Noob getting into Street Fighter for the first time.

[GhostWarrior13]

So I am brand new to fighting games. I mostly played shooters and single player RPGs my whole life. Going from that to this type of game is obviously a massive shock to the brain as no other games that I played before really have these complicated inputs that you are required to memorise plus being able to predict your opponent's next move and reacting quickly enough is also very hard for me. Modern controls does help me a little bit though.

Now I am well aware of what I should expect here, I will most likely win 1 match for every 20 I lose, probably even more losses than that. Which really does make me feel a bit discouraged but I understand it's how this genre works and that new players will have to endure and learn if they have any hopes of getting somewhere. I guess my question is, how exactly do I stay positive when literally everyone destroys me all the time.

I am only focusing on 1 character at the moment, which is Cammy. I think she is cool and I like her fighting style. So far the pure fantasy of me becoming a good Cammy player is the only thing keeping me motivated. Don't get me wrong I do enjoy the game, it is extremely fun but constant losing and the feeling of hopelessness does take it's toll after a while.

How do you manage to keep pushing through the constant struggle? Maybe I'm just a moron but I get discouraged fairly easy with these games. Which is something I need to stop ASAP.

[BlueFunGuy]

Another user had some positive vibes to give the other day. I support this message https://steamcommunity.com/app/1364780/discussions/0/3815159202306818741/

[Happy Birthday!]

As a suggestion, what keeps me going is trying the other characters and watching videos of REALLY good players play those characters. Not combo run downs or guide, but just them playing matches. If I see them do something cool, I'll be motivated to play the character and find some reason to practice or fight other people.

For instance, I started playing Marisa, then found out I enjoyed playing the polar opposite, JP because I faced someone in a Casual match using JP.
Then I went and tried Jamie and started learning how Drive Rush cancel works in combos.
After that, I tested out Manon to learn about her moveset.
Now I'm learning how to properly zone and deal with spacing on Dalsim.

It's all about just finding your own reason to play, not just "to get better."
My reason is to focus on a single aspect of the game that's accentuated by playing a certain character, and learning from it by doing it.

[BlueFunGuy]

Also be flexible. Its easy to get into bad habits early on. Combo videos are cool but the're not always the best ways to land damage. Some are very situational and unreliable. i remember learning Guilty Gear Midnight Carnival combos that were essentially useless in a real fight.

Like the other user said, watch what the pros do. It gives you a sort model to work and build off of. Also take a break. You can only learn so much in a session. Give your brain some time to digest the information. Then come back. Like the next day or much later.

[Döktor Jönes]

Messaggio originale di GhostWarrior13:

How do you manage to keep pushing through the constant struggle? Maybe I'm just a moron but I get discouraged fairly easy with these games. Which is something I need to stop ASAP.

Spite.

Literally out of spite.

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate the FGC and I want to get to a point where I am above average skill level and can tell these incestuous bootlickers, on a well founded basis, how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moronic they are for liking this stupid genre.

Works for me,

[Grandson]

I still get discouraged for time to time when i get my ass completely handed to me, but i manage to keeping pushing through the constant struggle by not focusing on winning or losing but the little things like whiff punishing, not dropping my combo and teching grabs. Which would slowly work on you getting better as a player. The most important thing is not to give up because one day it will click, and you'll SLOWLY over TIME will find way to deal with the pressure your opponent puts on you.

I also see too many people practice against the dummies when they are stationary and complete mess up the input in a real match, if you can please after you get the inputs down in practice see if you can get them off when fighting a CPU you'll be much more confident in a real game.

[Terribad]

Might seem counter-intuitive, but: play ranked. I'm a beginner myself and there's just no point in me trying to do anything in the battlehub right now. Everyone in there is vastly better than me. In the ranked ladder, I'm matched up against people mostly around my level and most fights feel winnable even if I didn't.

Also a tip I've seen elsewhere: set yourself goals in a match that don't rely on winning. "I'm gonna try and tech three throws" "I wanna counter-drive this guy more times than he lands them" "I'm gonna try and get this guy into the corner and keep him there at at least once" etc. That way, even if you don't win you still accomplished something.

[Lysamus]

Set small goals.

Find an area where you could improve. Maybe your blocking needs work. Maybe your specials don't come out as often as you'd like. Maybe you aren't stuffing jump-ins very well. Maybe you can never get your 4 drinks in with Jamie.

Set a small, specific goal around that area. "I will block/parry 1 cross-up." "I will anti-air one jump in." Commit some of your mental stack towards achieving that goal, and measure your success by whether or not you achieved your goal, regardless of the outcome of the match.

Once you achieved your goal, set another. Make it harder if you feel you're ready. Scale back if you're struggling. Ask for help here if you scaled back as far as you can and are still struggling.

This approach yields double benefit. It will ward against bad vibes from losses and it will help you to become a better player, naturally earning more wins as you go.

[Cat on Mars]

Each and every little factoid you learn will be useless in isolation. You may know how a move works, but then you also have to use the move in real matches to get a feel for when it works and why it's psychologically effective.

The only thing that matters is you spend time in the game having fun. The factoids will pile up and the soft skills that follow them are the fundamentals everybody talks about.

They just spent hella time in game because they like to.

[GhostWarrior13]

Messaggio originale di Terribad:

Might seem counter-intuitive, but: play ranked. I'm a beginner myself and there's just no point in me trying to do anything in the battlehub right now. Everyone in there is vastly better than me. In the ranked ladder, I'm matched up against people mostly around my level and most fights feel winnable even if I didn't.

Also a tip I've seen elsewhere: set yourself goals in a match that don't rely on winning. "I'm gonna try and tech three throws" "I wanna counter-drive this guy more times than he lands them" "I'm gonna try and get this guy into the corner and keep him there at at least once" etc. That way, even if you don't win you still accomplished something.

I am actually playing ranked more than anything else. I find the challenge to be more fair as I am playing against people of mostly similar skill (still getting my ass kicked though). I believe casual matches puts you against anyone regardless of skill as long as they have a decent connection.

I also do like the idea you mentioned of setting myself small goals during matches, it's actually quite genius Lol, it seems like that will help me focus on the execution of what I've learnt instead of only caring about winning. Thanks for the advice !

[Platinum Conquest]

Being a bit demoralised after a string of losses natural. We've all been there. Personally, what I'd suggest is to get off of ranked for a bit.

One thing I'd suggest is to go into the battle hub and just have some friendly cabinet matches. You can experiment in this environment as there's no real pressure, due to there being no points on the line. You may even find some chill people there.

If you have any friends that own the game you can set up private lobbies and just play around there. It's a lot harder to get stressed out in friendly matches with people you know.

The new Extreme Battle modes can also be nice stress relievers. You're still kind of getting experience with the game as all the mechanics are still in play, but the random/gimmicky elements take some of the responsibility away from both players. Besides, it can also create moments of lighthearted hilarity.

Sometimes even just a straight up break is fine to take. Don't feel like you have to push yourself all the time. A break is just what's needed at times. I've definitely felt more enthusiastic about jumping back into a game after a break.

[Supa Bishi Bashi]

One of the best ways to improve is to watch your replay losses and honestly ask yourself what killed you. Was it that you missed critical anti airs? Couldn't react to DI? Couldn't find a way in and kept getting boxed out? Even if the answer is "all of these are my problem", at least you can understand OK I suck at anti airs I can lab that out. now you have a purpose in training mode.

If you play CPU lvl 7 in training mode for 20 hours, you will improve. 100 hours and you can be feared. You just have to understand how to train, and 90% of that understanding is recognizing what kills you. If you know what kills you, you can examine that and find ways around it.

And lastly, focus on improving one thing at a time. Right now I'm working on reacting to DI because I feel confident enough in the other aspects of my game. Pick one thing, make it muscle memory, move onto the next thing.

You'll get there.

[SaintTrina]

switch to classic

[Higon]

Humans usually do not learn well when they are stressed. And you can get better one at a time.

I think, imitating other players is THE BEST WAY to get better quick. Search replays with "Cammy"/"Modern" in CFN. Watch some of them. And write down a few cool moves on a sheet of paper. Then go Training Mode and copy them. You may also search footages on YouTube.

Losing 20 times straight is fine. It's really good to lose in this game. But you should never forget the matches you just had were gold mines for your growth. Don't quit the game right after that. Go watch replays of your matches and check why you lost. Write down opponent moves you couldn't handle. Go Training mode. Also, you can search opponent's matches and find his matches where he lost to good Cammy players. You can then witness unknown techniques in order to beat him in the future. You may post Replay ID on this forum when you are really lost.

One of SF6's best features are Replay and Training mode. If you are playing alone, get yourself to be your own mentor.

[xxx RIP xxx]

If you were to lose 10 times in a row just switch to fighting CPU at the lowest level to vent out all your anger before jumping back to casual or ranked match and lose the next 10 games. Rinse and repeat and eventually you will be immune to losing non stop.

[Eddragon]

Learning fighting games is broken up into 4 parts ,at least for me. Learning fundamentals, your character, matchups, game specific mechanics and tech.

You can play any character and if you got some fundamentals you can win in low tiers with just a few buttons and no combos. When your new I suggest focusing on this. This is anti airs. Learning to block. Throws. Basic footsies, basic oki and meaties.

Learning characters. I suggest you start by going into training mode with the frame meter on. Press all your buttons and see the frame data. See the distance of the buttons. See the push back on block. Identify you anti airs, best poke, fastest button, and best low. Get a general feel for the character. After that either go to combo trails or watch combo guides on youtube. Practice the most basic combos first than move onto more later. This is more effective just a little bit everyday rather than alot in one day. Play matches and improve over time.

Match up knowledge can be learned in a few ways. You can play a bunch of matches and try stuff over time, you can use training mode to set up specific situations, or you can watch videos.

Specific game mechanics or "tech" is really great to know particularly when you have a handle on the other stuff. This is best described as some specific knowledge that ups your game. Delay grab tech, buffer into drive rush in neutral, shimmies. This is more of a knowledge check then anything else and its worth looking into when you have the rest worked out.

Fundamentals will improve if you learn what they are and play while thinking. Many players have very bad fundamentals in low ranks because they dont know how to play without skipping neutral. As a result they always jump or spam drive impact and get rolled by anyone who knows what they are doing. Play with a brain and even if you get cheesed at first you will eventually improve significantly

. Learning a character works best with focused practice. You dont need to spend tons of time in lab, but look some things up and spend about ten minutes a day for a few days. Make sure to play actual matches to improve.

The other stuff is mostly just memorization and is not as important to a new fighting game player but do try to remember match up stuff. Stuff like, Ken is punishable if you block his medium kick target combo.

BTW feel free to add me if you wanna play some sets and I can give feedback best I can. Im no master fighting game player or anything, but would certainly say I know my way around them I suppose.