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SlyCoop 2023 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:19
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Calling it The "Full Game" When its not ( Lets be real )
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D
最后由 SlyCoop 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:41
引用自 Lysamus:
Hello, and welcome to "The Life-Cycle of Fighting Games." I'm your host, Mr. Scrub. You might remember me from titles such as "Nobody Spars in Heels" and "You Weren't Lagging. You're Just Misunderstood."

Join me as we walk together through the life cycle of a fighting game. I've broken these up into 3 bite sized segments for your viewing convenience and because I'm pretty sure this check is going to bounce.

Early Life: Peak of the game's popularity. Companies will charge the most now since this is their sales prime time and, contrary to popular belief, profit is the primary incentive for game development. Buy in now if you want to enjoy that honeymoon period where nobody knows what they're doing.

Mid Life: Servers are largely quiet but occasionally enjoy spikes of activity with the addition of characters designed to entice new comers and bring back franchise fans sitting on the sidelines. Buy in now if your pocket main made it into the roster and you don't mind an endless stream of the same DLC characters in your online matches.

Late Life: Only a small, dedicated community remains. Companies will steeply discount whats left to dredge up the last few hold-outs before calling a quits on active development. Buy in now if you're willing to spend virtual teeth and blood in place of physical cash as the people who stuck around are pretty good at the game by this point.

Hopefully, this informative guide will help you, the conscientious consumer, determine when best to buy in to meet your needs, as well as illustrate how video game developers typically aren't withholding content just to ruin your good vibes (They rely on gacha mechanics for that after all! No need for redundancy).
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SlyCoop 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 12:22 
引用自 VenturousGamer
引用自 SlyCoop
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D

It's actually disheartening to see Street Fighter still doing this but more expensively.

I'm still stoked to play this but it's meaningless to overcharge for content that should already exist in the final product. But since this isn't truly final, as its predecessors, it's going to take longer to fully justify exchanging a certain amount of currency. Once more, I'll wait until everything is actually completed so I don't feel cheated.

Someone here has a brain and doesnt look at what games I play and throw pointless comments. Thank you for seeing my point.
SlyCoop 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 12:24 
引用自 Lysamus
Hello, and welcome to "The Life-Cycle of Fighting Games." I'm your host, Mr. Scrub. You might remember me from titles such as "Nobody Spars in Heels" and "You Weren't Lagging. You're Just Misunderstood."

Join me as we walk together through the life cycle of a fighting game. I've broken these up into 3 bite sized segments for your viewing convenience and because I'm pretty sure this check is going to bounce.

Early Life: Peak of the game's popularity. Companies will charge the most now since this is their sales prime time and, contrary to popular belief, profit is the primary incentive for game development. Buy in now if you want to enjoy that honeymoon period where nobody knows what they're doing.

Mid Life: Servers are largely quiet but occasionally enjoy spikes of activity with the addition of characters designed to entice new comers and bring back franchise fans sitting on the sidelines. Buy in now if your pocket main made it into the roster and you don't mind an endless stream of the same DLC characters in your online matches.

Late Life: Only a small, dedicated community remains. Companies will steeply discount whats left to dredge up the last few hold-outs before calling a quits on active development. Buy in now if you're willing to spend virtual teeth and blood in place of physical cash as the people who stuck around are pretty good at the game by this point.

Hopefully, this informative guide will help you, the conscientious consumer, determine when best to buy in to meet your needs, as well as illustrate how video game developers typically aren't withholding content just to ruin your good vibes (They rely on gacha mechanics for that after all! No need for redundancy).

Love this repsonse. Its spot on. And shows how the barrier for entry is greater than it would otherwise appear.
最后由 SlyCoop 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 12:27
ValSkyScrouge 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 FleshyBB
My man's playing Lost Ark at the time of posting and complaining about SF6 pricing.
AHAHAHAHAH
Akasha 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 3:34 
引用自 SlyCoop
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D

Tell me you've never heard of Redfall without telling me.
Reddo 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 5:03 
The 32 in-game players of that complete at launch fighting game called DNF Duel sends you regards.
VenturousGamer 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 12:59 
引用自 SlyCoop
引用自 VenturousGamer

It's actually disheartening to see Street Fighter still doing this but more expensively.

I'm still stoked to play this but it's meaningless to overcharge for content that should already exist in the final product. But since this isn't truly final, as its predecessors, it's going to take longer to fully justify exchanging a certain amount of currency. Once more, I'll wait until everything is actually completed so I don't feel cheated.

Someone here has a brain and doesnt look at what games I play and throw pointless comments. Thank you for seeing my point.

You're welcome. The irony is that this problem would've justified making SF6 a F2P game.

Because then they could update the content freely without charging anybody.

Except unless they want "Fight Money" or other extensive "upgrades".
Archangel 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 2:24 
引用自 SlyCoop
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D


Of course they need money! That's how they keep the franchise going!

Welcome to 2023 where people want to pay $20 for a game and expect all the content the developers will spent thousands of hours working on to be given to the them for free.

Back in the day, you had to buy the whole game at full price again whenever it got updated, patched etc.

Sidenote: It was shared in a recent SF6 interview that it takes a lot of time to plan out characters. Creating, rendering, moveset, animation and balance take a very long time. So don't think that Capcom have like 50 characters down and are only giving us 18 for now.

You're like every other dude spitting trash with that "complete edition" thing. Ok, SFV is practically complete now, what's stopping you from buying it now? Hell, it even goes on sale so often.

You are one of those greedy consumer types. You want as much as possible for as less as possible. How do you want base game at a lower price and then expect to get all the DLC for the next 6-7 years for free???

Man, I would've lashed out so hard if I wasn't so civil as I am. Continue playing your Lost Ark.
最后由 Archangel 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 2:31
SlyCoop 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 7:49 
引用自 TeraChad
引用自 SlyCoop
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D


Of course they need money! That's how they keep the franchise going!

Welcome to 2023 where people want to pay $20 for a game and expect all the content the developers will spent thousands of hours working on to be given to the them for free.

Back in the day, you had to buy the whole game at full price again whenever it got updated, patched etc.

Sidenote: It was shared in a recent SF6 interview that it takes a lot of time to plan out characters. Creating, rendering, moveset, animation and balance take a very long time. So don't think that Capcom have like 50 characters down and are only giving us 18 for now.

You're like every other dude spitting trash with that "complete edition" thing. Ok, SFV is practically complete now, what's stopping you from buying it now? Hell, it even goes on sale so often.

You are one of those greedy consumer types. You want as much as possible for as less as possible. How do you want base game at a lower price and then expect to get all the DLC for the next 6-7 years for free???

Man, I would've lashed out so hard if I wasn't so civil as I am. Continue playing your Lost Ark.

Ask yourself this.

If they want to make season passes every year for next 6-7 years that cost $30-$40 each time. Then theres no good reason for the base game to be full price, Because alot of players are allready paying the $200 the game costs when all the content is out anyway by then.

Capcom dont need that game to be full price because they make so much from the season content alone.

So being greedy in your sense is me wanting to pay $250 for all the content excluding base game Vs spending $300+ dollars for it. I'd rather pay the 250 and call it a day. The total cost is bad enough without the base game too.

But please do continue to take the fighting game andy "he's insulting my fighting game"
approach "my feelings are hurt" "Best insult Him with a game he plays" comment

Could go buy a PS5 instead of 7 years of SF6 content. <---- thats what I'm getting at.
最后由 SlyCoop 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 8:41
SlyCoop 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 8:12 
引用自 keihtg
What would you think if they just released the base game and then NEVER made any more content for it?

Or what if instead of releasing next month, they pushed the release back to 5 years from now and released an edition that had 5 seasons of would-be DLC bundled into it for $60?

You answered your own question. Then I'd just buy it for $60. I dont obsess over games releasing later than sooner

If they made a statement saying that theres was no plans for any DLC. Then I'd wait for a sale. So I'd buy it $35 -$45 mark. Makes it similar to Soul Caliburs cast. So fair cast of fighters for a fair price.

I'm not Entitled to expect DLC in fighting games I buy. If thats what your getting at.
最后由 SlyCoop 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 8:39
VenturousGamer 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 10:40 
引用自 keihtg
What would you think if they just released the base game and then NEVER made any more content for it?

Or what if instead of releasing next month, they pushed the release back to 5 years from now and released an edition that had 5 seasons of would-be DLC bundled into it for $60?

They should release the game now with everything intact.

If you asked this years ago, it would've made more sense.
SasukeAlvarez 2023 年 5 月 26 日 下午 12:38 
"cOnTeNt ShOuLd AlReAdY bE In GaMe" are you that stupid still in 2023? You want content included in a game that hasn't even begun development yet? Interesting. None of the 4 DLC characters have even begun development its not like their hiding them behind a paywall for the sake of doing a pay wall. You get EVERYTHING in in the game that's done nothing is being excluded. Akuma doesn't even release until Spring 2024 (a year after launch) you think their keeping one of the most popular characters for a year just for the hell of it? Akuma hasn't even started being created.

This dude has too just be trolling & complaining for the sake of complaining because every fighting game since 2009 has added fighters later on to keep the game going. You're the ultimate casual who will play offline for a few hours then never touch. Fighting games need DLC content to keep the player base. None of these characters added down the road were created upon launch. MK11, SF5, and Tekken 7 all just did extra seasons of content due to Covid. They all added characters due to their new game being pushed back meaning NONE of that content had been created yet. Also for you casuals it doesn't effect your experience one bit its not like you're going to play online & try to get good at the game.

Also you're complaining about buying all the content which we know you never will. You're a filthy casual you're not going to buy a character you don't like. In your theory Monster Hunter World shouldn't have ever been released or bought because they released an expansion years later that was equal in size to the original game. We should just get everything for free right? I bet Capcom was holding Icebourne for years just to charge you when it could have been released in the base game. Are you that stupid?
最后由 SasukeAlvarez 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 26 日 下午 12:40
VenturousGamer 2023 年 5 月 26 日 下午 7:44 
引用自 SasukeAlvarez
"cOnTeNt ShOuLd AlReAdY bE In GaMe" are you that stupid still in 2023? You want content included in a game that hasn't even begun development yet? Interesting. None of the 4 DLC characters have even begun development its not like their hiding them behind a paywall for the sake of doing a pay wall. You get EVERYTHING in in the game that's done nothing is being excluded. Akuma doesn't even release until Spring 2024 (a year after launch) you think their keeping one of the most popular characters for a year just for the hell of it? Akuma hasn't even started being created.

Yes, I'm expecting content that should've already been made, within the span of the time they started development of its original assets, to be in the final product. It's not stupid to request or demand this because it's overplayed and actually stupid to purposely remove free content from the game for financial exploitation. We don't need another situation like Marvel vs. Cacpom with DLC content on the physical release.

Also, we're not getting much for more aside colors and minimum alterations. Overpaying up to $70-$100 for the content that hasn't either been developed, or finalized, shouldn't be advertised because it's deceitful and risky. There's no reason to defend this because you're actively encouraging them to continue this tactic. We should be able to have everything already in the game to be unlocked later.

引用自 SasukeAlvarez
This dude has too just be trolling & complaining for the sake of complaining because every fighting game since 2009 has added fighters later on to keep the game going. You're the ultimate casual who will play offline for a few hours then never touch. Fighting games need DLC content to keep the player base. None of these characters added down the road were created upon launch. MK11, SF5, and Tekken 7 all just did extra seasons of content due to Covid. They all added characters due to their new game being pushed back meaning NONE of that content had been created yet. Also for you casuals it doesn't effect your experience one bit its not like you're going to play online & try to get good at the game.

Again, there's no reason to defend this because it's overplayed and stupid. Fighting games have existed longer without repeatedly exploiting DLC and still remain relevant to play. You're thinking about what's become of the gaming industry years after they've found a new method to wrongfully take advantage of their customers and prolong development. Regardless what happens in the real world, there's no reason to have multiple versions of one game, with more or lesser content, with an overly expensive price tag.

引用自 SasukeAlvarez
Also you're complaining about buying all the content which we know you never will. You're a filthy casual you're not going to buy a character you don't like. In your theory Monster Hunter World shouldn't have ever been released or bought because they released an expansion years later that was equal in size to the original game. We should just get everything for free right? I bet Capcom was holding Icebourne for years just to charge you when it could have been released in the base game. Are you that stupid?

Now it's time to stop being ignorant.

Firstly, complaining about this nonstop occurrence doesn't make anybody a "filthy casual". It actually meant they're wisest to the manipulations and are only making it clear that it's happened enough and needs to stop. We don't want to overpay for an unfinished product, and constantly be lied to, just because certain developers and publishers are unapologetic about their greed.

Secondly, even if they're successful, any product such as Monster Hunter aren't exempt from this because it's clear some of the content doesn't need to be divided. Some content should just remain secretive to unlock because they're either minor, expendable, or too contextual to the whole experience. It's meaningless and should be corrected by assuring everything is completed and released on launch.

Otherwise they'll just continue dividing their audiences.

I'd rather have a full game with everything intact than an expensive unfinished one.
Killance 2023 年 5 月 26 日 下午 9:18 
Full story: check

Side stories: check

Online play(casual/ranked): check

Over 10 characters on launch: check


Ya it's a full game bud.
samsaralotus 2023 年 5 月 27 日 上午 1:08 
引用自 SlyCoop
Dunno how they make the claim of it being the "full game" when none of the editions on the storepage are actually the full game ( Good bit of slap you on the a$$ false advertising there ) since theres going to be multiple years in which they sell the other 50% of the fighter cast.

Also : £90 for half of the fighters + 4 characters with costumes and colours = YYYIKES.

GLAD I'M NOT BUYING INTO THIS. Its clearly going to squeeze as much money as they can for next 5-7 seasons.

I'll wait for SF7 to come out when they make a "complete edition" woops guess thats too much of a ask these days since SF5 didn't bother with that one my bad.

Enjoy :D
how DLC make a game not full????
Thine Very Own, Nemesis~ 2023 年 5 月 27 日 上午 3:29 
This has been my issue with Fighting games and the nature of season passes for YEARS
Frankly speaking if you do buy a season pass that should cover ALL future dlc in a game
and the fact that it doesn't makes the concept really dumb it's a gamble over quality
instead of mutual respect over supporting the game
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