Capcom should just delete Zangief from the game.

[Mu'Ammar of Carthus]

Capcom should just delete him from the game, it's clear they have a deep seated hatred him and still put him in the game for some reason.

Dude has nothing. He's plus on nothing, he can just wait for the other character to combo him at the slightest attack he does that gets DI'ed because he can't DI back, or block, or 3 hit fast enough.

This game's just a bad joke on you when you play Gief

[Wildzide]

Mu'Ammar of Carthus の投稿を引用：

Capcom should just delete him from the game, it's clear they have a deep seated hatred him and still put him in the game for some reason.

Dude has nothing. He's plus on nothing, he can just wait for the other character to combo him at the slightest attack he does that gets DI'ed because he can't DI back, or block, or 3 hit fast enough.

This game's just a bad joke on you when you play Gief

Zangief is the character with the most normals that are plus on block. Most characters only have one plus on block normal but Zangief has crouching jab, standing jab and headbutt; you can threaten SPD from any of these. You are right that he gets bullied by DI since his long range pokes are not special cancelable but standing heavy is a good answer since the armor will eat the DI and give you a hard knockdown, you can also poke with standing light kick it has great range and is cancelable. While i agree that he is one if not the weakest character in the game he is still far stronger than he was on SFV, I'm currently Diamond 2 with him, you can definitely make the character work, don't give up.

[Grampire]

I've always hated Gief and I actually hope they keep him weak.

Balancing grapplers isn't easy - he's basically a set of bad tools and with one ultra nice grab that you can never land.

If he has good tools then he's not really a grappler.

If he can land the grab easily then he ruins the game.

Keep him in no-mans land IMO - it's better for the game.

[Observer]

C1REX-PL の投稿を引用：

Observer の投稿を引用：

3. they produced a game for money grabbing

100% of games are made for money.

yeah buy yourself a premium nonsense

[C1REX]

Grampire の投稿を引用：

I've always hated Gief and I actually hope they keep him weak.

Balancing grapplers isn't easy - he's basically a set of bad tools and with one ultra nice grab that you can never land.

If he has good tools then he's not really a grappler.

If he can land the grab easily then he ruins the game.

Keep him in no-mans land IMO - it's better for the game.

Tekken has King and Armor King and both are extremely popular and not a total pushovers with good tools. Maybe it's not easy but it's possible and they could try if they wanted to.

[level3]

Grampire の投稿を引用：

If he can land the grab easily then he ruins the game.

Right. Landing a grab ruins giefs game, positioning him in the friendzone forever

[C1REX]

Observer の投稿を引用：

C1REX-PL の投稿を引用：

100% of games are made for money.

yeah buy yourself a premium nonsense

SF6 is the only recent fighting game I haven't bought premium edition.

[Observer]

Wildzide の投稿を引用：

Mu'Ammar of Carthus の投稿を引用：

Capcom should just delete him from the game, it's clear they have a deep seated hatred him and still put him in the game for some reason.

Dude has nothing. He's plus on nothing, he can just wait for the other character to combo him at the slightest attack he does that gets DI'ed because he can't DI back, or block, or 3 hit fast enough.

This game's just a bad joke on you when you play Gief

Zangief is the character with the most normals that are plus on block. Most characters only have one plus on block normal but Zangief has crouching jab, standing jab and headbutt; you can threaten SPD from any of these. You are right that he gets bullied by DI since his long range pokes are not special cancelable but standing heavy is a good answer since the armor will eat the DI and give you a hard knockdown, you can also poke with standing light kick it has great range and is cancelable. While i agree that he is one if not the weakest character in the game he is still far stronger than he was on SFV, I'm currently Diamond 2 with him, you can definitely make the character work, don't give up.

OP dont listen to that, but if you like to torture yourself go on continue playing the worst character

[Swampbunches]

I see Geifs absolutely shredding in this game.

[C1REX]

Swampbunches の投稿を引用：

I see Geifs absolutely shredding in this game.

I see decent Gief players switching from their mains in Diamonds and struggling in platinum.
It's not Gief domination.

[Grampire]

C1REX-PL の投稿を引用：

Grampire の投稿を引用：

I've always hated Gief and I actually hope they keep him weak.

Balancing grapplers isn't easy - he's basically a set of bad tools and with one ultra nice grab that you can never land.

If he has good tools then he's not really a grappler.

If he can land the grab easily then he ruins the game.

Keep him in no-mans land IMO - it's better for the game.

Tekken has King and Armor King and both are extremely popular and not a total pushovers with good tools. Maybe it's not easy but it's possible and they could try if they wanted to.

I'm not a Tekken expert by any means but it seems like grapplers can be stronger in a game like that since positioning is much more complex and zoning basically doesnt exist.

Positioning in SF is much simpler, which makes it much harder for a grappler to get in.

They'd have to basically rework SF down to its core.

[C1REX]

Grampire の投稿を引用：

I'm not a Tekken expert by any means but it seems like grapplers can be stronger in a game like that since positioning is much more complex and zoning basically doesnt exist.

Positioning in SF is much simpler, which makes it much harder for a grappler to get in.

They'd have to basically rework SF down to its core.

I don't think it's about positioning. It's more that King and Armor King can be easily played without using throws at all and still feeling capable. It's like Honda having a decently strong command throw. Or Marisa. Sure, they are not grapplers but if their throws would be slightly stronger they could be ones while not being weak.

On the other hand fast characters with throw loops feel more like grapplers sometimes. They do as much damage throwing as named grapplers.