trying without giving up too easily against better players than myself?

[melon]

Originally posted by Izzymiroquai1:

How can I keep trying without giving up too easily against better players than myself?

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[76561199744282392]

just use cheats like a normal person

[Peddie]

You can only improve by playing against folks better than you. You learn nothing by fighting folks worse than you. Folks of the same skill test what you already know. So honestly, see it as a learning opportunity, see what they're doing, and afterwards, see the replay to see what mistakes you made. And eventually you'll be on an equal footing to them.

[TheG]

Ive been playing a bunch of masters players in bh and its my impression that most of them know gimmicks tailored to your character that they learned over 1000 fights.

You have to learn the responses to them or you will get clowned. these are things they never do against higher players because better players know what to do.

Reason i say this is there are some plat and diamonds using gimmicks that are actually harder than masters.

[Selphea]

There's a very wide spectrum of player skill levels.

Quite honestly if the other player is much better than you, to the point where you don't even know what to do then you should stop. Same with if the other player is much worse. The best learning is when both players are around the same level or one is slightly better.

There's resources like frame data and training mode recordings. If you're losing to something and don't know how to handle it then you need to check the frame data, make recordings and figure out how to deal with them at your own pace.

So make sure you know why you're losing, and that will point you to where to improve. If you lose and don't know why ofc it's demoralizing.

[loaf]

If you can find someone of a higher skill level than you who is willing to basically be your training dummy, that helps. They can let you know what to improve, what not to focus on, etc. I know that requires human interaction, but the best way to learn is together. Who knew, right?

[Lysamus]

Scale down your expectations when playing against someone better. Maybe winning the match is impossible, but perhaps you can try to figure out what they're doing that's beating you and start finding answers to it.

Easy example - Do you feel like it's never your turn to push buttons? Instead of worrying about winning the match, spend your time with them trying to find where you can interrupt their pressure with a quick button like a jab or a reversal like a dragon punch.

If you're wrong and they blow you up, it's no biggie as you weren't worrying about winning the match anyway. If you find a gap though, now you know at least one gap in that player's offense, and in that character's pressure string. You can use that knowledge to play better against that player now and you'll be stronger against future players using that same character later.

Can't figure out what they're doing that's beating you in the moment? Go back to your replays and watch them. Look for patterns in your play that your opponent might be exploiting (Do you never block low? Do you never block high when your opponent is in the air? Do you never contest their jump with an anti-air? Do you never tech throws? etc). You can commit to improving in those areas in future games.

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In summary, set smaller goals outside of winning the match that will help you play better in future games. You'll feel good when you accomplish those goals, even if you can't win the match.

[FAT WANZER]

do you have trouble dealing with certain character? there's tons of video detailing on how to deal with em(don't forget to add season 2 to the search bar).
also what Lysamus said replay sometimes you got a habit that is bad like a ken i met today if he whiff jab he will cr.mk multiple times,i just walk forward stop a bit then use move that crush crouching attack for punish.

[June Moone]

You have to understand what is making you lose the most. Are you getting countered on everything you do? Or are you playing too defensive and the opponent is opening you up. I know at lower ranks players tend to be uber aggressive with jumping and burning themselves out. So all you need is a proper anti-air and time. They can't do much. When you get higher ranks, you tend to have players who sit back to see if you open yourself up with a move that is minus in frames. They then implement their BnB combo that is usually a corner carry where they make you guess.

What I would suggest is to have pocket combos that you know my muscle memory for a level 1 setup and a level 3 setup. Then play against the CPU at like level 7 or 8 and keep playing until those combos come with ease. The CPU input reads so it can mimic some of the players your run into online since a lot of people are cheating.

[Lysamus]

A post script on the idea of "confidence" in fighting games.

I recommend, as best you can, letting go of your ego when it comes to fighting games. It's very likely you will never be "good" at these games. I don't say this to disparage your skill or potential, but rather to free you from a self imposed standard. 99% of people who play these fighting games will never be good at them.

For example, the gap between most people who play SF6 and, say, the top 6 in the Capcom Cup/Evo/ComboBreaker, is huge. I'm certainly trash compared to those players, and I suspect most everyone else on this message board would feel the same.

Allow yourself permission to be "bad," especially given that you might be just starting out. People who've played longer and have committed more of themselves to this hobby are going to be better than you, and that's okay.

Reframe your lack of confidence as a statement of growth. You're not a bad player. You're learning how to play. Fortunately, while matches may have time limits, there is no time limit on the learning process.

[OyajiBR☕]

Try arcade mode on hard without using continues, then try on hardest mode. If you beat hardest mode you'll beat most online players.

[Doc Holiday]

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

Try arcade mode on hard without using continues, then try on hardest mode. If you beat hardest mode you'll beat most online players.

Really? Is it working for you?

[OyajiBR☕]

Originally posted by Doc Holiday:

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

Try arcade mode on hard without using continues, then try on hardest mode. If you beat hardest mode you'll beat most online players.

Really? Is it working for you?

I lose less online after doing some hard and hardest arcades. But I still don't have a main.

[FromChaosTheory]

Idk what to tell you. Your playing a video game and challenging other players. Is everyone you beat supposed to give up the game and never play again? Competitions would be really boring if everyone just stopped playing because there are other better players. There is always someone better. In anything and everything. If you like the game just play it and enjoy it even when you lose. Work on whats causing you to lose and play the game.

[Scrub]

man i could have made the same thread, the battle hub has been whipping me hard lately, humbling